Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[therumblings]

Class skins are a much desired and perfectly fine way of including warcraft archetypes that wouldn't be turned into classes otherwise.

Priestesses of the Elune
Shadow Hunters
Dark Rangers
Blademasters
etc.

Archetypes that are too specific to add as its own thing, or its themes are already being partially included by the existing classes.

I agree that some people are shoving in archetypes that don't belong, like tinkers or dragonsworn, etc. but some people doing that shouldn't discredit the whole concept.

I agree with this, Warlock being turned into a Necromancer for example is too far for me.

[Nymrohd]

I agree that some people are shoving in archetypes that don't belong, like tinkers or dragonsworn, etc. but some people doing that shouldn't discredit the whole concept.

Honestly while I'd prefer to have proper classes for some archetypes (like tinkers) I'd rather have a class skin with far less development time in the next expansion or two than wait for another decade. I am not going to come back to WoW in my 50s to play a gnome tinker.

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I agree with this, Warlock being turned into a Necromancer for example is too far for me.

It is probably the most extreme of the class skins that could still actually work (mostly because destro to frost, affliction to disease and demo to undead really tracks to what we would expect from a Necromancer). Beyond that, see above. A class skin seems so much easier so we might actually get it.

[Syegfryed]

Class skins are a much desired and perfectly fine way of including warcraft archetypes that wouldn't be turned into classes otherwise.

Priestesses of the Elune
Shadow Hunters
Dark Rangers
Blademasters
etc.

Archetypes that are too specific to add as its own thing, or its themes are already being partially included by the existing classes.

I agree that some people are shoving in archetypes that don't belong, like tinkers or dragonsworn, etc. but some people doing that shouldn't discredit the whole concept.

Add sunwalker and other paladins as well so we don't just have human light paladins. We can have more diverse druid forms and skills, with worgens going more for a drust thematic with wolf mutated forms to show their lycantrhopy.

Wardens for night elves, blue fire/arcane spells for mages.

Honestly, there is so much stuff to work and explore here, you can make "racial class skins" and general class skin, like changing the frost from death knights for fire like bolvar. hellfire style.

[Nymrohd]

Add sunwalker and other paladins as well so we don't just have human light paladins. We can have more diverse druid forms and skills, with worgens going more for a drust thematic with wolf mutated forms to show their lycantrhopy.

Wardens for night elves, blue fire/arcane spells for mages.

Honestly, there is so much stuff to work and explore here, you can make "racial class skins" and general class skin, like changing the frost from death knights for fire like bolvar. hellfire style.

You could even do things that cross multiple classes. For instance make it so every spec's main CD gets the Avatar size modifier for Dwarves.

[therumblings]

I'd also like to see them do racial class skins with new combinations, like Mechagnome druid would be cool.

[Syegfryed]

You could even do things that cross multiple classes. For instance make it so every spec's main CD gets the Avatar size modifier for Dwarves.

dwarves already have that no? stoneskin is basically that if i recall.

[Wangming]

I'd also like to see them do racial class skins with new combinations, like Mechagnome druid would be cool.

I feel most casters only work for single race.

Consider polymorph for example. Like I know you can get other variations, but by default it transforms people into sheep. Like how does that make sense for any race that isn't human?

Why are tidesages using ghost wolf form?

Why are harvest witches using night elf druid forms?

And why are all warlocks regardless of race riding horses? Yes I know those are demons that look like horses, but it's still dumb. Give me a freaking Dreadkodo.

[Nymrohd]

dwarves already have that no? stoneskin is basically that if i recall.

I don't think Stoneform includes a size modifier and it is a defensive ability. I'm more talking about them tapping into their titanforged heritage for offense to turn massive. It exists for Dwarf Warriors through the Avatar talent but it could effectively be there for every class if a dwarf wanted it; allow a dwarf palading to also turn larger when they pop wings or even a dwarf fire mage to grow large when they use Combustion.

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I'd also like to see them do racial class skins with new combinations, like Mechagnome druid would be cool.

But that wouldn't really be a druid. You could reskin feral or guardian to make a mechagnome a transformer for sure. And I would allow a player to do it in a TTRPG in a heartbeat. We'd also swap their spell list though so they don't have all the plant spells that come with being a druid. In wow it'd end up being a poor match. Also does that archetype even exist in WoW? It sounds cool but it doesn't exist that I know.

[Luck4]

I feel like this week is gonna fly by, Leak season started in like December/January for a lot of us, look how far we’ve made it.

Yeah, this was the longest leak season ever. The absence of a Blizzcon/Blizzconline that worked as a deadline really stretched things out.

[Wangming]

Yeah, this was the longest leak season ever. The absence of a Blizzcon/Blizzconline that worked as a deadline really stretched things out.

Plus we all really wanted something that isn't Shadowlands.

[ExiHext]

Plus we all really wanted something that isn't Shadowlands.

Speak for yourself. I like SL. The only gripe was the cadence of content which would have been the same with any other expac because of the last two years.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah, this was the longest leak season ever. The absence of a Blizzcon/Blizzconline that worked as a deadline really stretched things out.

I just hope the announcement doesn't end up with much of the playerbase wondering "That's it?" which was a common reaction after the feature list of Shadowlands.

[Syegfryed]

Speak for yourself. I like SL. The only gripe was the cadence of content which would have been the same with any other expac because of the last two years.

for him and for most of the playerbase mind you.

[Nymrohd]

for him and for most of the playerbase mind you.

Or what's left of it. Alliance WM on I often struggle to get a group for Antros ON RESET DAY.

[Santandame]

Catastrophy420 noticeably less active than usual during the week building up to the announcement - coincidence? I think not.

[Lady Atia]

I wake up and suddenly there is a pleasant silence in this thread again - wohoo!

What are the chances for one last big ptr build with potential teasers today? Or do you guys think they will keep the ptr small 'till next week?

[Mferna]

I just hope the announcement doesn't end up with much of the playerbase wondering "That's it?" which was a common reaction after the feature list of Shadowlands.

I remember being so disappointed there wasn’t a new class, but I was hopeful for SL.

…. And then it was horrible. But do we even know how blizz is announcing this? Is there a livestream or something?? Haven’t seen any info regarding the announcement. I hope it’s not just like a 10 min vid like how they announced 9.2, that would be destructive

[Nymrohd]

I remember being so disappointed there wasn’t a new class, but I was hopeful for SL.

…. And then it was horrible. But do we even know how blizz is announcing this? Is there a livestream or something?? Haven’t seen any info regarding the announcement. I hope it’s not just like a 10 min vid like how they announced 9.2, that would be destructive

I wonder if they are afraid to even do a livestream.

[Raetary]

…. And then it was horrible. But do we even know how blizz is announcing this? Is there a livestream or something?? Haven’t seen any info regarding the announcement. I hope it’s not just like a 10 min vid like how they announced 9.2, that would be destructive

We know nothing.
Not when, not how.

Which means they'll either release that info this week, or we are getting a pre-recorded preview later in the day. (Which would be a hella depressing way to reveal an expansion)

[Luck4]

I just hope the announcement doesn't end up with much of the playerbase wondering "That's it?" which was a common reaction after the feature list of Shadowlands.

The problem was that Blizzard haven't delivered things that people expected like a new class or a good feature to solve community problems like dead realms.

Blizzard learned nothing from BFA and simply released new zones, dungeons, raids, and systems as if everything were just fine.

I'm sure if Shadowlands had a new class, less Sylvanas screentime, fewer systems, and Cross-faction from the beginning, the game would've been in a fair better health state now.