Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Baedril]

This may sounds crazy idk, but i think the new race will use the skeleton of the dreanei race as a base. Imo i see some similarities with Drakonids. With the draenei legs, tails and horns, it made sense to me. You know, just like the vulpera race has the goblin skeleton as a base.

So this new Drakonid-like race will be the main inhabitants of the Dragen Isles. They specialize in evoking powers of certain dragonaspects to use in battle.

I can definitely see this for the males, but if this is the new race then I cannot wait to see how they'll manage to sex-ify female Drakonids and somehow make them less than half the width of the males. Lizards don't have tits, blizz!

[therumblings]

I'm wondering if the Scaleface leaks have to do with it being announced outside of a Blizzcon? Legion and Dragonflight are the only two expansions announced outside of a Blizzcon. Coincidence? or am I just going crazy from leak starvation?

[Raetary]

Another thought: instead of a spec for every dragonflight, they could simply make 3 specs (tank, heal, DPS) and skin them based on the flight, following the much speculated class-skin concept.

It'd be pretty easy to recolor a lot of abilities, or add different shaders, or even complete animation changes for some. If blue dragons appearances get a bit magey, so what? Not a huge deal, a lot of paladin and priest spells cover similar ground, same with warlock and demon hunter, it just requires some creativity from blizzards end, which historically, isn't too much to ask from them artistically.

This would certainly solve the issue with Reds and Greens being too similar.
Have red be the base and have a green flight skin for it.

and the blue/bronze dps spec can have a brone/blue skin.

[Varodoc]

We don't talk about that because there isn't much to discuss about it. Like besides a few: "Oh yaaay, another fucking Windrunner" - sighs, there isn't that much to discuss. Theory crafting on zones, classes and races carries this thread a lot better.

For years Alliance players have complained about a literal Zoomer leading these thousands years old beings, and now that the mistake has been fixed, you don't care?

[SniperCT]

For years Alliance players have complained about a literal Zoomer leading these thousands years old beings, and now that the mistake has been fixed, you don't care?

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

[Yus atath]

I can definitely see this for the males, but if this is the new race then I cannot wait to see how they'll manage to sex-ify female Drakonids and somehow make them less than half the width of the males. Lizards don't have tits, blizz!

I said Drakonid-LIKE, not literal Drakonid as a playable race

[therumblings]

Lizards don't have tits, blizz!

They do now

[Varodoc]

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

Everyone complained about 40 years old Varian giving war lectures to 10,000 years old Tyrande who fought in the War of the Ancients, but now finally the leader of the Alliance is thousands of years old (since he was granted immortality by Xe'ra and we know that time flowed differently in the Nether, so it's been many centuries in the Nether as opposed to decades on Azeroth), and is a veteran of the largest war in the Cosmos. I personally consider the Alliance fixed now. All is as it should be.

[Nymrohd]

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

When has the High King taken a decision other than a military one?

[Raetary]

TBF I've personally been complaining about it since VARIAN came back. There should be no central High King in the Alliance. It's not the same structure as the Horde at all.

IIRC originally the high king role was more of a military one, and then blizzard started treating it like a warchief.

It should have always been more of a council type setup, each leader an equal to the other.

Don't engage, its not worth it.

[therumblings]

Don't engage, its not worth it.

We need hunters to teach them to disengage from the trolls

[Varodoc]

When has the High King taken a decision other than a military one?

When has a decision other than a military one ever been taken? This is a game about warfare and times of war, I can't recall the last time a "religious" or "civil" edict was taken at all, by either side.

The point is that Anduin had no business bossing Turalyon and Alleria around so now that he fucked off the Alliance is restored to how it should be. I must say, this was the best possible outcome imaginable from an otherwise terrible expansion.

[Yunravel]

They do now

tfw we'll see cool cutscenes about Wrathion, Alexstrasza turning into dragon and doing amazing stuff, while we are some kind of half fleshed ugly pet race. NPC always get the cool part in WoW I guess.

pepesad

[Raetary]

I don't think any of them need to be a base, you just choose your skin on character creation, and that decides the color of all specs. Green dragons can fight, they can also heal, blue dragons can fight, I don't see why they cant heal. It's just a small workaround in the lore to allow blue/black to heal, but that's not too much of a leap, I don't think.

You pick your flight, your character is of that dragonflight, you can be any of the three (or however many) specs without having to change your dragonflight.

For this Blizzard would have to reskin each ability of every spec 5 times, that is not gonna happen.

[Wangming]

For years Alliance players have complained about a literal Zoomer leading these thousands years old beings, and now that the mistake has been fixed, you don't care?

It's not that we don't care. But "Good riddance Blanduin is gone" can't go on for dozens of pages. There was plenty of discussion of how Turalyon will probably be a more militant leader and some people with a weak grasp on lore even theorized that he would become a Zealot and a raid boss. But that discussion ran its course. Especially since all leaks we have point away from Stormwind.

Here is what we definitely know from Blizzard
System designers are very hyped, so we can expect a cool new system
The UI designer is hyped, so the new system will probably have a cool UI.

Here is what we should not know, but still know.
- The expansion is titled Dragonflight.

There was a leak with micro classes, but supposedly the writer came out and said it is fake. There are two separate cinematic leaks. And now we have Scaleface and his riddles. None of them suggest Turalyon will be relevant at all. Unless the "iconic villain" is him. Turalyon sounds super weird as an antagonist for a Dragon isles expac. Then again so was Garrosh for Mists of Pandaria.

[Teriz]

They do now

The desire of anyone wanting to play as a Drakonid over a Dragon is a great mystery to me.

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Another thought: instead of a spec for every dragonflight, they could simply make 3 specs (tank, heal, DPS) and skin them based on the flight, following the much speculated class-skin concept.

It'd be pretty easy to recolor a lot of abilities, or add different shaders, or even complete animation changes for some. If blue dragons appearances get a bit magey, so what? Not a huge deal, a lot of paladin and priest spells cover similar ground, same with warlock and demon hunter, it just requires some creativity from blizzards end, which historically, isn't too much to ask from them artistically.

The skins could even impact what character customization is available, and your flying form. i.e a blue dragon getting blue hairs, red getting red, green getting green, with different types of horns/colorations/eyes/skin colors available for each one too.

Hey, it's possible. That does seem like a lot of work though just to be completist.

[therumblings]

The desire of anyone wanting to play as a Drakonid over a Dragon is a great mystery to me.

I agree. A dragon class can give you everything a dragon race can but with more flavor and themed abilities. Playing a drakonid hunter or warrior is just boring to me. However I'd love both to be added in the same expansion.

[Syegfryed]

No, you would still have a RDPS spec.

Black- Tanking: https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-gb/heroes/deathwing/
Red- Healing: https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-gb/heroes/alexstrasza/
Yellow- RDPS: https://heroesofthestorm.com/en-gb/heroes/chromie/

The stupid thing about all of this is that Blizzard already has a skeleton of a class right there.

red is more damage dealing, yes, life aspect, whatever, they were the most actively of the dragonflight, actually fighting a lot of fronts, they fit more a ranged DPS green is the healer one.

Plus, this also let out blue, i expect then to either integrate all of then or none.

[Nymrohd]

I agree. A dragon class can give you everything a dragon race can but with more flavor and themed abilities. Playing a drakonid hunter or warrior is just boring to me. However I'd love both to be added in the same expansion.

I mean I get it in a TTRPG when the only cost of adding a race might be two pages in a book. Maybe four with some extra rules and a couple of pictures.
An extra race in WoW just takes far more work than that. Sure someone out there might want to play a draconid warrior instead of an actual dragon. As in, a singular person, someone.

[Yunravel]

I mean I get it in a TTRPG when the only cost of adding a race might be two pages in a book. Maybe four with some extra rules and a couple of pictures.
An extra race in WoW just takes far more work than that. Sure someone out there might want to play a draconid warrior instead of an actual dragon. As in, a singular person, someone.

I mean we've been seeing a huge tons of dragons npc in humanoid form and we kinda got a super cool flavor with that Tarecgosa staff, a race fulfilling this fantasy would honestly be amazing.