Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Marlamin]

You aren't gonna be datamining 10.0, aren't ya?

End of an era...

Not publicly.

He took the "Datamining is bad" corporate koolaid.

Datamining good, spoiler datamining bad. Important difference!

[therumblings]

It is "Leviosa", actually.

[Hitei]

So here's a weird thing. I have developed a few different types of gut feelings over the last decade or so and after that accidental 9.2.5 Beta build instead of PTR, the secretive wowdev3 96.0 build, PTR not coming back up until "early next week" as well as last nights new encrypted vendor endpoints, I am currently stuck in the "datamining of first public build is any day now" gut feeling. Like, I feel the need to update my "expansion datamining night" Spotify playlist.

Anyone with me or did I eat something bad at the office party yesterday?

I put "Alpha same week" on my bingo chart. I'm pretty sure they will shadow drop during the announement, or the day after.

The gap between announcement and testing start is usually (I'd guess) mostly because they need the time to get stuff pretty far along. The announcement was delayed significantly this time around, but that doesn't mean the background stuff stopped--which means they should be pretty far along already.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Not publicly.



Datamining good, spoiler datamining bad. Important difference!

Just gonna 'lol' at the corporate koolaid part. As if people don't change!

Will still be fun going through dozens of Wowhead articles and the like.

[Sondrelk]

Not publicly.



Datamining good, spoiler datamining bad. Important difference!

But where is the line drawn? Is it a spoiler if a weapon called Murozond's horn is listed as a raid drop? Or if the epic armor looks Naga themed?

[Makabreska]

Kinda random that dracomalfoy and harrypotter are restricted names, but hermionegranger and ronweasley are completely fine.

#dracomalfoy4warchief

[therumblings]

Ultimately I don't think it matters as long as Wowhead and MMO-C keep posting front page spoilers, I believe Marla is specifically talking about story being spoiled by datamining though.

[Marlamin]

But where is the line drawn? Is it a spoiler if a weapon called Murozond's horn is listed as a raid drop? Or if the epic armor looks Naga themed?

I'm sure everyone has different definitions, in my book it is okay to go "oh hey there's secret Tirisfal content" but not "Here's the dialog of the new Tirisfal line by line!".

Ultimately I don't think it matters as long as Wowhead and MMO-C keep posting front page spoilers, I believe Marla is specifically talking about story being spoiled by datamining though.

Yup!

[Makabreska]

But where is the line drawn? Is it a spoiler if a weapon called Murozond's horn is listed as a raid drop? Or if the epic armor looks Naga themed?

There is no line. People will mine absolutely everything. Best thing to hope for is a /spoiler tag.

[Hypester]

Interesting that the other leaker keeps mentioning Magni, but it makes sense. The last time we saw all the New Aspects it was in the Heart Chamber.

Maybe the 10.0 story picks up right after 8.3 and we’re going back to Silithus and the sword at the beginning?

(Which would hammer in again that SL was just filler story wise)

[Sondrelk]

Ultimately I don't think it matters as long as Wowhead and MMO-C keep posting front page spoilers, I believe Marla is specifically talking about story being spoiled by datamining though.

It's still difficult to figure out hwere the line is though. Datamining voicelines and cinematics is one thing, but what about dungeon journal entries? Or cosmetic rewards?

[Lady Atia]

So here's a weird thing. I have developed a few different types of gut feelings over the last decade or so and after that accidental 9.2.5 Beta build instead of PTR, the secretive wowdev3 96.0 build, PTR not coming back up until "early next week" as well as last nights new encrypted vendor endpoints, I am currently stuck in the "datamining of first public build is any day now" gut feeling. Like, I feel the need to update my "expansion datamining night" Spotify playlist.

Anyone with me or did I eat something bad at the office party yesterday?



It is "Leviosa", actually.

I'm with your wise bird. Honestly, the only reason to have the reveal this late is if they want to have a playable alpha/demo next week.

[therumblings]

It's up to Blizzard encrypting shit I guess. Because if they don't hide every line of dialogue, the story is 100% going to be on the front page of every fan site.

It's still difficult to figure out hwere the line is though. Datamining voicelines and cinematics is one thing, but what about dungeon journal entries? Or cosmetic rewards?

Voice lines could probably go either way, but I doubt cosmetic stuff being datamined is that big of a spoiler, unless it's like something insane like Artifacts.

[Izalla]

Just to zoom in on that specifically, that's been a blocked term since Vanilla/TBC or so together with a whole other ton of class-like names. Nothing super special.

Heck I tried to name a hunter pet "Myla" back in Wrath and the name was restricted for no apparent reason. I specifically remember the name because that moment stood out to me and because I chose that name for a book idea back then and used it for the main character only a few years ago.

[Sondrelk]

I'm sure everyone has different definitions, in my book it is okay to go "oh hey there's secret Tirisfal content" but not "Here's the dialog of the new Tirisfal line by line!".

I can definitely agree on voicelines and what have you. But surely it's just as much a potential spoiler if the dungeon journal lists Azeroth, Dragonborn as the final boss of the first raid?

[Fahrad Wagner]

*helps with the clue solving*
*does not get mentioned in Scaleface's post*
*cries in OP*

[therumblings]

*helps with the clue solving*
*does not get mentioned in Scaleface's post*
*cries in OP*

Scaleface is around and definitely aware of your contributions, don't worry We just got to wait a few more days and we'll finally know if it's real.

[Blandalf]

Oh god this thread has jumped 40 pages since my last visit. What happened?!

[Leowyld]

I wonder if Dracthyr is pronounced Drake-theer or Dracktheer

In my head, it's like Venthyr, with Drak instead of Ven.

@Scaleface By the way, the model sounds interesting. But to get all these predictions in the open and specific to compare to the 19th - do Drakthyr have tails?

[Sondrelk]

It's up to Blizzard encrypting shit I guess. Because if they don't hide every line of dialogue, the story is 100% going to be on the front page of every fan site.



Voice lines could probably go either way, but I doubt cosmetic stuff being datamined is that big of a spoiler, unless it's like something insane like Artifacts.

The story should definitely not be spoiled, on that I fully agree. I just personally find the most impactful "spoilers" the zones themselves. A quick teaser of the zone is great and all, but when stuff like secret areas and such are spoiled is when I personally find it annoying.