Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

We're getting to the point in the thread - once again - where the wish to say that I hope there's no new class, especially a dragon class, is too overwhelming because the debate is immensely annoying.

I'm just at the point where I wish Blizz would leak something again.

Forget to encrypt a model or something, let us talk about that instead.

[TheProphetLord]

I'm just at the point where I wish Blizz would leak something again.

Forget to encrypt a model or something, let us talk about that instead.

We can hope. As we get closer and closer to the actual announcement, things will slip through the net. They always do.

[Harbour]

We're getting to the point in the thread - once again - where the wish to say that I hope there's no new class, especially a dragon class, is too overwhelming because the debate is immensely annoying.

Tbh, i dont want a new class, because imo all heroic classes dont feel the same good way original classes do, and i distate all three of them.

On other hand, class skins and new talent row, or power glyphs addition would have hyped me up immensely. I would play an expansion just to unlock Sunfire Paladin, Moonlight Paladin, Void Paladin skins etc.

[Hitei]

imagine how cringe it sounds, to perform such a ritual, to wield such power. Only to be teabagged by one little human ranger with 2 axes that keeps taunting you during the whole Darkshore battle.

1) That's not even the ritual being talked about. You're literally just whining about unrelated shit

2) I'm not sure what world you live in where "teabagging" someone means losing to them badly while being empowered by two Val'kyr, one of whom ends up dead; and then getting into a rematch where you can't land a single hit and get casually executed.

[Grimbold21]

It's okay to wish for that, but I think hoping for no new class after 6 years (maybe 7 by the time 10.0 releases if they plan to add one) since we had the last one is going to be an unpopular take no matter what. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I myself have a fair share of unpopular takes as well when it comes to WoW.

Oh, either way I don't want a new class.

I've said multiple times I'd rather they work on the existing roster than add a new set of wheels to a truck full of flat tires.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Can't wait for the Press Kit to be accidentally leaked during the weekend or something again.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Can't wait for the Press Kit to be accidentally leaked during the weekend or something again.

They accidentally put the site up for 5 minutes.


Man now I'm remembering the glory days of the week before Blizzcon scanning the trademark databases to see if they trademarked the expansion name.

[Grimbold21]

Ok then ignore it

This is a nonsensical observation, as the incenssant and futile back and forth disrupts the possibility of anything else being spoken about.

Or have we already forgotten the nauseating "chats" about Tinkers? Which, frankly, we're seeing right now again, except with Dragon classes.

[Makabreska]

This is a nonsensical observation, as the incenssant and futile back and forth disrupts the possibility of anything else being spoken about.

Or have we already forgotten the nauseating "chats" about Tinkers? Which, frankly, we're seeing right now again, except with Dragon classes.

This is how this thread always has been. Recurring Void, tinkers, fake leaks and more.

[Eeram]

So what are the odds we plant the new world tree where the sword is right now.
We probably are going to remove the sword at some point an plant the tree there but what will it do to silithus all together

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Oh, either way I don't want a new class.

I've said multiple times I'd rather they work on the existing roster than add a new set of wheels to a truck full of flat tires.

What then would you propose they do to the existing classes?

Serious question! I wouldn't mind no new class if they did something radical like new specs or the ability to customize spells IE giving Night Warrior cosmetics to Warriors.

[Therougetitan]

This is a nonsensical observation, as the incenssant and futile back and forth disrupts the possibility of anything else being spoken about.

Or have we already forgotten the nauseating "chats" about Tinkers? Which, frankly, we're seeing right now again, except with Dragon classes.

That is probably because the expansion is literally called Dragonflight. If you expect to enter an expansion discussion forum where it is confirmed to be dragon related and then be upset that people are talking about a potential dragon themed class then maybe skip on this thread till next expac.

[ercarp]

So what are the odds we plant the new world tree where the sword is right now.
We probably are going to remove the sword at some point an plant the tree there but what will it do to silithus all together

Pretty low, I'd say. We haven't even figured out a way to remove the sword yet.

[Eeram]

Pretty low, I'd say. We haven't even figured out a way to remove the sword yet.

We do get a seed from the winter queen i just cant think of a better way to heal the world then that lol

[Marlamin]

@Marlamin was there already a transmog set in that encrypted stuff? I can't remember what all was associated with it before this was added last night.

Yep! 5 items all belonging to the same transmogset. Those things "added last night" weren't actually added last night but were hotfixes from the 9th which got baked in last night's hotfix build.

Here's a list of how many encrypted rows are covered by the key in all the different database tables:

3x battlepetabilityeffect.db2
1x battlepetabilityturn.db2
3x battlepetspeciesstate.db2
6x battlepetspeciesxability.db2
1x battlepetability.db2
1x battlepetspecies.db2
1x item.db2
1x creature.db2
1x creaturedifficulty.db2
1x uitextureatlas.db2
20x uitextureatlasmember.db2
1x spellvisualkit.db2
1x mount.db2
5x itemmodifiedappearance.db2
5x itemappearance.db2
2x spellmisc.db2
7x objecteffect.db2
13x objecteffectpackageelem.db2
2x spellxspellvisual.db2
1x creaturedisplayinfo.db2
2x spellinterrupts.db2
1x spellcooldowns.db2
2x spellcategories.db2
1x spelllevels.db2
2x spelleffect.db2
2x spell.db2
3x spellvisualkiteffect.db2
26x soundkit.db2
141x soundkitentry.db2
20x soundkitadvanced.db2
5x itemsearchname.db2
1x npcsounds.db2
3x soundkitchild.db2
2x creaturesounddata.db2
1x transmogset.db2
5x itemsparse.db2
1x mountxdisplay.db2
1x soundenvelope.db2
1x creaturexdisplayinfo.db2
2x spellname.db2
1x rtpc.db2
4x creaturesoundfidget.db2

Also, I did some heavy speculating on Twitter based on the 5 items as well as some info that Wowhead didn't copy over just yet!

KeyboardTurner and Zee who are both very talented dataminers found some more stuff about these files.

also looks like it's 2 different models of backpack, each with 5 colours (all encrypted) not just 1 backpack. who knows what it could be tho
10 backpacks total if you count recolours

Done a bit of digging. The blp's are 256x512 + alpha, same as the murloc backpack. The m2 size => a complex animation embedded. The skin file is 52kb, which is @ 2.5 times larger than the covenant cloaks, but 0.9 the size of the murloc back, so a complex model. So : Baby Whelp

Twitter user patf0rd also spotted some battle pet abilities that aren't hooked up to anything (which fit perfectly with a dragonkin pet) belonging to a pet that was hotfixed together with the pet under the assumed 10.0 preorder key. although the specific pet that is seemingly connected with these abilities is encrypted under a separate key.

EDIT: Something is breaking this post while saving, you can see my Twitter thread with heavy speculation based on these tweets here: https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1514624847510450184

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

We do get a seed from the winter queen i just cant think of a better way to heal the world then that lol

It's probably just to re-create Teldrassil to justify the devs not updating the old world.

[Hypester]

I wonder if they originally planned on having the Nelves relocate to Hyjal because of the lore importance and it being an easier place to make into a new capital, but backpedaled when people started getting mad about the idea (ITS TOO CLOSE TO DA HORDE!!!11)

So they said fuck it we’ll just make a new tree. Probably through instancing because it’s too hard to model.

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It's probably just to re-create Teldrassil to justify the devs not updating the old world.

They updated a lot of Nelf assets for the old world like their bridges and inns, so something Nelf will be getting updated eventually.

What they will probably do is make Teldrassil a background image and you port into a new super detailed Teldrassil zone.

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So we can likely expect a baby drake pet backpack and another type of backpack (cape/wings), each with all flight colors.

[Teriz]

Yeah, I just completely disagree that the character on the box has anything to do with the fact a class is being added. Each character represents the focus of the expansion. Except poor Bolvar, whose only relevance was involved in getting to the expansion and then squandered afterward. Like, who else would they have put on the Wrath box except the Lich King? Chen was the only Pandaren that was even established to exist before MoP and Garrosh as the villain certainly didn't belong on the box. No central character fit Legion better than Illidan except maybe Sargeras and people would likely have thrown a fit if he was on the box and never appeared except in one short glimpse during the end cinematic. Even Kil'jaeden was only a mid tier threat for the expac, and Illidan's big come back was discussed and hinted at as far back as Mists. Whether demon hunters were added or not, Illidan was the poster child for Legion.

Well no, what I'm saying is that if there's a new class in 10.0, and Alexstraza is on the cover, then the next class is going to be based on that character from the RTS/MOBA complete with her ability set from that sources. It has always worked that way.

Examples;



We got Death Knights based on the Lich King and the DKs RTS abilities.



We got Monks based on Chen Stormstout and the Brewmaster's RTS abilities.




We got Demon Hunters based on Illidan and the DH's RTS abilities.


So it stands to reason that if Alexstraza is on the cover of the next expansion and we're getting a class, it's going to be based on her and get her MOBA abilities.

Just like if Gazlowe somehow ends up on the cover instead, we're getting a Tinker class.

[Nightshade711]

Yep! 5 items all belonging to the same transmogset. Those things "added last night" weren't actually added last night but were hotfixes from the 9th which got baked in last night's hotfix build.

Here's a list of how many encrypted rows are covered by the key in all the different database tables:



Also, I did some heavy speculating on Twitter based on the 5 items as well as some info that Wowhead didn't copy over just yet!

KeyboardTurner and Zee who are both very talented dataminers found some more stuff about these files.





Twitter user patf0rd also spotted some battle pet abilities that aren't hooked up to anything (which fit perfectly with a dragonkin pet) belonging to a pet that was hotfixed together with the pet under the assumed 10.0 preorder key. although the specific pet that is seemingly connected with these abilities is encrypted under a separate key.

EDIT: Something is breaking this post while saving, you can see my Twitter thread with heavy speculation based on these tweets here: https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1514624847510450184

With the pet having the vulpera skeleton and dragon abilities I’m willing to bet it’s a baby Drakonid/dragonman.

Though that might take away it being a race because it would be weird to have a baby version of a race as a pet.
(But then again that didn’t stop Pandaren I guess)

[Hypester]

With the pet having the vulpera skeleton and dragon abilities I’m willing to bet it’s a baby Drakonid/dragonman.

Though that might take away it being a race because it would be weird to have a baby version of a race as a pet.
(But then again that didn’t stop Pandaren I guess)

It could be a squire or something as opposed to an actual pet pet.