Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

been thinking on it now zovel has been banished the life/death cycle balance is outta wack all the souls in arendweld need to be reborn and the legion/army of the light has killed off most of the places they can go back to are we going find out how to make baby world souls?

so world souls as far as we know are titans who are beings of order so we would have to go to zereth ordo

[Syegfryed]

Because it doesn't follow rules. Whether you can predict it is completely irrelevant.

Of course not. Those forces are more easily predictable because the actors have known motivations and generally less moving parts. Weather is way more chaotic. But we can still predict it with a fair amount of accuracy.

in short, the void have motivations, they follow a system of infinite truths to achieve their ultimate goal, which is at least based on the void lords, turn the existence into void, in my eyes, i see lawful evil, sorry

[maplesyrupgl]

We know the announcement is on the 19th, but do we know what time it is? Probably morning Pacific Time?

[Varx]

Can we go back to giving me shit about my 101% certainty on tinkers in one week?

Can't believe people really get upset about applying the new racial options on random NPCs.

You know they did the same to other races right.

[Jodmos]

We know the announcement is on the 19th, but do we know what time it is? Probably morning Pacific Time?

I'm expecting it it to be at 18:00 UK

[maplesyrupgl]

I'm expecting it it to be at 18:00 UK

Yeah that's what I was thinking too...

Guess I'll be setting an alarm for 3am *cries in Australia*

[Revamp Man]

Can we go back to giving me shit about my 101% certainty on tinkers in one week?

Can't believe people really get upset about applying the new racial options on random NPCs.

You know they did the same to other races right.

the people who are upset are like the people who were upset about m+ players swapping gear.....victim complex

[Chain Chungus]

yep, here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/SenecaTobac...92210254184185

its a product brochure of Seneca Tobacco (zoom at the table).

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ok, we now know the designer likes coffee and cigarettes (or cigars, or…). now lets take a close look at all designers of Blizz (lol, we can’t). if we could get 100% proof, that none of the wow team designers smokes, we can 100% proof its fake.

It could also be someone who works at Seneca, not Blizzard, and this is just another fake leak. Or works for a company that makes Seneca's promotional materials. Why would a Blizzard employee be making Seneca product brochures? You can see there is a whole stack of them there, a customer would only receive one in the mail not a whole stack.

The name is a real leak, but this is probably just someone that threw this together at work in a couple hours after reading about the expansion name leak.

[JDBlou]

It could also be someone who works at Seneca, not Blizzard, and this is just another fake leak. Or works for a company that makes Seneca's promotional materials. Why would a Blizzard employee be making Seneca product brochures? You can see there is a whole stack of them there, a customer would only receive one in the mail not a whole stack.

The name is a real leak, but this is probably just someone that threw this together at work in a couple hours after reading about the expansion name leak.

Or it's not a blizzard employee at all, and Blizzard, like most companies, outsource their printing of promotional materials, and another of the printer's clients is Seneca? Seems like the simplest answer. The CYMK in the bottom of the poster also points towards the photo being taken in a printing office.

[maplesyrupgl]

The name is a real leak, but this is probably just someone that threw this together at work in a couple hours after reading about the expansion name leak.

The artwork is very high quality. It looks like Blizzard official art quality, whoever did it is very skilled. And it definitely would have taken longer than a couple of hours.

[therumblings]

The name is a real leak, but this is probably just someone that threw this together at work in a couple hours after reading about the expansion name leak.

The image was posted on twitter/reddit a few hours before the name got leaked

[Izalla]

It could also be someone who works at Seneca, not Blizzard, and this is just another fake leak. Or works for a company that makes Seneca's promotional materials. Why would a Blizzard employee be making Seneca product brochures? You can see there is a whole stack of them there, a customer would only receive one in the mail not a whole stack.

The name is a real leak, but this is probably just someone that threw this together at work in a couple hours after reading about the expansion name leak.

The picture was actually posted before the name leaked (though to be fair, it is not impossible someone else saw the name first and didn't draw attention to it). I would still say there isn't really a reason to not think it is legit at this point since it is just an image of Alexstrasza and doesn't imply anything outlandish.

[therumblings]

though to be fair, it is not impossible someone else saw the name first and didn't draw attention to it

That would be a legendary, I almost hope that is what happened lol

[Izalla]

The artwork is very high quality. It looks like Blizzard official art quality, whoever did it is very skilled. And it definitely would have taken longer than a couple of hours.

It also resembles a specific Blizz artist's style to the point that it was instantly recognizable as such and comparison images of his other art are spot on.

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That would be a legendary, I almost hope that is what happened lol

Still would beg the question where they got the image from to throw that together haha

[therumblings]

It also resembles a specific Blizz artist's style to the point that it was instantly recognizable as such and comparison images of his other art are spot on.

Yeah, the name + image are practically confirmed, the only thing we lack is details.

[Bsirk]

Yeah that's what I was thinking too...

Guess I'll be setting an alarm for 3am *cries in Australia*

Or....you could just sleep all night and wake up with a whole lot of news to read and watch. lol

[Chain Chungus]

Or it's not a blizzard employee at all, and Blizzard, like most companies, outsource their printing of promotional materials, and another of the printer's clients is Seneca? Seems like the simplest answer. The CYMK in the bottom of the poster also points towards the photo being taken in a printing office.

True, this is also a possibility, but it still doesn't discount the scenario I presented either.

The artwork is very high quality. It looks like Blizzard official art quality, whoever did it is very skilled. And it definitely would have taken longer than a couple of hours.

I could swear I've seen that dragon before. Isn't that the avatar Teriz has been using? He is banned so I can't tell. Alex could be recycled too.

The image was posted on twitter/reddit a few hours before the name got leaked

It's possible that it was known before those posts and just took some time to work it's way through the internet. Maybe twitter/reddit weren't the first to know about it?

The picture was actually posted before the name leaked (though to be fair, it is not impossible someone else saw the name first and didn't draw attention to it). I would still say there isn't really a reason to not think it is legit at this point since it is just an image of Alexstrasza and doesn't imply anything outlandish.

I just remember how sure everyone was about the Empire of Dragons logo. It could be real, but perfect timing doesn't guarantee it to be either. If anything, perfect timing is actually a little suspicious imo.

[therumblings]

If anything, perfect timing is actually a little suspicious imo.

Which is why it's probably an intentional leak like the Bolvar cinematic image, to generate hype.

I could swear I've seen that dragon before. Isn't that the avatar Teriz has been using? He is banned so I can't tell. Alex could be recycled too.

No one has been able to find the image anywhere else on the internet so it's either real or someone actually painted that themselves after discovering the real site leak without telling anyone.

[Izalla]

True, this is also a possibility, but it still doesn't discount the scenario I presented either.



I could swear I've seen that dragon before. Isn't that the avatar Teriz has been using? He is banned so I can't tell. Alex could be recycled too.



It's possible that it was known before those posts and just took some time to work it's way through the internet. Maybe twitter/reddit weren't the first to know about it?



I just remember how sure everyone was about the Empire of Dragons logo. It could be real, but perfect timing doesn't guarantee it to be either. If anything, perfect timing is actually a little suspicious imo.

The art hasn't been found anywhere else yet and people have searched for it. The style matches Bayard Wu very well (which is probably why the dragon looks so familiar, it looks like an art piece of his of Alex). And the EoD logo had a lot of pushback because all it had going for it was looking fancy and impressive but nothing else to support it. It's not a sure thing like the name being found in the actual WoW website, but it is way more likely than not that the Alexstrasza image is real.

(also Teriz is using an image of Wrathion I believe)

[therumblings]

I bet there are Blizzard folk browsing these forums getting a good laugh out of people discussing whether or not this stuff is real