Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

I guess you could also turn it into a melee/spellblade type of spec, but I don't think it fits the fantasy perfectly either. Perhaps they can do something cool and unique with it.

Yeah, see the problem I have with that is if you give it a melee DPS spec, you've pretty much made the perfect class. Why would anyone roll anything other than a dragon class when this one class does everything? This is why Druids are so popular, because they're so versatile. Take that versatility and crank it up a notch, and you have the reason why something like this needs to be dialed back and limited.

BTW, I'm only playing Devil's advocate because I would roll a Nightborne and play the fuck out of a blue dragon-based spellblade spec.

[therumblings]

Maybe they can do both and have the spec alternate between melee and ranged abilities?

I can see it potentially working like survival hunter with their ranged cooldown, or maybe involve going into dragonform mid combat or something, flying around, etc. A lot of options on the table.

[ercarp]

Maybe they can do both and have the spec alternate between melee and ranged abilities?

This is what I want to see the most. Like Red Mages in FF14.

[Yunravel]

This is what I want to see the most. Like Red Mages in FF14.

Same here, red mage/spell blade would be a bless for me, it's my favorite

[Nymrohd]

I can't see them not adding a dps, but it would be kind of hilarious if they added a tank/healer 2 spec class

I honestly don't think that would be THAT problematic. Healer only is problematic because healers usually are painful to level in their own spec. Tanks are not since at least MoP. Most of the tank specs are exceptional for open world and solo content. Sure your ST might be poor but you never die and your AoE is often equal or even better than what most dps can manage, especially solo (since you can pull much more than they ever can).

[Wangming]

This is what I want to see the most. Like Red Mages in FF14.

But only if it is just as classy.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah, see the problem I have with that is if you give it a melee DPS spec, you've pretty much made the perfect class. Why would anyone roll anything other than a dragon class when this one class does everything? This is why Druids are so popular, because they're so versatile. Take that versatility and crank it up a notch, and you have the reason why something like this needs to be dialed back and limited.

BTW, I'm only playing Devil's advocate because I would roll a Nightborne and play the fuck out of a blue dragon-based spellblade spec.

On one hand my answer would be that many people would struggle to abandon their mains because they may well be playing those classes for two decades, having over a hundred exalted reps, done all quests, developed much of the expac specific content with them.

ON the other hand, even though I am a diehard paladin main, if we got a cool dragon class I would be VERY tempted to switch. Heck I'd even redo the past xpac grinds to get my new main to the same level of completion.

[Teriz]

They may, or may not, cause that would mean another melee class, unless we have 4 specs, which i deem like "dream scenario" not "best scenario'. Going for one melee and one ranged dps, one healer and one tank.

They maybe could do 5 specs, for each dragonflight, and have two ranged and one melee dps:

Black = Tank(or melee DPS)
Blue = Ranged DPS
Bronze = Ranged DPS (or the tank with rewind time ability)
Green = Healer
Red = Ranged DPS

But this is "No fucking way scenario"

Well, this take me back in time of how we discussed what class would be in shadowlands omegaLUL

No, you would still have a RDPS spec.

Black- Tanking: https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-gb/heroes/deathwing/
Red- Healing: https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-gb/heroes/alexstrasza/
Yellow- RDPS: https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-gb/heroes/chromie/

The stupid thing about all of this is that Blizzard already has a skeleton of a class right there.

[Yus atath]

This may sounds crazy idk, but i think the new race will use the skeleton of the dreanei race as a base. Imo i see some similarities with Drakonids. With the draenei legs, tails and horns, it made sense to me. You know, just like the vulpera race has the goblin skeleton as a base.

So this new Drakonid-like race will be the main inhabitants of the Dragen Isles. They specialize in evoking powers of certain dragonaspects to use in battle, which is going to be the new majestic class.

[Teriz]

On one hand my answer would be that many people would struggle to abandon their mains because they may well be playing those classes for two decades, having over a hundred exalted reps, done all quests, developed much of the expac specific content with them.

ON the other hand, even though I am a diehard paladin main, if we got a cool dragon class I would be VERY tempted to switch. Heck I'd even redo the past xpac grinds to get my new main to the same level of completion.

That's what I'm saying. What keeps Druid in check is that not everyone wants to look at a Bear's ass while they're tanking, or be a giant Space bird when doing RDPS. However, you take all the strengths of a Druid class and you give the player MORE spec options and the ability to be a human or any elf they want and it's a wrap. You would have a class so overbearing (and awesome) that it actually harms the game.

[Baedril]

This may sounds crazy idk, but i think the new race will use the skeleton of the dreanei race as a base. Imo i see some similarities with Drakonids. With the draenei legs, tails and horns, it made sense to me. You know, just like the vulpera race has the goblin skeleton as a base.

So this new Drakonid-like race will be the main inhabitants of the Dragen Isles. They specialize in evoking powers of certain dragonaspects to use in battle.

I can definitely see this for the males, but if this is the new race then I cannot wait to see how they'll manage to sex-ify female Drakonids and somehow make them less than half the width of the males. Lizards don't have tits, blizz!

[therumblings]

I'm wondering if the Scaleface leaks have to do with it being announced outside of a Blizzcon? Legion and Dragonflight are the only two expansions announced outside of a Blizzcon. Coincidence? or am I just going crazy from leak starvation?

[Raetary]

Another thought: instead of a spec for every dragonflight, they could simply make 3 specs (tank, heal, DPS) and skin them based on the flight, following the much speculated class-skin concept.

It'd be pretty easy to recolor a lot of abilities, or add different shaders, or even complete animation changes for some. If blue dragons appearances get a bit magey, so what? Not a huge deal, a lot of paladin and priest spells cover similar ground, same with warlock and demon hunter, it just requires some creativity from blizzards end, which historically, isn't too much to ask from them artistically.

This would certainly solve the issue with Reds and Greens being too similar.
Have red be the base and have a green flight skin for it.

and the blue/bronze dps spec can have a brone/blue skin.

[Varodoc]

We don't talk about that because there isn't much to discuss about it. Like besides a few: "Oh yaaay, another fucking Windrunner" - sighs, there isn't that much to discuss. Theory crafting on zones, classes and races carries this thread a lot better.

For years Alliance players have complained about a literal Zoomer leading these thousands years old beings, and now that the mistake has been fixed, you don't care?

[SniperCT]

For years Alliance players have complained about a literal Zoomer leading these thousands years old beings, and now that the mistake has been fixed, you don't care?

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

[Yus atath]

I can definitely see this for the males, but if this is the new race then I cannot wait to see how they'll manage to sex-ify female Drakonids and somehow make them less than half the width of the males. Lizards don't have tits, blizz!

I said Drakonid-LIKE, not literal Drakonid as a playable race

[therumblings]

Lizards don't have tits, blizz!

They do now

[Varodoc]

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

Everyone complained about 40 years old Varian giving war lectures to 10,000 years old Tyrande who fought in the War of the Ancients, but now finally the leader of the Alliance is thousands of years old (since he was granted immortality by Xe'ra and we know that time flowed differently in the Nether, so it's been many centuries in the Nether as opposed to decades on Azeroth), and is a veteran of the largest war in the Cosmos. I personally consider the Alliance fixed now. All is as it should be.

[Nymrohd]

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

When has the High King taken a decision other than a military one?

[Raetary]

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

Don't engage, its not worth it.