Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

I guess you mean half-elves.
sure they could be a thing. Vareesas children are half-elves, and so is Arathor, son of Alleria and Turalyon

huh, makes you wonder why never someone brought up half-elves as an allied race

I mean, they are not a culture or a race, at least not in Warcraft. They are just individuals who integrate with either elf or human society. If we had subraces instead of allied races I could see Half-Elf as a Human subrace and it could still be done as a Human customization; add a few faces that are a bit more angular (I think the actual shape of the face cannot change but you can do miracles with a bit of contouring), add an option to have ears equivalent to short elf ears.

[Wangming]

I hope the new class is a Bard.

To be fair bard really would work well. We only have two physical ranged DPS specs in-game. No caster spec was added since vanilla. Only one healer spec has been added.
Bard with at least two specs (healer and dps) would be just what the game needs.

[Hitei]

Night warrior is also a class blizzard could introduce, after they've shown that you can survive it and it's not limited to night elves.

Did you play a completely different expansion? The whole point was that you can't survive it, no one can and the only answer was convincing several other people to almost die in an elaborate ritual to get rid of the power.

[Ilujee]

I mean, they are not a culture or a race, at least not in Warcraft. They are just individuals who integrate with either elf or human society. If we had subraces instead of allied races I could see Half-Elf as a Human subrace and it could still be done as a Human customization; add a few faces that are a bit more angular (I think the actual shape of the face cannot change but you can do miracles with a bit of contouring), add an option to have ears equivalent to short elf ears.

bright decision yet we already have KulTirans as human related allied race, but add some customisation to current human race would work

[Pheraz]

Did you play a completely different expansion? The whole point was that you can't survive it, no one can and the only answer was convincing several other people to almost die in an elaborate ritual to get rid of the power.

Haha Well, no I didn't. However, she managed to survive and she is still wearing her dress. Also if you chat with her at some point of the phase-party she babbles something about she kept her powers but in a normal way or something. Knowing blizzard, this could be a enough to introduce a new class. Example are void elves, where the void was always something always-corrupting and tadah some random blood elf did the trick and suddenly we end up with a new allied race.

[Revamp Man]

Did something happen in the last days (except the announcement for the stream) or nothing new?

Dude claiming to have given legit leak information for legion is trolling a few dozen people

Truth is he made as many “correct predictions” as I did for 8.3 and 9.0

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Haha Well, no I didn't. However, she managed to survive and she is still wearing her dress. Also if you chat with her at some point of the phase-party she babbles something about she kept her powers but in a normal way or something. Knowing blizzard, this could be a enough to introduce a new class. Example are void elves, where the void was always something always-corrupting and tadah some random blood elf did the trick and suddenly we end up with a new allied race.

That was an idea plenty of people thought about

You split the power of the night warrior between multiple thus creating a demon hunter but instead of powered by an inner demon you get powered up by moon mommy

[KainneAbsolute]

Time magic, tornados, EMP, sunstrike can go to the Invoker...ups I meant Evoker

[Dioporco]

Ah nice another caster.

That is surelly what the game needs another broken class-spec in cloth to do giga billion dmg in + and raid.


We have currently

13 melee specs

2 ranged spec

9 caster specs

6 tank specs

6 healer specs


nice finally we will have the 10th caster spec.

[Civciv]

Yes, we needed a caster. We have enough melee.

[SniperCT]

Mail caster is not out of the range of possibilities.

[Dioporco]

Yes, we needed a caster. We have enough melee.

play a warlock then


we have like 13 melee and 9 caster vs 2 ranged spec (same class ndr) so no ty

[Blayze]

Mail caster is not out of the range of possibilities.

It's Red Mage time.

[ercarp]

It's Red Mage time.

If they manage to pull off a Red Mage type of class that switches between melee and ranged, I would love that.

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April 19th feels like it's still so far away. The wait is getting somehow worse the closer we get.

[Dioporco]

Btw if the class is related to dragons like scale and scale2 said

there are 5 aspects hence 5 specs? or 4 specs if they dont add black.


Black - Tank

Red - Physical DMG

Green - Healer

Bronze - Ranged DMG + Support like a Tinker/Chronomancer/

Blue - Caster

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would add +1 for every role



"but imagine the balance nightmare" are you playing the game atm? is already fucked up since years

[Wangming]

If they manage to pull off a Red Mage type of class that switches between melee and ranged, I would love that.

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April 19th feels like it's still so far away. The wait is getting somehow worse the closer we get.

Do you play any online games that get regular updates? Genshin Impact is set back due to the Shanghai lockdown, but with the Irodori festival and the Chasm, there is a lot of shit to do. For FFXIV 6.1 just dropped tuesday and hoooly shit. With the changes to old dungeons it is actually a good time to roll a fresh character.
Not following Lost Ark, but I'm pretty sure new stuff just came or is coming out soon. Or do what I do and just spend most of the weekend in the movie theatre. Secrets of Dumbledore today, Morbius on saturday.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Do you play any online games that get regular updates? Genshin Impact is set back due to the Shanghai lockdown, but with the Irodori festival and the Chasm, there is a lot of shit to do. For FFXIV 6.1 just dropped tuesday and hoooly shit. With the changes to old dungeons it is actually a good time to roll a fresh character.
Not following Lost Ark, but I'm pretty sure new stuff just came or is coming out soon. Or do what I do and just spend most of the weekend in the movie theatre. Secrets of Dumbledore today, Morbius on saturday.

I hope you’ll enjoy SoD, the press shat on it but wi really enjoyed it, especially Madd’s acting!

[ercarp]

Do you play any online games that get regular updates? Genshin Impact is set back due to the Shanghai lockdown, but with the Irodori festival and the Chasm, there is a lot of shit to do. For FFXIV 6.1 just dropped tuesday and hoooly shit. With the changes to old dungeons it is actually a good time to roll a fresh character.
Not following Lost Ark, but I'm pretty sure new stuff just came or is coming out soon. Or do what I do and just spend most of the weekend in the movie theatre. Secrets of Dumbledore today, Morbius on saturday.

Not really, I mostly just play WoW when I have the time. I am still subbed to FF14 though and I did log in to make my character an Adventurer Plate, but besides that, I didn't do much yet. Haven't really tried Genshin either, but I have it installed.

Is SoD theaters only or is it also releasing online somewhere? I'm kind of sick right now so I don't wanna go to a movie theater to spread whatever it is that I have. Also I'm not as excited for that movie as I would be if Grindelwald was still played by Johnny Depp. I'm sure Mads does great with the role, but I preferred Depp.

[delphiskye]

also movie Everything Everywhere All at Once is out got 97 on rotten tomatoes

[Teriz]

Sylvanas is not a playable class in WoW. The weapon procs / actives are a false equivalency.

But her HotS abilities are in WoW, as are Gazlowe's. You said what works in a MOBA doesn't work in WoW, yet we have multiple examples of MOBA/RTS abilities working just fine in WoW.

Wailing Arrow, Withering Force, Sundering, Crash Lightning, Frostwyrm's Fury, The Hunt, and other abilities are usable by WoW classes.

Death Pact, Death Coil, Unholy Frenzy, Raise Dead, Drunken Haze, Drunken Brawler, Breath of Fire, SEF, Metamorphosis, Hex, Chain Lightning, Feral Spirit, Infernal, Avatar, StarFall, and hundreds of other abilities came from the WC3 RTS, which is where MOBAs come from. In other words, not only can MOBA/RTS abilities work in WoW, MOBA/RTS abilities form the basis of WoW abilities, talents, and passives.

Chromie's entire kit is based around using time traps to freeze enemies, primarily other heroes, in place so that she can connect difficult to aim skillshots that have a nearly 1 second delay before landing. This would not work in WoW. The Sands of Time theme could definitely work, but I suspect it will be a healing spec not a ranged DPS spec.

Why would you apply the exact same tactics in a MMO format that you would a MOBA format? You can give the Bronze spec the exact same abilities, and it would work just fine;

Sand Blast: Fires a missile of sand that deals damage and leaves an echo behind that can mimic the caster's next attack. Echo lasts X seconds.
Dragon's Breath: Launches 3 blasts into the air that lands every x seconds towards the targeted direction.
Time Trap: Places a Time trap at a location that activates after 2 seconds. Enemies caught in the trap are time stopped for 2 seconds. Caster can detonate the trap.
Slowing Sands: Summons a vortex of sand that slows by 10% every X seconds, up to 70%.
Temporal Loop: After 3 seconds, sends a target back to the location where Temporal Loop was originally cast. Caster's abilities recharge more quickly for 3 seconds after casting.
Timewalker: (Passive) Learn talents 2 levels earlier.

Where's the issue? Those abilities fit WoW just fine, and from those 5 abilities you can easily expand the concept.

Here's a good example of a Chronomancer from GW2:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Chronomancer

There's definitely plenty of design space left to explore especially from a support standpoint.

This isn't Guild Wars man.

[Dioporco]

6.1 update is so good that i am already sad for Blizzard.

Literally they fixed even PvP which was one of the let down of FF14 since ever.