1. #39761
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    The R and the of are diffferent too
    All this time, we've been playing VVoofrld Warcraft.
    Or Woofrld Warcraft, possibly.
    It became clear that it wasn’t realistic to try to get the audience back to being more hardcore, as it had been in the past. -- Tom Chilton

  2. #39762
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Wasn't it explicitly stated that that Murozond was specifically from a different timeline? So no, he doesn't have to turn into him.

    I'm already exhausted so I hope Endtime is just the end of it.
    Nozdormu outright said he'll turn into Murozond in time.

    At last it has come to pass. The moment of my demise. The loop is closed. My future self will cause no more harm.

    Still, in time, I will... fall to madness. And you, heroes... will vanquish me. The cycle will repeat. So it goes.

  3. #39763
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Wasn't it explicitly stated that that Murozond was specifically from a different timeline? So no, he doesn't have to turn into him.

    I'm already exhausted so I hope Endtime is just the end of it.
    Nozzy specifically states in End time, after we defeat Muro, that he will turn to madness in time and that we'll have to deal with him.

    I mean Tazavesh showed us the infinites are still active as well.

  4. #39764
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Two posts below that, I said exactly the same thing.
    Fair, I hadn't read that far just yet.
    Twas brillig

  5. #39765
    The “World” part is entirely different actually, all the letters have been touched up.

    Could just be a modernization, but maybe they are trying to reboot the brand?

  6. #39766
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypester View Post
    Apologies aren’t a thing in corporate culture, especially not in the West.
    I guess so. Oh well, if 10.0 is going to be at least as good as Legion, I'm more than happy to accept that as their form of apology. Just like how Legion was an apology for WoD.

  7. #39767
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypester View Post
    The “World” part is entirely different actually, all the letters have been touched up.

    Could just be a modernization, but maybe they are trying to reboot the brand?
    Looks like both to me!

  8. #39768
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Nozdormu outright said he'll turn into Murozond in time.
    The fact that they exist at all shows that nothing is set in stone, temporally speaking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    Nozzy specifically states in End time, after we defeat Muro, that he will turn to madness in time and that we'll have to deal with him.

    I mean Tazavesh showed us the infinites are still active as well.
    Working as a pirate? That seems to scream "unemployed" to me.

    Nozdormu said that but then he got rid of his immortality. Why is that not a factor? Seems like Dragon Soul circumvented End Times, because that was the entire point.

    We'll probably get more Infinite time-travel content but it's essentially a side-quest. Their entire existence in the larger narrative is frustrating at worst, an excuse to have fun in particular moments in warcraft history at best.
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  9. #39769
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypester View Post
    The “World” part is entirely different actually, all the letters have been touched up.

    Could just be a modernization, but maybe they are trying to reboot the brand?
    Just trying to make it look better on mobile screens

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    The "World logo" revamp means ... World revamp !

  11. #39771
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Working as a pirate? That seems to scream "unemployed" to me.

    Nozdormu said that but then he got rid of his immortality. Why is that not a factor? Seems like Dragon Soul circumvented End Times, because that was the entire point.
    He's was the aspect of time....

    He knows what his future holds. If he says that's it's gonna happen then it's gonna happen since he has the magic domain to prove it.

    If turning Deathwing to fairy dust would prevent the death amanthul showed him then he'd know it.

    The only thing that the defeat of DW did time wise was that that event was locked in time and can never be tampered with.

    Doesn't mean nozzy isn't corruptible.

    Plus we need some one to allow Yrel to come to our timeline.

    Blizz ain't gonna groom her to be a villian without a mcguffin to bring her to us.

  12. #39772
    I think it would be cool to have a Murozond time where we fight Murozond in multiple points in time. So he'd be shifting through time and each phase could be a different room so to speak. He could keep the same abilities and the environment change could provide the rest.

    I also have to say I love the original encounter design from End Times. It would likely be very problematic for a raid end boss (since it would depend entirely on stacking the classes whose CDs best match the CD reset timer) but could still be fun.

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    18:00 CEST means 19:00 for me, which is perfect. I was worried they would stream it at midnight or something.

  14. #39774
    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    He's was the aspect of time....

    He knows what his future holds. If he says that's it's gonna happen then it's gonna happen since he has the magic domain to prove it.

    If turning Deathwing to fairy dust would prevent the death amanthul showed him then he'd know it.

    The only thing that the defeat of DW did time wise was that that event was locked in time and can never be tampered with.

    Doesn't mean nozzy isn't corruptible.

    Plus we need some one to allow Yrel to come to our timeline.

    Blizz ain't gonna groom her to be a villian without a mcguffin to bring her to us.
    There is always the Eye of Aman'thul. You don't need Murozond when you have that.

  15. #39775
    Quote Originally Posted by KNTRPRTS View Post
    One thing I've maintained (and I believe has been proven true) is that the Murozond we encountered back in Cataclysm was not the future Murozond of our timeline. The timeline we went into during End Time wasn't even that Murozond's "home" timeline either. Since it was established that the Murozond we encountered was "outside of time" at that point it is technically unclear which timeline he hailed from.
    There's only a single Nozdormu across all timelines. It is our Nozdormu/Murozond because that's the only one that exists.

  16. #39776
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I think it would be cool to have a Murozond time where we fight Murozond in multiple points in time. So he'd be shifting through time and each phase could be a different room so to speak. He could keep the same abilities and the environment change could provide the rest.

    I also have to say I love the original encounter design from End Times. It would likely be very problematic for a raid end boss (since it would depend entirely on stacking the classes whose CDs best match the CD reset timer) but could still be fun.
    The way is see it, the final patch of Dragonflight will have us dealing with a shit ton of AU characters, all summond by Muro and the infinites.

    Like the climax of the war crimes novel.

    Watch the raid have fight made.uo of AU heros from hearthstone. Like the knights of the frozen throne or light Lord Ragnaros.

    All as a way to stop the void.


    Then we beat him and he summons the final attempt. Yrel and the lightbound.

    Boom 11.0.

    God I'm fucking unstoppable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    There is always the Eye of Aman'thul. You don't need Murozond when you have that.
    Who's gonna use the eye to bring her back? No one outside the horde knows what happened on Draenor.

    No one has anything to gain. Outside of a wacked out Murozond.

  17. #39777
    I guess I'll go into work an hour earlier that day so I can watch it come 5 pm

  18. #39778
    Quote Originally Posted by Snorlax View Post
    Yeah it's literally the worst possible time for EST. If you have even halfway close to a normal job then you're fucked. Honestly dissapointed by the timing choice.
    Eh, is it? It'd be noon for EST, lunchtime generally.

    At least, it is for me (EST, lunch at work from 11:30 to 12:30). So I'll be sitting relatively pretty. Unless its more than half an hour anyway.

  19. #39779
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Eh, is it? It'd be noon for EST, lunchtime generally.

    At least, it is for me (EST, lunch at work from 11:30 to 12:30). So I'll be sitting relatively pretty. Unless its more than half an hour anyway.
    I don't see why it couldn't have been a Saturday.

    Like why a fucking Tuesday.

    Or at least Friday since they're off I guess.

  20. #39780
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    The R and the of are diffferent too
    All of the letters are different. The kerning on the one used for WarCraft is also slightly different (check the 'ft').

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