Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Chickat]

im wondering when the next TW update will come
im assuming 9.2.7 or something with ToT for raiding which will be relatively popular unless they fixed the rune trinket

Did Legion timewalking not just happen? They typically only do 1 TW update per expansion. So the next will likely be sometime between 10.0.5-10.2.5. Assuming they don't make it permanent which they should. You should be able to do anything you want scaled up just like FF14.

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Yes but whenever I see this brought up, anyone who voices this opinion is told they are just bad at the game and they shouldn't be allowed to get any kind of reward if they can't beat the timer (ignoring that no one ever made this about being unable to beat the timer. And even then, who gives a shit if someone takes ages to clear a dungeon you cleared right away? It's like saying a group that only reaches the last raid boss just before the tier ends doesn't deserve the loot that drops. You already got your loot ages ago and moved on, what the heck does it hurt you if little Jimmy Noobington wants to beat his head into a mythic dungeon for hours until he manages to clear it?

Sorry, I'm a bit salty, I hate the timers and they ruined dungeons for me. I got silver challenge mode in Mists only for the mount and I hated every second of it and had zero interest in getting gold despite my group being fully capable of it (they did go on to do it with a different healer who wanted the armour because I hated it too much).

Yep timed content is the scourge of gaming IMO. Althoigh I'm much more okay with prestige items being locked behind a timer. I just don't think gear should be locked behind one.

[huth]

which is is exactly what happens every time here when a new xpac is about to be revealed.

Aka hype. You're trying a bit to hard, there.

[Teriz]

Alex looks like her class got buffed and she’s stepping off the bench ready to parse

I’m honestly hoping the new class is engaging because I’m actually getting bored of monk

If its based off of her HotS incarnation, it should be.

Shouldn't you be changing your username?

[Ersula]

No garrosh doesn’t set a precedent because the only reason he was in the maw was because of denathrius and the jailer interfering

Its not about a precedent, its that it happened at all. Garrosh wasn't the only soul in the maw before the Arbiter broke. Not to mention if a soul can find the right timeline by itself despite not dying on this plane of existence, what's the point of the Kyrians at all.

[therumblings]

I don't know if you've figured this out already, but the person you're responding to accurately stated that 7.0 would be called Legion, bring back Illidan, and introduce the DH class about a week before it happened.

Welcome back Teriz And yeah I figured it out a few pages after

[Ersula]

Biggest thing I could hope for, and I highly doubt it would ever happen just because of the way they develop. I just wish they would drop an actual content roadmap. Something like "10.0 Spring 2023" "Expac release late spring/early summer 2023" "10.1 Fall 23" "10.1.5 Winter 2024" etc. So we had an idea of when to expect new patches and content. It's a pipe dream (also I get it, first world problems) but it would be nice to know.

10.0 will probably be december. Expansion release in January or Feb. That's consistent with their 6-8 month seasons comment: (1 was 8 months. 2 was 8 months. 3 & 4 would be 6 months & go through 10.0 and into the expansion release.)

[Vakir]

I don't know if you've figured this out already, but the person you're responding to accurately stated that 7.0 would be called Legion, bring back Illidan, and introduce the DH class about a week before it happened.

And the person I'M replying to said that the introduction of Demon Hunters would be bad for the game because he was salty his fav wasn't picked.

Maybe the vacation will be permanent eventually.

[therumblings]

And the person I'M replying to said that the introduction of Demon Hunters would be bad for the game because he was salty his fav wasn't picked.

I disagreed with Teriz pretty heavily back then, but I can understand why someone would think that, especially the fans of the old demo lock.

[Vakir]

I disagreed with Teriz pretty heavily back then, but I can understand why someone would think that, especially the fans of the old demo lock.

I would if that was why.

Someone being rightly concerned for the wrong reasons doesn't stop them from being a pestilence.

[Chickat]

I'm hoping for Ybarra. First because Ion is a dick and I hate the smug face he constantly makes. Second, cause as the new director he needs to do something that could possibly be in his job description. Cause so far it's just "sell mythic runs" and "tweet"

Ybarra has nothing to do with WoW though. Hes basically President of blizzard.

[Revamp Man]

Ybarra has nothing to do with WoW though. Hes basically President of blizzard.

He’s currently the hype man

[Teriz]

And the person I'M replying to said that the introduction of Demon Hunters would be bad for the game because he was salty his fav wasn't picked.

Maybe the vacation will be permanent eventually.

Well no, I said it would be bad for the game because it would take concepts from existing classes in order to make the DH worthwhile. I was correct about that. Monks for example were noted for being the most mobile class in the game. Now Demon Hunters are. Brewmasters used to be THE DW Tank in WoW. Now Demon Hunters are, and now Monks can't even attack with their weapons anymore. Imagine my surprise when I first logged into Legion and my Brewmaster could only equip staves. Needless to say, it sucked a lot of fun out of what was then my favorite class and spec.

And then there's what happened to Demonology Warlocks.

So yes, I stand by my statements in regards to the DH, and I always will. I still feel to this day that bringing them into the game was largely a mistake.

BTW, no offense to the people who enjoy playing as them. I just miss my Monk from WoD, just like I'm sure some Warlock players miss their old Demonology spec.

[Revamp Man]

Its not about a precedent, its that it happened at all. Garrosh wasn't the only soul in the maw before the Arbiter broke. Not to mention if a soul can find the right timeline by itself despite not dying on this plane of existence, what's the point of the Kyrians at all.

You said that he established a precedent for a soul going to the maw

I pointed out that he was only there because of corruption

If you quest through revendreth you will see how seriously they took sending souls to the maw even when it was corrupt

Add that to the fact that even after the memories of all those other versions of garrosh were merged with our version of him he was still an orc hitler AND WAS STILL NOT IN THE MAW you have to wonder what the souls did who were sent there by the arbiter and revendreth.

The system of judging souls was broken and that was kinda the story of the expansion but the explanation of how the souls works has nothing to do with it

[Vakir]

So yes, I stand by my statements in regards to the DH, and I always will. I still feel to this day that bringing them into the game was largely a mistake.

We are well aware of the real reason why.

[Revamp Man]

Well no, I said it would be bad for the game because it would take concepts from existing classes in order to make the DH worthwhile. I was correct about that. Monks for example were noted for being the most mobile class in the game. Now Demon Hunters are. Brewmasters used to be THE DW Tank in WoW. Now Demon Hunters are, and now Monks can't even attack with their weapons anymore. Imagine my surprise when I first logged into Legion and my Brewmaster could only equip staves. Needless to say, it sucked a lot of fun out of what was then my favorite class and spec.

And then there's what happened to Demonology Warlocks.

So yes, I stand by my statements in regards to the DH, and I always will. I still feel to this day that bringing them into the game was largely a mistake.

BTW, no offense to the people who enjoy playing as them. I just miss my Monk from WoD, just like I'm sure some Warlock players miss their old Demonology spec.

I mean in Terms of DW and mobility monks are still up there because monk tanks can dw again and with dps monks I still refuse to believe DH is more mobile because roll transcendence and serpent kick

I do miss WoD play style though but that has nothing to do with DH

[Ferlion]

Dunno man, there is no any info about shadowlands - s4 looks like canceled (or was bait to check players reaction) if they really want to push it to november.
Also, it's true that wotlk classic will be just 2 months before - if nothing will change (for now its scheduled for 09.22) - and it's weird af.

Another thing is that there is no name of "iconic villain" of 10.x but only one who (for me) fit the theme and place of expansion is Galakrond.
Someone wroted before about dragonsworn etc - no, class name is totally out of my mind. In first moment when I read that i thought "hello? we have mages already!". It's similiar to one spell name of arcane mage :P

Arcane mage specifically.

With Dragons, that's either Prismatic something or Evocation.

[Revamp Man]

We are well aware of the real reason why.

That’s a really hateful boner you have

[delphiskye]

ptr build incoming its offline again people

[Teriz]

We are well aware of the real reason why.

The reason people to this day are wary of new classes entering the game is because of what happened when DHs entered the game. Outside of “balance”, people typically say “I don’t want another class taking abilities from other classes”, or “They could barely come up with two specs for the last class….”

Are we really going to look back at what happened to demonology players in 6.2 as anything other than a screw job?

If you notice, we’re in a situation currently where a class other than the Tinker has a high chance of entering the game. I’m perfectly fine with it in this situation because this potential class won’t bulldoze through existing classes.

[Vakir]

That’s a really hateful boner you have

What can I say, it's all very tiresome but gets the blood pumping nonetheless.

I'm going to call it as I see it regardless of the false and overwrought justifications given.