Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

I don't think we'll get the feature panel; I think they'll save that one for another day.

I think that not only we'll get a features trailer, but they'll send out alpha invites as soon as the stream ends.

9.2 has been done for a while now, it's about time for a playable build. I know 9.2.5 is still in testing but the alpha of a new expansion usually goes live at the same time an expansion's final patch is still on the ptr.

[Sondrelk]

I kind of do want Murozond to come back, but I'm certain he doesn't exist right now. I think they dragons are going to find a way to restore their special magic dragon soul, but that makes Murozond exist again.


They did explain it, and their explanation didn't help. Multiple Timelines are different shards of your soul? So Garrosh is getting punished because just one (1) version of himself was evil???? Doesn't that mean we're all fucked because some iteration of us in the infinite timelines is a genocidal maniac?

The answer is that you are not supposed to think about it. Every time Blizzard tries to explain WoD and alternate timelines they make a hasty explanation that pokes more holes than it fills. Let us afterall not forget how Blizzard tried to explain the Legion in WoD by saying that it existed as one entity across all timelines when that would be patently absurd.

[Vakir]

Giving anything less than the amount of info you'd get from a day 1 overview from Blizzcon feels like a PR mistake.

Think of how hard people pivoted from "doomed" to "GOOD EXPANSION???" between the What's Next and Deep Dive panel for SL...whether it ended up being good or not, a lot of context was missing from just the first 45 minutes, and that was from a relatively small expansion.

We waited almost half a year longer than usual and the competition regularly puts out 4 hour long producer breakdowns. I get Blizzard is highly corporate, probably very image conscious right now for understandable reasons, and likely has lots of changing pains currently, but they can afford to not be so fucking lazy.

[Revamp Man]

This is something that stopping me about writing more. Back in the time before legion announcement noone believes me too.
I think that the information about race and class that will be closely related to each other (as well as dh + faction selection) is enough to stimulate the imagination for the next few days.

Yes, its close af - and yes, im (as a player) shocked too. Specially that BFA/SL feels like not so very polished products..

This information is available since yesterday, there aren't many details, but let's say few "key" ones. You can treat them however you like.
Anyway - on April 19, everyone will be able to preorder right after the presentation and expect the premiere in autumn 2022.

Also "feniela" have 100% right in what he wroted above and on previous 2-3 pages.

so if it hits in november where does season 4 come in at??

[TheFirstOnes]

So...what if the Embrace occurs during Dragonflight?

[Kiivar86]

I kind of do want Murozond to come back, but I'm certain he doesn't exist right now. I think they dragons are going to find a way to restore their special magic dragon soul, but that makes Murozond exist again.

Fairly safe bet yeah.

One of Il'gynoth's whispers from Ny'alotha could point to something like that:

Five lanterns now darkened. The flames they seek will light the Masters' way.

Of course, its an Old God(-related) whisper so who the hell knows. But I always pegged that as the Dragons. Five flights, depowered, seeking their flames again.

So...what if the Embrace occurs during Dragonflight?

It happens once every 430 years, so...not likely.

[Soulwind]

Five months in REVERSE

PREPATCH IN MARCH BABYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TIME TRAVEL EXPANSION

Oh, it may be in march indeed.

Just not 2022...

[Sondrelk]

Giving anything less than the amount of info you'd get from a day 1 overview from Blizzcon feels like a PR mistake.

Think of how hard people pivoted from "doomed" to "GOOD EXPANSION???" between the What's Next and Deep Dive panel for SL...whether it ended up being good or not, a lot of context was missing from just the first 45 minutes, and that was from a relatively small expansion.

We waited almost half a year longer than usual and the competition regularly puts out 4 hour long producer breakdowns. I get Blizzard is highly corporate, probably very image conscious right now for understandable reasons, and likely has lots of changing pains currently, but they can afford to not be so fucking lazy.

I think this is Blizzard best opportunity to do more than just the usual panels, instead making longer individual panels, but spread out over a longer period of time.
It would stymie the drought, and would make each panel more worthwhile, instead of what we usual have where each panel might only have a tiny amount of actual info.

[Blayze]

This is a TERRIBLE idea to present features and not explain them. "Warfronts? Looks PvP" etc. Zero reason for them to not prep it. It's really not hard also, it's just a basic of xpac reveal.

I'm just going off their decision to timegate their three announcements across multiple months; I can't see them giving us any amount of actual information in one go, given they did that.

[Raetary]

It happens once every 430 years, so...not likely.

If Elune gets involved though? She could force an Embrace.

[Nymrohd]

It happens once every 430 years, so...not likely.

Oh what if we need Elune to force an Embrace? We had one during Cataclysm.

[Sondrelk]

so if it hits in november where does season 4 come in at??

3-4 months before launch somewhere in August maybe?
Totally possible that Season 4 has less demanding tasks to do for the rewards, or possibly not even having rewards at all.

[Revamp Man]

So...what if the Embrace occurs during Dragonflight?

guaranteed

they have to make it a thing because they are going to make more aspects

[Kiivar86]

If Elune gets involved though? She could force an Embrace.

That is possible I suppose.

Again reminds me of how Elune is interconnected with damn near everything. Its kinda weird.

Oh what if we need Elune to force an Embrace? We had one during Cataclysm.

The Cataclysm one was the natural one but yeah as above could be possible if she forces it somehow.

Kind of amuses me to think of what it could cause on the planet if it happens heh.

[Revamp Man]

3-4 months before launch somewhere in August maybe?
Totally possible that Season 4 has less demanding tasks to do for the rewards, or possibly not even having rewards at all.

i mean a couple mounts
they have to rebalance SoD bosses because apparently dom sockets arent going to be a thing

im ok with a short season because its kinda what i always wanted at the end of an expansion kinda like a greatest hits

[Scaleface]

so if it hits in november where does season 4 come in at??

Dunno man, there is no any info about shadowlands - s4 looks like canceled (or was bait to check players reaction) if they really want to push it to november.
Also, it's true that wotlk classic will be just 2 months before - if nothing will change (for now its scheduled for 09.22) - and it's weird af.

Another thing is that there is no name of "iconic villain" of 10.x but only one who (for me) fit the theme and place of expansion is Galakrond.
Someone wroted before about dragonsworn etc - no, class name is totally out of my mind. In first moment when I read that i thought "hello? we have mages already!". It's similiar to one spell name of arcane mage :P

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

So out of curiosity has anyone confirmed interviews after this reveal or are they just gonna drop a trailer and ghost for 4 months?

[Sondrelk]

i mean a couple mounts
they have to rebalance SoD bosses because apparently dom sockets arent going to be a thing

im ok with a short season because its kinda what i always wanted at the end of an expansion kinda like a greatest hits

Tier sets are definitely a thing though. And if they balance a bit on the lower end then the lack of Domination gear probably wouldn't be an issue at all.

And the thing with no rewards is that you would only need a longer season if you have rewards that require effort to get. Remove the rewards and the only reason left to have a longer season is to let everyone experience it, which isn't all that important given its old content anyways.

[Nymrohd]

Or we could go back in time to a previous Embrace.

[Veya30]

I don't think we'll get the feature panel; I think they'll save that one for another day.

I'm expecting them to go back to a bare bones expansion after all the borrowed power complaints.

- Level to 70
- New Talent row at 70
- Gear up thru Mythic + / Raid / PvP
- Only way to get gear is thru the above
- 1 new rep per zone that'll have a few daily quests to do; no player power.
- Flying purchasable with gold upon reaching max level.
- 3 new raids; 1 with 8 bosses and 2 single boss raids that'll have a hard mode type activation like Sartharion.

World quests will be removed due to being unpopular, just a few dailies to advance reps in each zone. No new expansion feature like Garrisons/Order Halls/Islands/Covs. No more Emissaries or Callings.