Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Vakir]

you google dnd bard and every dude you find has drip IDENTICAL to Wrathion.

Oh, I absolutely understand that Wrathion is a glorious thirst trap, HOLY SHIT, and...wait where was I going with this?

[SniperCT]

Oh, I absolutely understand that Wrathion is a glorious thirst trap, HOLY SHIT, and...wait where was I going with this?

So many thirst traps. Wrathion, Alex, Ysera, Nozdormu... I'm pleased no matter what.

[Teriz]

So without the dragon transformation, even if it had everything else, you wouldn't play the class?

I would play the class because its new and I would want to check it out. However, I seriously doubt it would have much staying power. Again, it would be viewed as a reskinned mage with a fire healing spec. The issue is that we've pretty much exhausted the caster category. What allows a HotS dragon-based class to work is the dragon transformation, and without it, you just have another caster that is doing stuff that other casters could accomplish.

Just about 4 years.

Actually 2 years, 9 months, and 16 days. ICC didn't release until December 2009. MoP was released in September 2012.

Given that they didn't add ogres due to size back in Cataclysm, they're definitely going to be shorter than Ogres so that takes mount-sized out of the question.

A race is different than a class form. An Ogre race would also have to contend with armor and weapons, a Dragon form would not.

Also it'd be a bit confusing for a good bit of players who click dwarf, read the whole lore/information thing on dwarves on the menu and even get dwarf racials... but everyone in the starting zone is like "lol jk you're a dragon"

Not if you picking your race is one of the first quests in the starting zone.

[ro9ue]

Can someone catch me up with what this is all about? https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...51596619440130

[Teriz]

We don't know for sure Alexstrasza is going to be on the box, and if they said Wrathion is a bard that would track. And even then the "the person on the box must be the same class as the new class" is hardly a rule: Nothing is that formulaic.

Again, that's how Blizzard rolls. It actually makes sense when you think about it; You have the character on the box because it fits the setting and story of the expansion. That character is used to help sell units on store shelves and online. As an added bonus, YOU can be like that cool character on the box that just sold this game to you. If you're well versed in the lore, you know the character, so that would make you more inclined to roll that character's class.

It's a very good way to make your game's classes seem larger than life, and give them a little more edge and personality.

As for Alexstraza being on the box, I never said it was 100%. Even a new class isn't 100%. However, given the artwork, and the fact that the last class was announced 7 years ago, I would say the chance is very high that Alexstraza is the cover character, and that we're getting a new class. If that's the case, then chances are also high that we're getting a class based on Alexstraza's character from HotS, since we have been getting consistent ability and mechanic transfers from that game. Most recently Sylvanas' kit in Sanctum of Domination and the weapon drops for Hunters.

[therumblings]

Can someone catch me up with what this is all about? https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...51596619440130

@Scaleface has leaked and confirmed parts of Legion before it was announced, he started posting cryptic information about the next expansion.

[Nightshade711]

I would play the class because its new and I would want to check it out.

Case closed then. Even the most die-hard dragon fan would play it, don’t see why blizz would waste the time.

Actually 2 years, 9 months, and 16 days. ICC didn't release until December 2009. MoP was released in September 2012.

Lmao bruh.
DKs weren’t released with ICC.

And you asked if wotlk was far from MoP, not how far ICC was from MoP

WotLK was far from MoP timewise?

A race is different than a class form. An Ogre race would also have to contend with armor and weapons, a Dragon form would not.

Except that didn’t have anything to do with why Ogress weren’t playable. It was mostly because of their size.

Not if you picking your race is one of the first quests in the starting zone.

So they’re a race at this point, if you’re picking your mortal form during the quests and not at character creation.

[Vakir]

Can someone catch me up with what this is all about? https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...51596619440130

Absolute bollocks. A low-clout poster talking about exactly what he said in the first couple of replies. The Evoker thing is so vague and non-descript around the lazy riddle of "oh, the name is similar to another class' ability name!" which people played guess work with.

The whole thing is low effort and silly. We have all of 4 days to worry about.

[Ersula]

Can someone catch me up with what this is all about? https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...51596619440130

The microclasses thing came from the user who gave a credible legion leak.

The problem being microclasses sound dumb as hell so if his leak is real he assuredly explained it wrong. An elective spec system makes way more sense than class with one spec. "It would encourage alts" more like it would absolutely alienate people who don't like alts, and Blizzard does not allow that as a rule.

[therumblings]

The microclasses thing came from the user who gave a credible legion leak.

Uh, what? Source? The tweet is referring to @Scaleface, unless I somehow missed him talk about Microclasses.

[Vakir]

Uh, what? Source? The tweet is referring to @Scaleface, unless I somehow missed him talk about Microclasses.

You are correct, he didn't. He was talking about what is inferred to be the Evoker and concepts similar to Pandaren and DH.

[therumblings]

Absolute bollocks.

I'm not so sure he is lying, his Legion leaks were mostly accurate and posted before we even knew there would be an expansion announcement at Gamescom.

[Teriz]

Case closed then. Even the most die-hard dragon fan would play it, don’t see why blizz would waste the time.

Not play it, try it out. A "dragon class" that is merely a caster with nothing setting it apart from present classes wouldn't really have a long shelf life.

Lmao bruh.
DKs weren’t released with ICC.

Soul Reaper was released with ICC. DKs first experienced Soul Reaper there.

Except that didn’t have anything to do with why Ogress weren’t playable. It was mostly because of their size.

Again, a race's size is a constant, and has to deal with armor and weapons being placed on top of it. A dragon form doesn't have those issues.

So they’re a race at this point, if you’re picking your mortal form during the quests and not at character creation.

Semantics. You're simply controlling your character and completing a quest. A hero class' starting zone gives Blizzard free reign to design it any way they want, because only that class will experience it.

[ro9ue]

I'm not so sure he is lying, his Legion leaks were mostly accurate and posted before we even knew there would be an expansion announcement at Gamescom.

I don't care if Ion Hazzikostas himself told me right now Evoker was the next class, it's such a dumb, waste of a new class slot I would just assume he's trolling me.

[KayRule]

I'm not so sure he is lying, his Legion leaks were mostly accurate and posted before we even knew there would be an expansion announcement at Gamescom.

Why is this thread terminally unable to process getting one thing as a lucky guess and 30 things wrong means they just had a lucky guess?

[therumblings]

Why is this thread terminally unable to process getting one thing as a lucky guess and 30 things wrong means they just had a lucky guess?

Read his post history. Some of that stuff is too specific to be just a random guess. He definitely was in contact with someone who saw behind the scenes stuff in March of 2015.

[Teriz]

I don't care if Ion Hazzikostas himself told me right now Evoker was the next class, it's such a dumb, waste of a new class slot I would just assume he's trolling me.

I am in full agreement. It doesn't make much sense to create a class that could be placed in the existing mage class.

[therumblings]

I'm not convinced Evoker is the name either, he never said that was the name, just one of them in the list.

[Teriz]

I'm not convinced Evoker is the name either, he never said that was the name, just one of them in the list.

Didn't he say that one of the specs is a Chronomancer, and the other steps all over the toes of Arcane Mage?

[Vakir]

I'm not so sure he is lying, his Legion leaks were mostly accurate and posted before we even knew there would be an expansion announcement at Gamescom.

I treat it like the stupid mystery box Old God whispers - even if it ends up being accurate, the method of delivery is so arcane and convoluted that it's worthless and remains horseshit regardless.

If you're going to give some kind of bullshit insider scoop but you obfuscate it so heavily that it can be projected however you want and is difficult to disprove as a result, it renders the whole thing moot to just...waiting.

The rare occasion where the satirical "I know authors who use subtext and they're all cowards, every one of them" is accurate.