Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

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Agreed. Expansions don't need to have 3 patches and in fact several expansions had more or less than 3 patches.

TBC: It had 4 content patches.
MOP: It had 4 content patches.
WOD: It had 2 content patches.

And Yes 6.1 was a content patch and is acknowledged as such by Blizzard on their official website, no matter how much WoD apologists want to pretend it wasn't one.

WoW players have grown complacent but the truth is that an expansion doesn't need to have 3 content patches, that's not a rule, so Shadowlands could perfectly end with just 2 content patches like WoD.

WOD didn't have ANY content patches. It was shit and that's part of why I laugh at anyone who thinks BFA was worse.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Yeah, but I think blizzard tried to pretend it was one. I honestly don't remember at this point.

And Yes 6.1 was a content patch and is acknowledged as such by Blizzard on their official website, no matter how much WoD apologists want to pretend it wasn't one.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...on-Hazzikostas

Patch 6.1 was extremely light on content and might have better been named Patch 6.0.5. It was a small set of updates, but using a major patch number may have been misleading. The team had just launched the expansion and was going on holiday vacations, but wanted to get some fixes and improvements in before the next major patch.

[therumblings]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...on-Hazzikostas

That was after the patch released, we're talking about the build up to it.

[TheFirstOnes]

Yeah, but I think blizzard tried to pretend it was one. I honestly don't remember at this point.

I think Ion talked about how 6.1 was more comparable to a mini patch, which was truly a concept once Legion started.

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That was after the patch released, we're talking about the build up to it.

I am of the idea 6.1 was supposed to be FAR more than what we got. Likely would've had Farahlon, or a Shattrath Mini Raid as the TRUE beginning of those types of raids. But it appears that may have been scrapped. Highly possible we'll see a Shattrath raid for 10.0 however.

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WOD didn't have ANY content patches. It was shit and that's part of why I laugh at anyone who thinks BFA was worse.

It had 1 TRUE content patch. And that was 6.2.

[Revamp Man]

I think Ion talked about how 6.1 was more comparable to a mini patch, which was truly a concept once Legion started.

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I am of the idea 6.1 was supposed to be FAR more than what we got. Likely would've had Farahlon, or a Shattrath Mini Raid as the TRUE beginning of those types of raids. But it appears that may have been scrapped. Highly possible we'll see a Shattrath raid for 10.0 however.

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It had 1 TRUE content patch. And that was 6.2.

so depending on 9.2 i dont see what would lead us to go back to AU draenor

like i see that when we go to the light expansion which, as much as i hate to admit, the stupid first ones lore is setting us up for in terms of powerful beings

but as far as i can see 9.2 is probably going to be us getting to where the sepulcher is and actually managing to get some form of advantage over the jailer for once since he now has 0 allies with him on the other side of that portal and sylvanas either sacrificing herself to save anduin or to stop the jailer himself. 9.3 will lead us back to azeroth because thats where his goal lies since Azeroth is a "unique" world soul and our link to her is why we were able to interact with a relic of the first ones. Whether that brings us into the dragon isles will actually determine the next expansion. If it does then i can see us getting a link to other planes next expansion

[TheFirstOnes]

Light and Shadow is likely next. I still stand by my 10.0 theory. Shattrath raid is VERY likely considering Yrel, the Lightbound, etc.

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Dragon Isles can be the next main continent tbh. Doesn't hurt the Light/Shadow plotline at all. If anything, it helps it.

[Dracullus]

WOD didn't have ANY content patches. It was shit and that's part of why I laugh at anyone who thinks BFA was worse.

What next? We'll straight up say expacs we don't like didn't exist?

[Lady Atia]

I think Ion talked about how 6.1 was more comparable to a mini patch, which was truly a concept once Legion started.

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I am of the idea 6.1 was supposed to be FAR more than what we got. Likely would've had Farahlon, or a Shattrath Mini Raid as the TRUE beginning of those types of raids. But it appears that may have been scrapped. Highly possible we'll see a Shattrath raid for 10.0 however.

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It had 1 TRUE content patch. And that was 6.2.

You won't get a Shattrath Raid anymore lol. That train left Gorgrond long ago ...

[Varodoc]

WOD didn't have ANY content patches. It was shit and that's part of why I laugh at anyone who thinks BFA was worse.

Your compliance isn't a factor. The fact is that WoD was indeed recognized by Blizzard to have 2 content patches, one named "Garrison Invasions" and one named "Fury of Hellfire".

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https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...on-Hazzikostas

I mean, Ion can try to save his own ass as much as he wants, the fact is that he named it 6.1 :shrug: He should have thought of that before naming it 6.1, now everyone will remember it as such.

[Ivarr]

I see a lot of posts lately saying they are tired of the SL setting and want to return to Azeroth so... maybe Blizzard planned on this?

I don't mind the idea of an afterlife in WoW. It opens up a lot of potential new zones. But indeed I'm so over these four zones (yes, four). There's far more interesting things you can do with WoW's folklore and the afterlife than what happened here. A Loa zone, a zone for geomancers, the Ancestral plane, O'Grila, A full De Other Side zone. Every small race in WoW has a seed for more interesting zones.

The fact that all the zone storylines are effectively finished in 9.1s campaign makes me think that the next patch will be a different realm entirely,

The name 'Sepulcher' doesn't spark much hope for a drastically different zone. But indeed a new zone nonetheless.

[Lady Atia]

I don't mind the idea of an afterlife in WoW. It opens up a lot of potential new zones. But indeed I'm so over these four zones (yes, four). There's far more interesting things you can do with WoW's folklore and the afterlife than what happened here. A Loa zone, a zone for geomancers, the Ancestral plane, O'Grila, A full De Other Side zone. Every small race in WoW has a seed for more interesting zones.




The name 'Sepulcher' doesn't spark much hope for a drastically different zone. But indeed a new zone nonetheless.

Well, we also thought that Nyalotha would be a new zone or even an expansion setting.

[Ivarr]

Well, we also thought that Nyalotha would be a new zone or even an expansion setting.

A huge disappointment as I really loved how that raid looked. It's the most beautiful instance in the game. It's such a shame that lorewise it's all destroyed now, there's not even a chance of revisiting this place in future content bar Bronze dragon flight antics.

[therumblings]

Well, we also thought that Nyalotha would be a new zone or even an expansion setting.

It will be hilarious if the Sepulcher is just like Ny'alotha and is only a raid instance.

[Varodoc]

It will be hilarious if the Sepulcher is just like Ny'alotha and is only a raid instance.

Not really that hilarious. It's a sepulcher, a sepulcher is just a single building. You can't turn a single building into an entire zone.

Meanwhile Ny'alotha was an actual city and alternate dimension.

[Sondrelk]

Not really that hilarious. It's a sepulcher, a sepulcher is just a single building. You can't turn a single building into an entire zone.

Meanwhile Ny'alotha was an actual city and alternate dimension.

You can turn anything you want into a zone, you could turn even a subset of a zone into a set of zones if you really wanted. If you took some time you could for instance easily turn a city like Suramar into an entire expansion, with varied zones, dungeons and raids.

Of course that doesnt mean you should. Which is why I have advocated in the past that areas like Argus were better as patch content instead of an expansion.

Ny'alotha could have been a zone though, definitely. Though it would need more than what we saw in the Raid. Though with that even the raid should have had more variety.

[Raetary]

Not really that hilarious. It's a sepulcher, a sepulcher is just a single building. You can't turn a single building into an entire zone.

Meanwhile Ny'alotha was an actual city and alternate dimension.

The Sepulcher is a name, which they can attache to literally anything they want to.

[Varodoc]

You can turn anything you want into a zone, you could turn even a subset of a zone into a set of zones if you really wanted. If you took some time you could for instance easily turn a city like Suramar into an entire expansion, with varied zones, dungeons and raids.

Of course that doesnt mean you should. Which is why I have advocated in the past that areas like Argus were better as patch content instead of an expansion.

Ny'alotha could have been a zone though, definitely. Though it would need more than what we saw in the Raid. Though with that even the raid should have had more variety.

No. You wouldn't be able to turn a single building into an entire zone.

[Dracullus]

No. You wouldn't be able to turn a single building into an entire zone.

Who said this Sepulcher is a building?

[Raetary]

Who said this Sepulcher is a building?

And even if it was, you absolutely can turn a building into a zone.

The zone would just be said building.

[Lady Atia]

You can turn anything you want into a zone, you could turn even a subset of a zone into a set of zones if you really wanted. If you took some time you could for instance easily turn a city like Suramar into an entire expansion, with varied zones, dungeons and raids.

Of course that doesnt mean you should. Which is why I have advocated in the past that areas like Argus were better as patch content instead of an expansion.

Ny'alotha could have been a zone though, definitely. Though it would need more than what we saw in the Raid. Though with that even the raid should have had more variety.

Nyalotha had soooo much potential. That said, I guess we will get a proper "Voidlands" expansion down the line instead. Maybe combined with "Lightlands" - I could imagine that both planes are actually next to each other and the borders are changing similiar to the elementals zones on Azeroth back before the Titans came. Could make a cool feature where the zones change from light to void, similiar to N'Zoth Assaults!