Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Chickat]

I mean, I am known to sometimes be something of a petty b*tch.
And I stand by that.

I definitely think she will have some presence. Just not a huge one.

[Three Faced Goddess]

But neither is it a disqualification. And the Venthyr in particular were purposely designed to look like Orlok.

Nope, it isn't. There are many different kinds of vampire in mythology and folklore. The Penanggalan and lilitu are particularly interesting. I like all vampires, whether beautiful or "ugly." Count Orlok sort of resembles the Abhartach of Celtic Folklore too.

I find it interesting that Nosferatu, possibly the earliest film featuring vampires, was lost for sometime because of the story essentially plagiarized Bram Stoker's Dracula and his widow wasn't happy about that one bit.

[huth]

The males look exactly like the guy from The Strain.

Most likely common inspiration.

Count Orlok is pretty much the proto-Venthyr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Orlok

Even the hands look the same.

Edit: Also, the Venthyr are supposed to be "unattractive" vampires, they're literally designed like Nosferatu

Nosferatu is the name of the movie. The vampire is Orlok.

[Izalla]

The males look exactly like the guy from The Strain.

[IMG]https://gnomecore.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/thestrains4_21.jpg[IMG]
[IMG]https://gnomecore.files.wordpress.com/2020/11/lord-chamberlani.jpg[IMG]

The hair on that second picture just makes me think of Gary Oldman in the 1992 movie haha

[Chickat]

Basically how I feel about them as well. Being too lazy to create a full class and releasing half-assed versions of them under the pretense of them being "micro-classes" just sounds bad no matter how I look at it.

It's like selling you a car that's missing half its features and claiming that "it's okay because it's a Micro Car™! It's intended to be shit!"

EDIT: Seriously, which one would you choose:

- 1 fully functioning car that has ALL the features it needs.

OR

- 4 micro-cars: 1 has a steering wheel, 1 has brakes, 1 has a radio, and 1 has an extra seat at the back.

I agree 1 4 spec class is better but 4 1 spec classes would not be lazy. That would take a lot more work than 1 class. 2 to 3 times the work.

[Revamp Man]

The overall plot will most likely be a traditional Warcraft-style "bring everyone together to defeat a greater evil". Beyond that, I hope we get some new (good) lore and a few burning questions answered, such as:

- Who is An'she's personification? (We know Mu'sha is Elune and Lo'sho is most likely the Winter Queen).
- What's the connection between Eonar, Elune, and Elunaria? Why are there dragons on Elunaria? And why does Eonar, a Titan of the Pantheon of Order, have so much control over Life (which is its own cosmic force)?
- Is Draconic really the language used by the cosmic force of Life? And if so, why?
- What are the real origins of the dragons? The current understanding that they "evolved from elementals" feels like a cop-out that is likely to get retconned.
- Who is the Earth Mother really? Is it Eonar? Azeroth? Or someone else?

an'she is likely a member of the pantheon of life
Eonar might be another sister of Elune similar to the Winter Queen im assuming each pantheon has a member from a different cosmic force on it or they have a connection to a different force and Elune along with the pantheon of order were needed to make aspects which makes you wonder what were all of their powers and do their powers have other possibilities like an aspect of death or an aspect of fel??
I wouldnt say its the language used by life but likely a language created by the first ones who likely have a connection to dragons
Based on the requirement for the powers of life&death&order to make aspects one could say they were created by the mixing of multiple forces
i think the earth mother is Azeroth

[Chickat]

This. When you roll a mage, you are signing a contract that you will never ever tank on this character.

I know a lot of people like XIV’s “be any class!” thing but... I don’t think it’s needed.

It's not needed but if it's not gonna exist they need to expand the amount of stuff that's account wide.

[Three Faced Goddess]

Technically Shadochi larpers can soon be called related-to-blizz-dev-larpers (since im an MS dev)

Are you really? Speaking of MS, I can't wait to hear actual news on Fable.

Back on track: I can't wait for Tuesday. I'm actually fucking excited about the next expansion as much as I'm trying to tamp down my expectations.

PS: I think most of us here know that you wouldn't post the kind of crap, the Thing spouts. You're too likeable apparently, that's inspired our denizen, rapidly devolving troglodyte to try and impersonate you.

@Scaleface Thanks for promoting discussion with your puzzle. I still think you're full of shit, but you're a pretty cool due and I'd be glad to be wrong.

[ATZenith]

So I’ve heard about some Evoker leak that came from here? What is the validity of it? Any other interesting leaks I missed?

[Vakir]

So let's entertain what an Evoker even is beyond just the name if such a thing were to be accurate.

Is it someone that draws off the power of the dragons themselves? Is it a Life-oriented class that is using the same empowerments that the Titans utilized, making the class itself a sort of "soft" player version of effectively playing an Aspect?

It just seems like a strange choice compared to Dragonsworn or Dragon____ in any case. But perhaps it's the same idea in concept.

[ro9ue]

I mean like... the exact facial features. Not just rough inspiration.

[Teriz]

So let's entertain what an Evoker even is beyond just the name if such a thing were to be accurate.

Is it someone that draws off the power of the dragons themselves? Is it a Life-oriented class that is using the same empowerments that the Titans utilized, making the class itself a sort of "soft" player version of effectively playing an Aspect?

It just seems like a strange choice compared to Dragonsworn or Dragon____ in any case. But perhaps it's the same idea in concept.

Well that’s a rather large problem; without a major point of difference (like draconic transformation) we just have another spellcaster. There really isn’t much left magic-wise to create unique and interesting vspecs.

[Byucknah The Red]

Not to derail but is there a post somewhere with all the current leaks linked? Like a hub of all the leaks?

[Izalla]

Not to derail but is there a post somewhere with all the current leaks linked? Like a hub of all the leaks?

@ercarp has a list of leaks in his signature

[Byucknah The Red]

@ercarp has a list of leaks in his signature

Eeeeey, thanks a lot for the help

[horizon nowhere]

So let's entertain what an Evoker even is beyond just the name if such a thing were to be accurate.

Is it someone that draws off the power of the dragons themselves? Is it a Life-oriented class that is using the same empowerments that the Titans utilized, making the class itself a sort of "soft" player version of effectively playing an Aspect?

It just seems like a strange choice compared to Dragonsworn or Dragon____ in any case. But perhaps it's the same idea in concept.

This is the real question what would the evoker do? I mean if scaleface's leak has any credibility, it seems like he was saying the race has the draconic transformation/meta form.

[Alexjimithing]

This is the real question what would the evoker do? I mean if scaleface's leak has any credibility, it seems like he was saying the race has the draconic transformation/meta form.

I would assume it to be ‘Evoking’ the power of the Aspects. Perhaps three specs based off of the different flights. Red for healing black for DPS….or whatever.

[Wildmoon]

I feel like if the name Evoker is true then it probably does not hold any importance. I think it's a dragon power class. You "evoke" the power of dragons.

[ro9ue]

Because they're both based on Nosferatu

I mean the facial features. Not just general vampire tropes. Like that exact guy.

[horizon nowhere]

I feel like if the name Evoker is true then it probably does not hold any importance. I think it's a dragon power class. You "evoke" the power of dragons.

I mean I would think/hope it would just mean some iteration of a dragon power class as opposed to some sort of time mage.