Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

???????

What

The final mount before each announcement in the store is connected to the next expansion
In BfA it was the sylverian dreamer
Then for 10.0 he claimed that the steam scale which was released in BfA predicted 10.0 because it was the last mount
He got shown that doesn’t make sense
He then said the anniversary pet predicts 10.0 and tinkers because the steam scale was made by a tinker
Shown that doesn’t make sense
Claims HotS is a requirement for the next classes because they have DH using illidan abilities
Claims dragons are a class and not a race because they can function like worgen

[Grimbold21]

I mean if you guys want a Dragon class sooo bad, but can't get your story together, just have a look at Robin Hobb's work and her Elderlings, which are basically humans that gain extra abilities, have their bodies changed to take up draconic traits, all this from their prolonged exposure and close contact with Dragons.

https://robinhobbelderlings.fandom.com/wiki/Elderlings

[Alexjimithing]

Hey, you are just explaining an expansion that will kill world of warcraft, nice.

If the relatively increasing popularity of other MMOs has taught me anything it’s that players want optional story than you can skip entirely.

FFXIV famously has very little story that is completely optional.

[Dioporco]

Claims dragons are a class and not a race because they can function like worgen

well isnt wrong the no class part due to the fact that dragons are sterile since dragon souls cata

[Ersula]

FFXIV famously has very little story that is completely optional.

You have to put /s if you're going to be sarcastic on this site.

[Revamp Man]

Because multiple abilities in Alexstraza's HotS kit transforms her into a dragon. The class you're talking about can't do that.

I mean you do realize they can change that right??? Like just take the name and not copy the ability. Like they did with illidan abilities

[ahgsfds]

This is why I feel 10.0 will not come with any new systems. The biggest complaint I've been reading on the official forums is players just wanting to hit max level and jump into their preferred content. They don't want to grind for Flying, Soulbinds, Conduits, forced to do story quests, or do Torghast for legendaries. Below is how it’ll be done I think:
- Level cap raised to 70
- Flying purchasable with gold at 70
- World quests / Callings Removed instead we’ll go back to the TBC formula of a few daily quests in each zone to advance rep gains.
- Reps will be for cosmetics only and catch up gear
- PvP will return to templates to prevent crazy damage and one shots and even out the play field
- PvE gearing will be restricted to Dungeons / Raids only, no outdoor gearing path anymore, due to it being very un-popular. Lots of complaints about the Cyper system in ZM.
- Due to being free from World Content creation, we’ll get 16 new dungeons at launch with 3 raids. 12 boss raid and 2 1 boss raids.
- No anima/Azerite/Artifact power grinds at all, those will be removed and not carried forward for Dragonflight.
- Story quests will all be released at once, but have no player power associated with them; no requirements to complete them unless you want to do them.
- Some kind of crafting overall where mats will need to be gathered from raids/m+ to make some BiS gear.

I'd love it to go to old TBC ways with raiding and attunement chains, just making attunements account wide. Loved those epic quest chains in BC rewarding extremly good gear at the end, but it took a few days to complete one. IMHO TBC is the best framework for expansion for PVE content. WotLK was built upon it and came out great.

Second thing I'd love to go back to Ulduar style hard modes instead of current heroic difficulty. One raid less to run weekly to gear up for mythic? Feels so good man. Those are my wishes from perspective of a twat playing since patch 1.7

[Revamp Man]

well isnt wrong the no class part due to the fact that dragons are sterile since dragon souls cata

They are a race
He says they can work like a class
Also black dragons aren’t sterile unless I’m mistaken

[Tartys]

The dragon aspects are mortal now, they aren't god-like beings anymore. Very powerful, yes, but not enough to bless a champion of Azeroth in the same way the light blesses a paladin, they aren't a boundless source of energy.

Is not such a big deal.. expecially if Elune is involved and she need the Aspect power too to bless the new Wolrd Tree... that she let destroy!

[Raetary]

Also black dragons aren’t sterile unless I’m mistaken

All Aspect related dragons are sterile.

[Bathtub Girls]

You're both very very close (with naming and neutral type of race)

So what's the race

[Amstrup]

I mean... yeah, I guess, but I hate how un-Warcraft this mount looks. All of their store mounts look like they belong in a completely different game and this is one of the worst offenders by far.

I think thats a general problem wow has, mounts have become so ridiculous and dosent fit this universe.

[ahgsfds]

So what's the race

It's Magnisworn, Diamond Dwarves. Told ya already.

[Dioporco]

They are a race
He says they can work like a class
Also black dragons aren’t sterile unless I’m mistaken

Should be sterile but also almost extinct due to nearly no more eggs and no more female.



The only "race" i can see are the Dragonkin and the Dragonspawn but as Copeland stated back then

Dragonspawn are are a separate race from dragons. They became dragonspawn thanks to the dragons they served (via intentional alteration or via “unintended side effect of hanging out with dragons”)




Same for the Drakkar

[Uncertain Tea]

This is why I feel 10.0 will not come with any new systems. The biggest complaint I've been reading on the official forums is players just wanting to hit max level and jump into their preferred content. They don't want to grind for Flying, Soulbinds, Conduits, forced to do story quests, or do Torghast for legendaries. Below is how it’ll be done I think:
- Level cap raised to 70
- Flying purchasable with gold at 70
- World quests / Callings Removed instead we’ll go back to the TBC formula of a few daily quests in each zone to advance rep gains.
- Reps will be for cosmetics only and catch up gear
- PvP will return to templates to prevent crazy damage and one shots and even out the play field
- PvE gearing will be restricted to Dungeons / Raids only, no outdoor gearing path anymore, due to it being very un-popular. Lots of complaints about the Cyper system in ZM.
- Due to being free from World Content creation, we’ll get 16 new dungeons at launch with 3 raids. 12 boss raid and 2 1 boss raids.
- No anima/Azerite/Artifact power grinds at all, those will be removed and not carried forward for Dragonflight.
- Story quests will all be released at once, but have no player power associated with them; no requirements to complete them unless you want to do them.
- Some kind of crafting overall where mats will need to be gathered from raids/m+ to make some BiS gear.

Nothing would make me lose interest faster than zero focus on the world. I hate M+ and dungeon junkies, no fucking thank you.

[Zankai27]

Because multiple abilities in Alexstraza's HotS kit transforms her into a dragon. The class you're talking about can't do that.

I’m going to regret this, but nothing is stopping it from doing that, or something similar. If it’s a class that gets their power from the Dragonflights, nothing is stopping it from turning into a facsimile of them for certain abilities.

An Avatar of sorts.

[Dioporco]

It's Magnisworn, Diamond Dwarves. Told ya already.

So i guess that Frostborn Dwarves or Earthen Dwarves are an allied race.

[Nymrohd]

This is why I feel 10.0 will not come with any new systems. The biggest complaint I've been reading on the official forums is players just wanting to hit max level and jump into their preferred content. They don't want to grind for Flying, Soulbinds, Conduits, forced to do story quests, or do Torghast for legendaries. Below is how it’ll be done I think:
- Level cap raised to 70
- Flying purchasable with gold at 70
- World quests / Callings Removed instead we’ll go back to the TBC formula of a few daily quests in each zone to advance rep gains.
- Reps will be for cosmetics only and catch up gear
- PvP will return to templates to prevent crazy damage and one shots and even out the play field
- PvE gearing will be restricted to Dungeons / Raids only, no outdoor gearing path anymore, due to it being very un-popular. Lots of complaints about the Cyper system in ZM.
- Due to being free from World Content creation, we’ll get 16 new dungeons at launch with 3 raids. 12 boss raid and 2 1 boss raids.
- No anima/Azerite/Artifact power grinds at all, those will be removed and not carried forward for Dragonflight.
- Story quests will all be released at once, but have no player power associated with them; no requirements to complete them unless you want to do them.
- Some kind of crafting overall where mats will need to be gathered from raids/m+ to make some BiS gear.

I say we remove the entire world and you can just log in a lobby and wait for your queues to pop. To much hassle having it.

[Bathtub Girls]

It's Magnisworn, Diamond Dwarves. Told ya already.

Did he say that?

[Tartys]

Seed look like an egg...

Ok that we are near Easter Holydays but there are leaves on the top of that.

And just that we have a reasonable connection to a dragon based expansion.

Aspects are there to help the seed of the new world tree. Something happens, queue next expansion big bad.

The link between Shadowlands and the next Dragon expansion can be connected with the Scouge and Northrend: the Dragon shrine are there and we need the Aspects to deal with them expecially if the Scourge wanna revive an old very huge death dragon.

Also could be the perfect moment for a Northrend revamp to reflect what happens and its perfect by now, because there is all we need:
- Titans facilities like we see in the Zovaal cinematics, that hint as well an underground world so we can explore what lies beneath (nerubian)
- Dragon shrine that could be used as portal to theyr Covenant (connected to dragon islands?)
- Huge dragon dead that can be revived / experiment with dragon eggs
- A vacant throne
- Scourge invasion
- San'layn that can used as link to Denathrius
- Elf themed unused outpost in Christalforge forest
- Odyn/Vrykul/Tuskarr

The next expansion could be a mix between old an new zone with content add in form of Seasons.