Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Izalla]

Fear of missing out, one of the standard incentives for getting people to do stuff these days.

Ah I gotcha, thank you!

[Das Thora]

Lets see if we can do without ~10-30 pages of "i told you so", "i knew it", "haha you look stupid now" during/after the announcement this year.

Who am I kidding, this year is probably going to be worse than others.

I for one always knew the Dragon Isles were the ancestral home of the furbolg, that the new class was going to be troubadour (steampunk bards with necromancer spells) and that the garrison was returning.

[horizon nowhere]

Lets see if we can do without ~10-30 pages of "i told you so", "i knew it", "haha you look stupid now" during/after the announcement this year.

Who am I kidding, this year is probably going to be worse than others.

This for sure, I would count on it being bad.

[Syegfryed]

Lets see if we can do without ~10-30 pages of "i told you so", "i knew it", "haha you look stupid now" during/after the announcement this year.

Who am I kidding, this year is probably going to be worse than others.

To be fair, i think some cases are well deserved, for those saying things like: '"x thing WILL NEVER HAPPEN", by now people should know that a lot of things are possible.

[Wangming]

Hmm... I'm kinda worried about going into the future because it writes Blizzard into a corner with things that "have to happen in the future". We saw this with Son of the Wolf; everyone's now speculating about Old Anduin and it's making things confusing.

I would only be okay with time-traveling into the future if they clarify that it's only one possible timeline and not what's definitely going to happen. A bit like Visions of N'Zoth I guess.

It could be presented as the bad future we have to prevent. Like in Shadowbringers.

[Izalla]

I for one always knew the Dragon Isles were the ancestral home of the furbolg, that the new class was going to be troubadour (steampunk bards with necromancer spells) and that the garrison was returning.

I know you're joking overall but I would enjoy more furbolg stuff that isn't them corrupted and crazy or just an offshoot of night elf stories

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It could be presented as the bad future we have to prevent. Like in Shadowbringers.

Cataclysm 2.0 indeed.

Also I will never forgive them for wasting the Well of Eternity raid on that tiny dungeon where the Well is just a little green pond.

[Marlamin]

To be fair, i think some cases are well deserved, for those saying things like: '"x thing WILL NEVER HAPPEN", by now people should know that a lot of things are possible.

Yeah, probably. But I think it's only fair if those targeted have been shitting on others purely for believing or hoping in something being the case. I've seen enough of that kind of toxic behavior over the years and it is pretty much why I no longer take any stances on leaks whatsoever (unless it says the Hearthstone Tavern is coming in which case it is definitely 100% real and true and not fake).

[Wangming]

Cataclysm 2.0 indeed.

Also I will never forgive them for wasting the Well of Eternity raid on that tiny dungeon where the Well is just a little green pond.

They promised it to be a raid. It should have been a raid.

At least they had a second chance and try with Suramar, the Nighthold and the Nightwell.

[Nymrohd]

They promised it to be a raid. It should have been a raid.

At least they had a second chance and try with Suramar, the Nighthold and the Nightwell.

Should either have been an extra tier that was about acquiring the Dragon Soul or should have been part of the Dragon Soul raid itself.

[AngerFork]

Yeah, probably. But I think it's only fair if those targeted have been shitting on others purely for believing or hoping in something being the case. I've seen enough of that kind of toxic behavior over the years and it is pretty much why I no longer take any stances on leaks whatsoever (unless it says the Hearthstone Tavern is coming in which case it is definitely 100% real and true and not fake).

I'm honestly a bit disappointed at the lack of leaks I've seen using the Hearthstone Tavern. It's a known asset that would play well with so many concepts, yet it has just been ignored thus far.

[Izalla]

I'm honestly a bit disappointed at the lack of leaks I've seen using the Hearthstone Tavern. It's a known asset that would play well with so many concepts, yet it has just been ignored thus far.

Guys I just had it leaked to me by my uncle at Blizzard that the Hearthstone Tavern is being added in the near future! I can't tell you anything else though because it would compromise his identity.

Come back to this post when it is added and marvel at my connections!

[AngerFork]

Guys I just had it leaked to me by my uncle at Blizzard that the Hearthstone Tavern is being added in the near future! I can't tell you anything else though because it would compromise his identity.

Come back to this post when it is added and marvel at my connections!

Finally, a real leak has come to us! Hooray!!

[cone of cold]

You must not play healers if you think that's how healing specs are. By that logic, all DPS specs play the same because you target something and damage it.

Almost all DPS specs do play the same. All casters play the same and all melee dps play the same. It's essentially always the same thing. Make sure buffs are up on you, like Slice and Dice, at all times, make sure dots are on the enemy at all times, like Moonfire, Incinerate, Rip, Rupture. Then use big attacks with big cooldowns on cooldown, try to line them up with other cooldowns, then use your filler ability to build up a resource and then dump it with your spender ability. Tons of classes have resource systems with different names and differently colored bars, that all essentially work the same way. Maelstrom Power, Fury, Rage, Insanity. Even Combo Points and Holy Power. Doesn't matter if an ability generates 1 out of 5 combo points or 20 out of 100 Rage. You build up a resource and then spend it. The difference is in the visual to trick you into believing you are doing something different. The only difference is Energy and Focus regenerating on their own, but even that doesn't lead to any other playstyle. You still have your builders and spenders. You have an attack to build up Combo Points and then you dump them with other attacks.

Everything unique from classes has been stripped away over the years. The differences are minor. Maybe your class has one dot, maybe your class has three. Maybe you have a buff, maybe you don't. But they all feel the same to play. Spam attack to build up resource, dump resource, and hit buttons when they light up. Play whack-a-mole every now and then.

[Wangming]

Guys I just had it leaked to me by my uncle at Blizzard that the Hearthstone Tavern is being added in the near future! I can't tell you anything else though because it would compromise his identity.

Come back to this post when it is added and marvel at my connections!

Ahh the true leak. Blizzard must be in panic mode.

[Marlamin]

Ahh the true leak. Blizzard must be in panic mode.

Definitely a "break in case of emergency" type situation we have here.

[Wangming]

Almost all DPS specs do play the same. All casters play the same and all melee dps play the same. It's essentially always the same thing. Make sure buffs are up on you, like Slice and Dice, at all times, make sure dots are on the enemy at all times, like Moonfire, Incinerate, Rip, Rupture. Then use big attacks with big cooldowns on cooldown, try to line them up with other cooldowns, then use your filler ability to build up a resource and then dump it with your spender ability. Tons of classes have resource systems with different names and differently colored bars, that all essentially work the same way. Maelstrom Power, Fury, Rage, Insanity. Even combo points and holy power. Doesn't matter if an ability generates 1 out of 5 combo points or 20 out of 100 Rage. You build up a resource and then spend it. The difference is in the visual to trick you into believing you are doing something different.

Everything unique from classes has been stripped away over the years. The differences are minor. Maybe your class has one dot, maybe your class has three. Maybe you have a buff, maybe you don't. But they all feel the same to play. Spam attack to build up resource, dump resource, and hit buttons when they light up. Play whack-a-mole every now and then.

That is something I fealt and hated for so long. There is so little difference in how the classes play.

[Lady Atia]

Hmm... I'm kinda worried about going into the future because it writes Blizzard into a corner with things that "have to happen in the future". We saw this with Son of the Wolf; everyone's now speculating about Old Anduin and it's making things confusing.

I would only be okay with time-traveling into the future if they clarify that it's only one possible timeline and not what's definitely going to happen. A bit like Visions of N'Zoth I guess.

Anduin is in the Maw with Sylvanas now, and time works differently there. It's totally possible that Andy will be old once we get him, Sylvanas, Nathanos and Tyrande's Owl back.

[Izalla]

Almost all DPS specs do play the same. All casters play the same and all melee dps play the same. It's essentially always the same thing. Make sure buffs are up on you, like Slice and Dice, at all times, make sure dots are on the enemy at all times, like Moonfire, Incinerate, Rip, Rupture. Then use big attacks with big cooldowns on cooldown, try to line them up with other cooldowns, then use your filler ability to build up a resource and then dump it with your spender ability. Tons of classes have resource systems with different names and differently colored bars, that all essentially work the same way. Maelstrom Power, Fury, Rage, Insanity. Even combo points and holy power. Doesn't matter if an ability generates 1 out of 5 combo points or 20 out of 100 Rage. You build up a resource and then spend it. The difference is in the visual to trick you into believing you are doing something different.

Everything unique from classes has been stripped away over the years. The differences are minor. Maybe your class has one dot, maybe your class has three. Maybe you have a buff, maybe you don't. But they all feel the same to play. Spam attack to build up resource, dump resource, and hit buttons when they light up. Play whack-a-mole every now and then.

I really liked the way paladin tank in Wrath weaved the abilities together on timers so it all flowed really well. Is anything still like this? I haven't played all the specs in Shadowlands and I don't remember anything being this way in recent years.

[Wangming]

Definitely a "break in case of emergency" type situation we have here.

What is in it? A gun? A bottle of chloroform? A suitcase filled with cash? Blackmail material? A phone with CIA agents on speed dial?

[Nymrohd]

That is something I fealt and hated for so long. There is so little difference in how the classes play.

Eh I don't think you can have that much variety in the base gameplay. You can in flavour elements (soulshards, poisons, quivers)