Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Imotbh]

I think it would be odd to add a Dragonsworn/Knight class without a melee DPS spec.

It doesn't have to be so IMO. If they added a Dragonsworn (whatever the name) class and it followed your suggestions, this could work as :

- Tank spec = Black dragonflight follower
- Healing spec = Emerald/Ruby dragonflight follower
- Ranged DPS = Bronze/Azure dragonflight follower

In this case, only the tank spec would be a melee obviously and it could fit the fantasy of a Dragon Knight wearing 2H weapons (polearm/2H mace/etc.). I think dragons themselves are mostly casters when they are in human form except for Deathwing which wore a 2H Mace and thus would have been a melee.

How about the Timewalkers?
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Timewalkers

Could be mail wearing
With a sword and board spec for tanking called Warden
With a healing spec called Weavers
With a ranged dps spec called Watcher

TBF Chronomancer or Timewalker are really close and one could just be a spec of the other if a "Time" class was added

[Wangming]

Ybarra has nothing to do with WoW though. Hes basically President of blizzard.

*Memory goes back to when the CEO of Square Enix came on stage cosplaying as a Blue Mage and ordered Yoshi-P to reveal the new job and the expansion release date* Ah yes, you are right. My mistake.

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That's how I understood it at first, but rereading it confused me.

It is probably worded awkwardly so that the leak can be "true" in various different scenarios. You know, like the old "If you cross the river you will bring down a great empire" prophecy.

[SniperCT]

*Memory goes back to when the CEO of Square Enix came on stage cosplaying as a Blue Mage and ordered Yoshi-P to reveal the new job and the expansion release date* Ah yes, you are right. My mistake.

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It is probably worded awkwardly so that the leak can be "true" in various different scenarios. You know, like the old "If you cross the river you will bring down a great empire" prophecy.

That CEO does that kind of thing all the time, it's actually kind of fun to watch when he shows up on stage at Fanfest.

[Edoll]

Arcane mages have one iconic ability - Arcane Explosion. It’s Explosion of Dragons, folks!

[Wangming]

How about the Timewalkers?
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Timewalkers

Could be mail wearing
With a sword and board spec for tanking called Warden
With a healing spec called Weavers
With a ranged dps spec called Watcher

I would be okay with it. We need more healing and ranged specs.

[therumblings]

Arcane mages have one iconic ability - Arcane Explosion. It’s Explosion of Dragons, folks!

Absolutely Brilliant We've discovered the answer

[Wangming]

That CEO does that kind of thing all the time, it's actually kind of fun to watch when he shows up on stage at Fanfest.

Well he has to be a chill dude if he also gave the okay to be turned into a NieR Automate boss.

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Arcane mages have one iconic ability - Arcane Explosion. It’s Explosion of Dragons, folks!

Where the fuck is the like button?

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Anyway, I think I got it. The new class is Evoker. It definitely gives the "huh, but we have mages" vibe, and Evocation is an Arcane Mage ability. Just an Arcana Mage ability. And it isn't even totally unknown to WoW.

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Evoker

Haha, daddy hit the jackpot.

[Scaleface]

With Dragons, that's either Prismatic something or Evocation.

Maybe @Scaleface can tell me if I'm Hot or Cold?

You're both very very close (with naming and neutral type of race)

Haha, daddy hit the jackpot.

[delphiskye]

How about the Timewalkers?
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Timewalkers

Could be mail wearing
With a sword and board spec for tanking called Warden
With a healing spec called Weavers
With a ranged dps spec called Watcher

thats actually possible these are in game at moment at the timeless isle

[Wangming]

I love it that this smile can totally be understood both as "nice job my friend" and "can't wait for this clown to realize how wrong he is". Anyroad, time to tackle the race as well.

[Ferlion]

You're both very very close (with naming and neutral type of race)

Assuming it's an Evoker, going off the top of my head, most mobs we've seen with the Evoker title have been fire and frost and shadow. I think Dwarves had nature damage.

Of course, using Dungeons and Dragons, Evocation magic is more or less just pulling on energy and creating something from an unknown energy source. Could be waved as a class of the First Ones, with some cosmic bruhaha..

Should be interesting to see how close everyone gets

[Civciv]

Can this forum handle that much thirst?

I don't think so

[Nymrohd]

It could be completely off field and be a spellblade. Gish (arcane warriors) are probably one of the most popular archetypes in fantasy fiction (they really are the Mary Sues of RPGs). While several classes have specs that sort of play like a gish, none actually meet the fantasy because they are very far thematically (enhancement may be the closest but it is a completely different theme)
Spellblades of many types already exist in game, from Aluriel to the Silvermoon Spellbreakers (and even Kael'thas himself since his most iconic fight was a melee one).

And dragons are THE melee magic users of fantasy.

[Wangming]

Assuming it's an Evoker, going off the top of my head, most mobs we've seen with the Evoker title have been fire and frost and shadow. I think Dwarves had nature damage.

Of course, using Dungeons and Dragons, Evocation magic is more or less just pulling on energy and creating something from an unknown energy source. Could be waved as a class of the First Ones, with some cosmic bruhaha..

Should be interesting to see how close everyone gets

Since we have Defias Evokers as well, I doubt they would wield First One magic. But they DO have ties to dragons as Onyxia was the behind-the-scenes force for them.

The range of Evokers is pretty wide. Defias, Twilight Hammer Cultists, Scarlet Crusaders, Drust witches and skeletons, Arakkoa, Loads of orcs, Iron Dwarves.

It kinda gives me the vibes of drawing out elemental powers without being a shaman. Maybe the race is somehow related to the elements instead of being draconic.

[Raetary]

It kinda gives me the vibes of drawing out elemental powers without being a shaman. Maybe the race is somehow related to the elements instead of being draconic.

Or, you are just evoking the powers of each Dragonflight.

[Nymrohd]

Since we have Defias Evokers as well, I doubt they would wield First One magic. But they DO have ties to dragons as Onyxia was the behind-the-scenes force for them.

The range of Evokers is pretty wide. Defias, Twilight Hammer Cultists, Scarlet Crusaders, Drust witches and skeletons, Arakkoa, Loads of orcs, Iron Dwarves.

It kinda gives me the vibes of drawing out elemental powers without being a shaman. Maybe the race is somehow related to the elements instead of being draconic.

I will assume you are joking anyway but how would you ever distinguish this from mages? You can distinguish it from Destruction, Balance and Elemental because it thematically would be tied to a very different looking class but how would it not feel like a mage?

[Mferna]

You're both very very close (with naming and neutral type of race)

Chronomancer? Enlightened? Incanter?

[Raetary]

So, it can be:

Incanter
Evoker
Chronomancer/Timewalker/Chronoshifter
Spellblade/Mage hunter (i hope its neither of those, enough with melee classes and 'hunter' archetypes)
Prismatic Knight (ala D&D)
Exploder of Dragons

[Wangming]

I will assume you are joking anyway but how would you ever distinguish this from mages? You can distinguish it from Destruction, Balance and Elemental because it thematically would be tied to a very different looking class but how would it not feel like a mage?

I would let people whose job is literally to figure this out, to figure it out. Anyway since the job is meant to make you feel "isn't this just mage?" it is kinda meant to be similar.
But to answer your question, mages only really use fire and ice. And a little bit of water. Emphasis on little. Evoker could have a more balanced use of the elements.

[therumblings]

If I had to guess, it's probably some drakonid humanoid neutral race, and a class that is either an evoker or something non-dragon sounding but has a spec for each flight, because I can't possibly imagine they would add a class during a dragon expansion and it wouldn't be heavily dragon themed.