Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[8bithamster]

Temporal Shield already does that too.



Considering your "friends" are now saying we can't have a future class because Blizzard could only come up with 2 DH specs, I would say that prediction was rather accurate.

How is it accurate?

We do not have Tinkers and 0 indication the next expansion will have them
We have Demon Hunters despite you saying it will never happen

Please educate us on how your prediction was accurate? I mean, if by accurate you mean "missed the mark so much that it created an alternate reality in which you are right" sure

[ulillillia]

So why are we giving any kind of credit to this Scaleface guy, or that Twitter?

Because they got Demon Hunters and Illidan right?

LMAO

He didn't even get Legion right. He said Gul'dan would see Illidan train his Demon Hunters in a mirror, which makes no sense, cause Illidan was dead at the time.

Illidan, Demon Hunters and Gul'dan were a good guess for the expansion after WoD and you saw it in many speculations, ideas and "leaks".

The leak that got Legion right included Order Halls, Artifact Weapons and Broken Isles as a continent.

[Nightshade711]

People constantly complain about balance issues, recently more than ever before.

Large portions of the fanbase has no idea what balance actually is. Next.

That, and even if they were so imbalanced it was unplayable, it's still time for something actually new to play. It's been 7 years.

You don't win people back by iterating.

Large portions of the playerbase only listen to streamers or the top 1% when it comes to their opinions on balance.

Balance in SL (at least before 9.2, idk I haven’t played it yet) has objectively been the best it’s ever been.
I don’t think I’ve seen a single spec be blacklisted from groups for M+ or raid because everything is viable.

That and they like to parrot “balance classes before adding a new one” just because they don’t want anything new.
(They use that same argument for new races too. “Add more to existing ones”)

PvP is a different story because blizzard doesn’t really balance PvP and PvE separately and until they do PvP will always have a slight imbalance.

[Jodmos]

Might be staggered, or might be the panels they usually have at blizzcon (deep dive, announcement, artwork, systems...) for a new expansion split among multiple streams/recording and released over one or two days. I mean if that is the case then I don't have an issue of it being over 2 days, but if they just start drip feeding us info I wont like it.

Could also be because of all the press and media interviews with info

Those are where the real meat of new info (at least in general) comes from. hopefully they'll release that sort of stuff quickly and then go slower with more detailed info about speciifc things over time.

[ercarp]

With a lack of BlizzCon thats certainly possible. But I think it would be more like the reveal and then moving what would the be the developer panels to other weeks. Which personally I am fine with.

This is what I would bet on as well.

[Marlamin]

Or because alpha is starting the same day (hopium)

While I'd love this as a player, I will quit and retire on the spot as a dev.

[ChairmanKaga]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzpKZXq8Jw

Right up there with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydba1iPAUr8

[Nightshade711]

Or because alpha is starting the same day (hopium)

I’m expecting some form of playable demo to be released with the announcement.
Maybe the new starting zone for a race or class.

[Zankai27]

Large portions of the playerbase only listen to streamers or the top 1% when it comes to their opinions on balance.

Balance in SL (at least before 9.2, idk I haven’t played it yet) has objectively been the best it’s ever been.
I don’t think I’ve seen a single spec be blacklisted from groups for M+ or raid because everything is viable.

That and they like to parrot “balance classes before adding a new one” just because they don’t want anything new.
(They use that same argument for new races too. “Add more to existing ones”)

PvP is a different story because blizzard doesn’t really balance PvP and PvE separately and until they do PvP will always have a slight imbalance.

People who don't want anything new always baffle me.

it's a continuous gaming service. It's going to keep adding new content, and in order to keep people it needs to occasionally add fully new things. Classes, races, what have you. Coupled with the community backlash against powered power, the go-to addition that isn't those two things, they really have to bring something actually new for people to play.

Iterating on the same 12 classes isn't going to bring numbers back up, and even then, we've seen them (last time they had to "break class in case of subs") actually do both, creating a bunch of new content for the existing classes *and* add a new one. And the game is in a worse state playerwise than it was back then, just by looking at raw participation data.

But I guess there are people who eat the same 3 flavors of ice cream and never get tired of it. I'll never, ever understand them, but I'm glad the game is made for both of us.

[Scaleface]

He didn't even get Legion right. He said Gul'dan would see Illidan train his Demon Hunters in a mirror, which makes no sense, cause Illidan was dead at the time.

Illidan, Demon Hunters and Gul'dan were a good guess for the expansion after WoD and you saw it in many speculations, ideas and "leaks".

The leak that got Legion right included Order Halls, Artifact Weapons and Broken Isles as a continent.

As I wroted to You in other thread:

Back in the time, some time before gamescom we saw a cut trailer and a lot of cutscenes, there were a few things described in the forum, and they were literally true. You have a short memory, since you don't remember the cutscenes in which the DH army was trained, and you don't remember the cave in which Guldan looked at the crystal is described - yes, surely everything was "accidentally" hit and made up
Relax, because in DH also no one believed ...

You're too angry, looks like Tinker fan... :P

[ercarp]

I’m expecting some form of playable demo to be released with the announcement.
Maybe the new starting zone for a race or class.

How would that work, I wonder? Since there's no BlizzCon attached to this announcement, would they just make the demo available to everyone? Servers might take a bit of a hit if so.

[Catastrophy349]

How would that work, I wonder? Since there's no BlizzCon attached to this announcement, would they just make the demo available to everyone? Servers might take a bit of a hit if so.

Could be like a Classic WoW stress test.

[draugril]

Can we wrangle one more clue out of you, @Scaleface?

[ulillillia]

You have a short memory, since you don't remember the cutscenes in which the DH army was trained, and you don't remember the cave in which Guldan looked at the crystal is described - yes, surely everything was "accidentally" hit and made up

You are lying. No such scenes exist. Gul'dan discovers Illidan's corpse in the Warden's prison. You're the one suffering from "short memory".




You're full of shit. You were full of shit back then, and you are now.

[Catastrophy349]

Hopes/Wants:
-a longer announcement with a lot of information since we are getting a "later than typical" reveal

Will be just as happy IF:
-the announcement isn't too long, but just enough
-we get several small videos, interviews, or additional info in the hours/days post announcement to "wet people's appetites"

What I am excited for:
-watching/re-watching the announcement video, stream, trailers, cinematics (whatever gets released) over and over again
-Stalking the official expansion website for specific details on any new race(s), class(es), features, etc.

[Scaleface]

You are lying. No such scenes exist. Gul'dan discovers Illidan's corpse in the Warden's prison. You're the one suffering from "short memory".




You're full of shit. You were full of shit back then, and you are now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwO3q2ztfQ

[Lady Atia]

Large portions of the playerbase only listen to streamers or the top 1% when it comes to their opinions on balance.

Balance in SL (at least before 9.2, idk I haven’t played it yet) has objectively been the best it’s ever been.
I don’t think I’ve seen a single spec be blacklisted from groups for M+ or raid because everything is viable.

That and they like to parrot “balance classes before adding a new one” just because they don’t want anything new.
(They use that same argument for new races too. “Add more to existing ones”)

PvP is a different story because blizzard doesn’t really balance PvP and PvE separately and until they do PvP will always have a slight imbalance.

*cries in BM noices*

[Zankai27]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwO3q2ztfQ

I'm not sure what here is actually corroborating your story. Guldan is at no point watching Illidan talk or train to his Demon Hunters, which is what you claimed was seen.

Not to mention all that Argus nonsense in the other post.

[ulillillia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwO3q2ztfQ

That is the Demon Hunter starting area. That is not Gul'dan looking into a mirror. That is not Illidan training his Demon Hunters. That is the Black Temple being invaded and Illidan sending his already trained Demon Hunters on a mission to Mar'dum to get the Sargerite Keystone.

Weird how 7 years ago you were not able to give any of those details, even though you saw the entire thing.

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Not to mention all that Argus nonsense in the other post.

What did he say about Argus?

[Yus atath]

@Scaleface can u give us another hint pleaaasee