Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[ahgsfds]

So what's the race

It's Magnisworn, Diamond Dwarves. Told ya already.

[Dioporco]

They are a race
He says they can work like a class
Also black dragons aren’t sterile unless I’m mistaken

Should be sterile but also almost extinct due to nearly no more eggs and no more female.



The only "race" i can see are the Dragonkin and the Dragonspawn but as Copeland stated back then

Dragonspawn are are a separate race from dragons. They became dragonspawn thanks to the dragons they served (via intentional alteration or via “unintended side effect of hanging out with dragons”)




Same for the Drakkar

[Uncertain Tea]

This is why I feel 10.0 will not come with any new systems. The biggest complaint I've been reading on the official forums is players just wanting to hit max level and jump into their preferred content. They don't want to grind for Flying, Soulbinds, Conduits, forced to do story quests, or do Torghast for legendaries. Below is how it’ll be done I think:
- Level cap raised to 70
- Flying purchasable with gold at 70
- World quests / Callings Removed instead we’ll go back to the TBC formula of a few daily quests in each zone to advance rep gains.
- Reps will be for cosmetics only and catch up gear
- PvP will return to templates to prevent crazy damage and one shots and even out the play field
- PvE gearing will be restricted to Dungeons / Raids only, no outdoor gearing path anymore, due to it being very un-popular. Lots of complaints about the Cyper system in ZM.
- Due to being free from World Content creation, we’ll get 16 new dungeons at launch with 3 raids. 12 boss raid and 2 1 boss raids.
- No anima/Azerite/Artifact power grinds at all, those will be removed and not carried forward for Dragonflight.
- Story quests will all be released at once, but have no player power associated with them; no requirements to complete them unless you want to do them.
- Some kind of crafting overall where mats will need to be gathered from raids/m+ to make some BiS gear.

Nothing would make me lose interest faster than zero focus on the world. I hate M+ and dungeon junkies, no fucking thank you.

[Zankai27]

Because multiple abilities in Alexstraza's HotS kit transforms her into a dragon. The class you're talking about can't do that.

I’m going to regret this, but nothing is stopping it from doing that, or something similar. If it’s a class that gets their power from the Dragonflights, nothing is stopping it from turning into a facsimile of them for certain abilities.

An Avatar of sorts.

[Dioporco]

It's Magnisworn, Diamond Dwarves. Told ya already.

So i guess that Frostborn Dwarves or Earthen Dwarves are an allied race.

[Nymrohd]

This is why I feel 10.0 will not come with any new systems. The biggest complaint I've been reading on the official forums is players just wanting to hit max level and jump into their preferred content. They don't want to grind for Flying, Soulbinds, Conduits, forced to do story quests, or do Torghast for legendaries. Below is how it’ll be done I think:
- Level cap raised to 70
- Flying purchasable with gold at 70
- World quests / Callings Removed instead we’ll go back to the TBC formula of a few daily quests in each zone to advance rep gains.
- Reps will be for cosmetics only and catch up gear
- PvP will return to templates to prevent crazy damage and one shots and even out the play field
- PvE gearing will be restricted to Dungeons / Raids only, no outdoor gearing path anymore, due to it being very un-popular. Lots of complaints about the Cyper system in ZM.
- Due to being free from World Content creation, we’ll get 16 new dungeons at launch with 3 raids. 12 boss raid and 2 1 boss raids.
- No anima/Azerite/Artifact power grinds at all, those will be removed and not carried forward for Dragonflight.
- Story quests will all be released at once, but have no player power associated with them; no requirements to complete them unless you want to do them.
- Some kind of crafting overall where mats will need to be gathered from raids/m+ to make some BiS gear.

I say we remove the entire world and you can just log in a lobby and wait for your queues to pop. To much hassle having it.

[Bathtub Girls]

It's Magnisworn, Diamond Dwarves. Told ya already.

Did he say that?

[Tartys]

Seed look like an egg...

Ok that we are near Easter Holydays but there are leaves on the top of that.

And just that we have a reasonable connection to a dragon based expansion.

Aspects are there to help the seed of the new world tree. Something happens, queue next expansion big bad.

The link between Shadowlands and the next Dragon expansion can be connected with the Scouge and Northrend: the Dragon shrine are there and we need the Aspects to deal with them expecially if the Scourge wanna revive an old very huge death dragon.

Also could be the perfect moment for a Northrend revamp to reflect what happens and its perfect by now, because there is all we need:
- Titans facilities like we see in the Zovaal cinematics, that hint as well an underground world so we can explore what lies beneath (nerubian)
- Dragon shrine that could be used as portal to theyr Covenant (connected to dragon islands?)
- Huge dragon dead that can be revived / experiment with dragon eggs
- A vacant throne
- Scourge invasion
- San'layn that can used as link to Denathrius
- Elf themed unused outpost in Christalforge forest
- Odyn/Vrykul/Tuskarr

The next expansion could be a mix between old an new zone with content add in form of Seasons.

[ahgsfds]

Did he say that?

He said
Champion, yer new race are diamond dwarves

[Ersula]

They are a race
He says they can work like a class
Also black dragons aren’t sterile unless I’m mistaken

WoW dragons all have a humanoid form that corresponds with a playable race & otherworldly powers: In that way it would make more sense for them to be a unique class rather than a race. The race you pick in character creation would be your humanoid disguise. They could treat it like a race & let you pick a class AND humanoid form but that would require them designing their own unique character creation ui.

The Blue dragonlings in Legion were recent, implying their not sterile so much as a viable baby is very rare. So much so that they're all in risk of going extinct. The next expansion will probably be about them trying to restore the dragon soul.

[Teriz]

I mean you do realize they can change that right??? Like just take the name and not copy the ability. Like they did with illidan abilities

Sure they COULD change it, but why WOULD they change it? It works perfectly fine as it is, and makes the class something far beyond a typical spellcaster.

[Veya30]

Nothing would make me lose interest faster than zero focus on the world. I hate M+ and dungeon junkies, no fucking thank you.

I'm with you; but if you read a lot of the forum complaints people want systems removed and an easy path to get right into the content they enjoy. I thought the Cypher system was pretty cool; completed to fast, but cool. However, a lot of people hated it and hope that kind of stuff doesn't come into play for 10.0.

[Revamp Man]

WoW dragons all have a humanoid form that corresponds with a playable race & otherworldly powers: In that way it would make more sense for them to be a unique class rather than a race. The race you pick in character creation would be your humanoid disguise. They could treat it like a race & let you pick a class AND humanoid form but that would require them designing their own unique character creation ui.

The Blue dragonlings in Legion were recent, implying their not sterile so much as a viable baby is very rare. So much so that they're all in risk of going extinct. The next expansion will probably be about them trying to restore the dragon soul.

Ah yes I almost forgot about the Worgen class

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Sure they COULD change it, but why WOULD they change it? It works perfectly fine as it is, and makes the class something far beyond a typical spellcaster.

Same reason they changed the illidan abilities

Because it’s not WoW

Also because dragons are a race

[Tiradon]

This is gonna be a looong Easter until Tuesday

[Calfredd]

WoW dragons all have a humanoid form that corresponds with a playable race & otherworldly powers: In that way it would make more sense for them to be a unique class rather than a race. The race you pick in character creation would be your humanoid disguise. They could treat it like a race & let you pick a class AND humanoid form but that would require them designing their own unique character creation ui.

The Blue dragonlings in Legion were recent, implying their not sterile so much as a viable baby is very rare. So much so that they're all in risk of going extinct. The next expansion will probably be about them trying to restore the dragon soul.

Pretty sure those are the last of his whelps ever which is why every one of them that died while we were in Azsuna was considered such a tragic loss.

We need help.

Since the fall of Deathwing, we dragons have lost nearly all our power. To make matters worse, we can no longer bear eggs.

My whelplings are the last of the last.

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=37855/...st-of-the-last

[Bathtub Girls]

He said
Champion, yer new race are diamond dwarves

Then he's probably just making this up. That makes no sense as a race.

[Teriz]

Same reason they changed the illidan abilities

Because it’s not WoW

Also because dragons are a race

They didn't change The Hunt or Metamorphosis. They also took multiple concepts from HotS, including Illidan's mobility.

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I’m going to regret this, but nothing is stopping it from doing that, or something similar. If it’s a class that gets their power from the Dragonflights, nothing is stopping it from turning into a facsimile of them for certain abilities.

An Avatar of sorts.

If they allow them to turn into dragons, they'll simply make them dragons like Wrathion or Alexstraza. There's no class where you learn to turn into a dragon.

[Malorne the White Stag]

Then he's probably just making this up. That makes no sense as a race.

Could mean earthen? Would be weird for a dragon expac though.

[Hypester]

Could mean earthen? Would be weird for a dragon expac though.

They are either trolling or diamond looking Earthern are an AR, which could make sense if the expansion comes with a batch of ARs. Doubt it though.

[Ersula]

Also because dragons are a race

The Mechanics of the game are hardly beholden to semantics. Not to mention treating them as a class would be both easier for the devs & more interesting for the players.

Ah yes I almost forgot about the Worgen class

Yeah I totally forgot about Worgen Blood Elves