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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    That's the speculation, yep. Remember nothing is confirmed, but there's definitely similarities (though it could still be some other back item too).
    Sad - I would rather take wings than another reskin of the murloc egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    What if they dropped the whole package.

    - Pre-order Covenant Allied Races
    - Drakonid Race
    - Dragonsworn Class
    If those baby dragon backpacks are a pre-order bonus, it's game over, because they got my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Sad - I would rather take wings than another reskin of the murloc egg.
    On the bright side, this means that if we get wings, there's a chance that they're mechanically functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Sad - I would rather take wings than another reskin of the murloc egg.
    Don't take anything as fact just yet, datamining around encrypted stuff is always speculative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    What if they dropped the whole package.

    - Pre-order Covenant Allied Races
    - Drakonid Race
    - Dragonsworn Class
    I don’t think covenant races are happening. However the Tirisfal thing points to a preorder bonus, be it a Darkfallen AR or a dark ranger class skin.

    I don’t think they have made many advances on the covenants races and as the expansion theme is unpopular they may choose to not go all in on the SL races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiradon View Post
    I don't like this lack of Dark Ranger love recently you guys
    They already pretty much confirmed so nothing new to report there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Sad - I would rather take wings than another reskin of the murloc egg.
    Something like this?

    https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...ragonscale.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiradon View Post
    I don't like this lack of Dark Ranger love recently you guys
    Just give it a week or 2 and the most vocal Tinker/Dragonrace/class fan will switch to Dark ranger.


    I just want any new class at this point tbh, hopefully a ranged dps.

  9. #41269
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    What if they dropped the whole package.

    - Pre-order Covenant Allied Races
    - Drakonid Race
    - Dragonsworn Class
    covenant allied races is the most stupid, lore unfriendly idea I've heard about during shadowlands period. Not only it doesn't make sense because they don't belong in the world of the living, but also shadowlands portal is closed for good.

  10. #41270
    Quote Originally Posted by Raxacorico View Post
    covenant allied races is the most stupid, lore unfriendly idea I've heard about during shadowlands period. Not only it doesn't make sense because they don't belong in the world of the living, but also shadowlands portal is closed for good.
    Since when does lore reasons matter? Lol. Blizzard retconned half the game already so anything can happen if they wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxacorico View Post
    covenant allied races is the most stupid, lore unfriendly idea I've heard about during shadowlands period. Not only it doesn't make sense because they don't belong in the world of the living, but also shadowlands portal is closed for good.
    No, we go back there in 9.2.5. The crack to the Maw is closed but the way to the Shadowlands is not closed and so far there is no lore saying it is.

    They might close it because people are whining about it but Pelagos and the other Eternals have not sealed the way from Oribos to the capitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    - Pre-order Covenant Allied Races
    Please, please, please no. It makes no sense for any of the Shadowlands races to come with us to Azeroth... and even if it did, it would still be for the best if we just left all of that dreadful expansion behind and moved on. Let's not bring any weird blue smurf creatures with us when we go to the Dragon Isles. Nobody wants that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxacorico View Post
    covenant allied races is the most stupid, lore unfriendly idea I've heard about during shadowlands period. Not only it doesn't make sense because they don't belong in the world of the living, but also shadowlands portal is closed for good.
    They can hold a special rock that allows them to be in the world of the living. The lore these days is so flimsy anything is possible. As far as priorities go its:

    rule of money > rule of cool > rule of lore

    And pre-order incentives and race changes print money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Since when does lore reasons matter? Lol. Blizzard retconned half the game already so anything can happen if they wanted to.
    This isn't just any retcon. This would mean that your own guardian angel would walk right beside you or couldn't escort you, after your death, to the arbiter because he'd be too busy flipping the auction house and fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deventh View Post
    Since when does lore reasons matter? Lol. Blizzard retconned half the game already so anything can happen if they wanted to.
    That doesn't mean that's how it should be, and to be frank, Blizz's penchant for unnecessary retcons has contributed a great deal to the sour mood around the game right now. Especially for lore people. Anything can happen if Blizz wants it to, but that doesn't mean we should be okay with it, or that we shouldn't hold them and the game's story to a higher level than the barrel-bottom that it currently is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Yep! 5 items all belonging to the same transmogset. Those things "added last night" weren't actually added last night but were hotfixes from the 9th which got baked in last night's hotfix build.

    Here's a list of how many encrypted rows are covered by the key in all the different database tables:



    Also, I did some heavy speculating on Twitter based on the 5 items as well as some info that Wowhead didn't copy over just yet!

    KeyboardTurner and Zee who are both very talented dataminers found some more stuff about these files.





    Twitter user patf0rd also spotted some battle pet abilities that aren't hooked up to anything (which fit perfectly with a dragonkin pet) belonging to a pet that was hotfixed together with the pet under the assumed 10.0 preorder key. although the specific pet that is seemingly connected with these abilities is encrypted under a separate key.

    EDIT: Something is breaking this post while saving, you can see my Twitter thread with heavy speculation based on these tweets here: https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1514624847510450184
    Thank you very much for that!
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    For the matriarchy.

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    It’s not a lore retcon/messup when its based on fanon. Necrolords and Kyrians (and as we find out Dreadlords) have left the Shadowlands all expansion on the regular and 9.2.5 has Blood Elves go to Bastion and Maldraxxus after the campaign.

    Is it lore you don’t like? That’s another issue entirely and likely why Blizzard won’t do it. But to say it is a retcon or “incorrect” is false.

  18. #41278
    Quote Originally Posted by ercarp View Post
    Please, please, please no. It makes no sense for any of the Shadowlands races to come with us to Azeroth... and even if it did, it would still be for the best if we just left all of that dreadful expansion behind and moved on. Let's not bring any weird blue smurf creatures with us when we go to the Dragon Isles. Nobody wants that.
    Unfortunately I'm almost positive some people want that. I agree 100% though. They need to stay in that expansion never to be seen again. lol
    Last edited by Bsirk; 2022-04-14 at 10:38 PM.

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    IDK it would feel really weird to have the SL covenants running around as player races. Like...most of them don't fit the 'feel' of azeroth. not enough to be a playable race.

    I know that's subjective, but to me they just don't. This entire expansion has felt like an entirely different franchise, imo.

    And that's saying a lot considering space goats. I'm usually able to justify almost anything as fitting within Warcraft.

    But the SL visual style as a whole just... didn't click for me. there were bits and pieces in some of the zones, but even those were... a little off, somehow.

  20. #41280
    Ah I see you must have confused Warcraft for a different game but ok we can do that

    I see your dragon race and raise you a dragonsworn class

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