Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Makabreska]

I'm just going off their decision to timegate their three announcements across multiple months; I can't see them giving us any amount of actual information in one go, given they did that.

???

They did spread three different game announcements. Why would they divide one of them? They revealed new HS expac trailer and then explained it's features, w/o any waiting. Again, it's a bad idea. You want to control the narrative about expansion by immediately explaining features and not let speculations ran rampant.

[keygy]

I'm expecting them to go back to a bare bones expansion after all the borrowed power complaints.

- Level to 70
- New Talent row at 70
- Gear up thru Mythic + / Raid / PvP
- Only way to get gear is thru the above
- 1 new rep per zone that'll have a few daily quests to do; no player power.
- Flying purchasable with gold upon reaching max level.
- 3 new raids; 1 with 8 bosses and 2 single boss raids that'll have a hard mode type activation like Sartharion.

World quests will be removed due to being unpopular, just a few dailies to advance reps in each zone. No new expansion feature like Garrisons/Order Halls/Islands/Covs. No more Emissaries or Callings.

and people gonna leave more fast than never, you can do a "MoP" expansion right now, people want content, things to do, i do not understand the complain with WQ.

You can't design a expansion like if we are in 2010, that idiotic, because is not gonna work, you need to create content outside of endgame where people can have fun if they dont want to do pvp, m+ or raid.

[NikolaiShade]

I'm expecting them to go back to a bare bones expansion after all the borrowed power complaints.

- Level to 70
- New Talent row at 70
- Gear up thru Mythic + / Raid / PvP
- Only way to get gear is thru the above
- 1 new rep per zone that'll have a few daily quests to do; no player power.
- Flying purchasable with gold upon reaching max level.
- 3 new raids; 1 with 8 bosses and 2 single boss raids that'll have a hard mode type activation like Sartharion.

World quests will be removed due to being unpopular, just a few dailies to advance reps in each zone. No new expansion feature like Garrisons/Order Halls/Islands/Covs. No more Emissaries or Callings.

...maybe a little too much barebone?

[Deln]

I'm expecting them to go back to a bare bones expansion after all the borrowed power complaints.

- Level to 70
- New Talent row at 70
- Gear up thru Mythic + / Raid / PvP
- 1 new rep per zone that'll have a few daily quests to do; no player power.
- Flying purchasable with gold upon reaching max level.
- 3 new raids; 1 with 8 bosses and 2 single boss raids that'll have a hard mode type activation like Sartharion.

World quests will be removed due to being unpopular, just a few dailies to advance reps in each zone. No new expansion feature like Garrisons/Order Halls/Islands/Covs. No more Emissaries or Callings.

I think you are going to see a new system like artifact weapons, and a new class.

Also if they are getting rid of a type of repeatable content I say dailys need to go away. WQ are so much better, you head to an area marked on your map, the quest pops up, and when you finish you don't have to travel anywhere for a turn in, and it can be varied. Way more efficient for repeatable content.

[JDBlou]

I'm expecting them to go back to a bare bones expansion after all the borrowed power complaints.

- Level to 70
- New Talent row at 70
- Gear up thru Mythic + / Raid / PvP
- Only way to get gear is thru the above
- 1 new rep per zone that'll have a few daily quests to do; no player power.
- Flying purchasable with gold upon reaching max level.
- 3 new raids; 1 with 8 bosses and 2 single boss raids that'll have a hard mode type activation like Sartharion.

World quests will be removed due to being unpopular, just a few dailies to advance reps in each zone. No new expansion feature like Garrisons/Order Halls/Islands/Covs. No more Emissaries or Callings.

That sounds dreadful and completely out of sync with modern WoW

[Fahrad Wagner]

Why are we discussing "Embrace" and "August"? Sorry but I'm so lost, and too busy to go through all the pages I have missed hehe

[kiruz]

I saw like 3 system designers from WoW team hyping tweet reveal, so I guess we can expect some new system-type-thing in new expansion. But i guess that's expected either way. I hope they improve and iterate over group finder feature more.

[Raetary]

Why are we discussing "Embrace" and "August"? Sorry but I'm so lost, and too busy to go through all the pages I have missed hehe

Blizzard used "august" (the adjective) to describe the next adventure in their reveal post, and the Aspects were empowered during an Embrace (When Azeroths moons touch in the sky) so we'll likely need another one of those to empower them again.

[Kiivar86]

Why are we discussing "Embrace" and "August"? Sorry but I'm so lost, and too busy to go through all the pages I have missed hehe

The Embrace is that celestial event that has to happen to empower an aspect or something along those lines. If the dragonflights return to power or want to, they'll likely need it.

August is used in the announcement of the preview. Its an odd choice of words.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Hmmm interesting. That could be the link between Elune and Dragonflight, fascinating really

[Revamp Man]

Dunno man, there is no any info about shadowlands - s4 looks like canceled (or was bait to check players reaction) if they really want to push it to november.
Also, it's true that wotlk classic will be just 2 months before - if nothing will change (for now its scheduled for 09.22) - and it's weird af.

Another thing is that there is no name of "iconic villain" of 10.x but only one who (for me) fit the theme and place of expansion is Galakrond.
Someone wroted before about dragonsworn etc - no, class name is totally out of my mind. In first moment when I read that i thought "hello? we have mages already!". It's similiar to one spell name of arcane mage :P

It’s not cancelled because it’s still being tested

[Scaleface]

It’s not cancelled because it’s still being tested

But if they wont change date of 10x and seriously want to release it in november... s3 would be short, and s4 should start when ? May? June? 6 months is really really close and will fade really fast since today.

[Revamp Man]

Tier sets are definitely a thing though. And if they balance a bit on the lower end then the lack of Domination gear probably wouldn't be an issue at all.

And the thing with no rewards is that you would only need a longer season if you have rewards that require effort to get. Remove the rewards and the only reason left to have a longer season is to let everyone experience it, which isn't all that important given its old content anyways.

I’m not disagreeing but after the interview with Morgan I’m thinking maybe this season was designed to be shorter because of the insane catch up I guess but season 4 can be shorter so my thoughts maybe
6 month then 4 month because again season 4 is just the “hey don’t get bored” season with newer versions of OP mega dungeon gear

Not saying it’s not possible but don’t get too invested in that date

[Marlamin]

Plot twist, what Blizz calls SL Season 4 is actually 10.0 Season 1 in disguise and they're just getting a headstart on testing with 9.2.5.

Disclaimer: i don't know what a season really means

[Revamp Man]

But if they wont change date of 10x and seriously want to release it in november... s3 would be short, and s4 should start when ? May? June? 6 months is really really close and will fade really fast since today.

Season 4 would be the short one

Again I’m not saying it’s not possible but I don’t see a November release even with prepatch because just looking at what that means for testing that’s barely 7 months

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Plot twist, what Blizz calls SL Season 4 is actually 10.0 Season 1 in disguise and they're just getting a headstart on testing with 9.2.5.

That would be awesome
Like every tier has the mega dungeons added to the regular pool

[Hitei]

Plot twist, what Blizz calls SL Season 4 is actually 10.0 Season 1 in disguise and they're just getting a headstart on testing with 9.2.5.

Disclaimer: i don't know what a season really means

It means you add a bunch of spices to a thing to make it taste better, like a raid opening or pvp ranking starting.

[The Stormbringer]

I mean, it wouldn't be hard to just say "That was Alt Yrel," in this timeline Yrel's parents were on the Justicar instead of the Exodar & is doing Xe'ra's will out in space right now.

Or that we don't really need her to be a villain. She simply set up the ideas that lead to Turalyon or even Calia to be a big light-based villain.

I don't think they'd want to immediately remind people the alternate timeline stuff makes no sense with what we learned in Shadowlands: You can't say every alternate timeline has its own shadowlands when Garrosh didn't die in this timeline, he died in the alt Draenor's timeline. And yet, he's in our Shadowlands.

There is only one Shadowlands. Something something rope made of many threads something.

[Marlamin]

It means you add a bunch of spices to a thing to make it taste better, like a raid opening or pvp ranking starting.

Thanks for the explanation, I think I did that to a steak once.

[Santandame]

I think this is Blizzard best opportunity to do more than just the usual panels, instead making longer individual panels, but spread out over a longer period of time.
It would stymie the drought, and would make each panel more worthwhile, instead of what we usual have where each panel might only have a tiny amount of actual info.

I'm sorry but that's a terrible idea. Only a very, very, very small fraction of players would want that.

Just give us the greater crux of info in one go, as per usual. It will be a really lacking experience to have to wait several weeks for each feature to be explained.

[Raetary]

They should aim for a december release, just to emulate cataclysm.