Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

I mean I've been wanting Naga for almost 18 years so....sure, of course people want what we've been seeing all along.

And is that really a problem? (agreeing with you)

There's no need for something 'cool' and 'original' when we already have a bunch of races in game that players have been clamoring for years. Exempting anything draconian, there's Jinyu, there's Naga, there's Ogres... some even want Hozen lol.

I can go on!

[Teriz]

Ttrpg dragonsworn class

Except the TTRPG Dragonsworn are essentially covenants, where established classes pick up random dragon abilities. A prime example is Ysera's Tears in the Druid class, or Alexstraza's Fury in the Mage class. They're not a unique or stand alone class. Even the ones that appeared in WoW were Paladins, Warriors, Mages, etc. who worked for the Bronze Dragonflight. Again, no unique abilities or powers. Just your typical classes in service of the flights.

Just as viable as your HotS classes except they are actually classes

Oh? Can you name a hero character that is a Dragonsworn? You know, a character that actually has a fan base, and has people drawing fan art?

Here's one for the dragon class I'm proposing;

[Yunravel]

Wait are people actually preferring a race that is a 4 legged dragon and a reused model mortal form over... an actual new race?

You are saying it's a re-used model because u made ur mind that way.

It could also : bring fully new customizations to all existing races, 3D heritages set of armor with the details level of Wrathion outfit, and actually MATCHING dragon form. (Unlike Demon hunter metamorphosis).

But sure lets say its re-used humanoid form with old vanilla dragon form as a CD. lol

[Teriz]

I don't remember ppl complaining about Alexstrasza gameplay in HoTS, and her dragon form is in fact, a CD. Same goes with Chromie, I mostly remember ppl loving them to be honest.

I personally thought that Alexstraza was awesome in HotS. Very unique and cool hero.

It would make an incredible WoW class.

[Hypester]

I mean I've been wanting Naga for almost 18 years so....sure, of course people want what we've been seeing all along.

Drakonids and Dragonmen are not new. My confusion is that someone is advocating for a dragon/mortal race instead when I thought that was regarded as a lazier choice.

[Nightshade711]

Except the TTRPG Dragonsworn are essentially covenants, where established classes pick up random dragon abilities. A prime example is Ysera's Tears in the Druid class, or Alexstraza's Fury in the Mage class. They're not a unique or stand alone class. Even the ones that appeared in WoW were Paladins, Warriors, Mages, etc. who worked for the Bronze Dragonflight. Again, no unique abilities or powers. Just your typical classes in service of the flights.


Oh? Can you name a hero character that is a Dragonsworn?

Don't see why they couldn't use Alexstraza/Chromie/Deathwing's kits from Hearthstone but without the dragon form.
Hell without the dragon form you could easily call that "dragonsworn" and be done.

The dragons are a perfect hero class to "represent" the dragonsworn class.
Just like the Lich King and Illidan represent their respective classes, but the player character isn't exactly like them.

[Yunravel]

I personally thought that Alexstraza was awesome in HotS. Very unique and cool hero.

It would make an incredible WoW class.

I mean, Alexstrasza is my main on HoTS and I always wanted to play something similar ever since they released her

[micwini]

Is it really that hard to give someone an IP ban?
I'm sorry, Ill take my -5, but this is rediculous

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

It would require a large re-work of the skeleton, mostly for combat animations and to make them walk on the ground rather than float, but it'd work. Use the Goblin/Vulpera base. Disappear their wings to make sheathing and cloaks work, reappear them whenever they use their racial mount. Bam.

I think the reworking of the skeleton would be the most difficult. It's not like Blizzard has an aversion to clipping and I think the two handed fighting would be the most difficult. EQ had them appear floating slightly above the ground and had them still interact as if they would ground bound, which could easily translate to WoW. Their wings also just popped out of the cloaks.

...now that we're talking about it, I want to make a Fae rogue.

[SniperCT]

And is that really a problem? (agreeing with you)

There's no need for something 'cool' and 'original' when we already have a bunch of races in game that players have been clamoring for years. Exempting anything draconian, there's Jinyu, there's Naga, there's Ogres... some even want Hozen lol.

I can go on!

Yeah! They have a deep well to draw on without adding entirely new races to the mix.

Most (not all) races added to wow have either always been there, or are derivatives of existing races. Though some are kind of left field (no one had any idea nightborne or highmountain could ever be a thing until they showed up, for example)

Vulpera maybe the most 'this race just showed up now you can play them' race? Did anything like them ever exist in lore before BFA?

[Teriz]

Don't see why they couldn't use Alexstraza/Chromie/Deathwing's kits from Hearthstone but without the dragon form.
Hell without the dragon form you could easily call that "dragonsworn" and be done.

The dragons are a perfect hero class to "represent" the dragonsworn class.
Just like the Lich King and Illidan represent their respective classes, but the player character isn't exactly like them.

Removing the dragon form kind of defeats the entire purpose of the concept.

What made Alexstraza great in HotS? The fact that she could turn into a mutha$#%ing dragon.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

Just wondering why especially here the

Black versus White Debate pops out that often.

Yes they erased White NPCs and turned them Black, but that’s totally ok.

It is the same what happens in RL.
White Male Heterosexuals are disappearing.

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[Pheraz]

Am I weird, that the biggest part I like about the idea about a dragons-on-azeroth-expansion is that the xpac will be on azeroth?
I hope we get some sweet lordaeron development. And kaldorei, but please this time with teeth. And ofc some dragon stuff I guess? /shrug

[boyzma]

Quit feeding it.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

I think the reworking of the skeleton would be the most difficult. It's not like Blizzard has an aversion to clipping and I think the two handed fighting would be the most difficult. EQ had them appear floating slightly above the ground and had them still interact as if they would ground bound, which could easily translate to WoW. Their wings also just popped out of the cloaks.

...now that we're talking about it, I want to make a Fae rogue.

Hmm... yeah, something like that could be possible. We never thought Blizzard would make a race that had invisible gear, but they did so with Mechagnomes, so anything is possible at this point.

I'd just race change my main (warrior). In fact, I'd race change every character of mine.

Yeah! They have a deep well to draw on without adding entirely new races to the mix.

Most (not all) races added to wow have either always been there, or are derivatives of existing races. Though some are kind of left field (no one had any idea nightborne or highmountain could ever be a thing until they showed up, for example)

Vulpera maybe the most 'this race just showed up now you can play them' race? Did anything like them ever exist in lore before BFA?

The War of the Ancients trilogy mentioned a small, humanoid fox Wild God. But that's about it.

[ercarp]

Damn man couldn't even get the signature from the guy he is trying to impersonate.

He's not very good at whatever it is that he's trying to do.

[Catastrophy349]

Good Evening! We are inching closer and closer. Soon, everyone. Soon!

[Nightshade711]

Removing the dragon form kind of defeats the entire purpose of the concept.

What made Alexstraza great in HotS? The fact that she could turn into a mutha$#%ing dragon.

Ok but only being in dragon form like 5% of the time in content, if that, doesn't defeat the purpose of a dragon concept?

Chromie doesn't have a dragon form and she's just fine. You use her as an example a lot and she never turns into a dragon. Not even as a mount. She just uses dragon themed spells. It would be likely that a dragonsworn class would do the same to help them stand out.

Do the same with alexstraza. Change around the dragonqueen CD to not have you turn into a big dragon and it's the same thing.
In WoW, it'd be better mechanically to not have a dragon form in combat anyways.

[Jodmos]

Maybe it's actually a leak and the new race is going to be a type of troll.

[Nightshade711]

Maybe it's actually a leak and the new race is going to be a type of troll.

Inb4 elf troll hybrid race.
"Can't have enough elves" -Blizzard, probably.