Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Wangming]

Sure just figure out how to give me mind control powers so I can get the Blizz devs to make it haha

You've got a deal.

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While it may be a decent template for a dragonknight class or something like that, at the end of the day it's another melee class. It would be nice of we'd get a ranged class for a change (instead of losing them).

Agreed. We need more ranged classes.

[Hypester]

I just hope the human houses are for this expansion and not one in 20000 years.

[Shampro]

Time doesn't flow any different in the Shadowlands.

Souls in there simply perceive time differently.

Hmm More or less, even in the new Novel Zovaal tells Sylvanas in their first meeting that if she doesn't hurry back she could end up returning to a body only made of bones due to time in the SL / Maw being completely whack. There's basically no sense of time, its' not really that it's slower or faster.

[Kiria]

Oh I love Mechagon's mechanics. I could not care less about Mechagnomes or the islands aesthetics, but the systems were top notch. My ideal world revamp would be implementing systems like it across the world to give life and reason to visit zones again. The rotating guests, public work projects, the "Mechagon Tinkering" sub-profession, all fantastic things that I would have loved to see used more in world design. Contrasting with things like Nazjatars world events and vignettes, I felt 8.2 was the absolute height of the games design for outdoor zones, and was thoroughly disappointed in 8.3 and everything after.

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Yeah, you know what, that is a good point. I never really factored how the actual impact on the BfA major allies was not arbitrarily kept equal.

You may have loved Mechagon but I absolutely abhored it, I most definitely prefered Nazjatar.

I hope to never see another Gnome related place again that you are forced to go to and sped copious amounts of time doing.

[Nightshade711]

Oh I love Mechagon's mechanics. I could not care less about Mechagnomes or the islands aesthetics, but the systems were top notch. My ideal world revamp would be implementing systems like it across the world to give life and reason to visit zones again. The rotating guests, public work projects, the "Mechagon Tinkering" sub-profession, all fantastic things that I would have loved to see used more in world design. Contrasting with things like Nazjatars world events and vignettes, I felt 8.2 was the absolute height of the games design for outdoor zones, and was thoroughly disappointed in 8.3 and everything after.

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Yeah, you know what, that is a good point. I never really factored how the actual impact on the BfA major allies was not arbitrarily kept equal.

Agreed. Systems wise Mechagon has to be one of my favorite zones.
Would hope we could get something similar next expansion.

[NikolaiShade]

This prediction thing sounds funny, I'll write down mine

Theme
What I Want: Dragons & Dragon Isles
What I'll Get: Dragons as a side/initial plot then Light and Turalyon

New Races
What I Want: Drakonids and more customizations for existing races
What I'll Get: Nothing

New Class
What I Want: Dragonsworn and class skins
What I'll Get: No new class

Main Characters
What I Want: Murozond/Nozdormu, Alexstrasza, Chromie, Calia, Tyrande
What I'll Get: Bane, Malfurion, Turalyon and Thrall.

New Features
What I Want: Paragon Point system you carry over in the next xpack
What I'll Get: Dragonflights as Covenants, Heart of Azeroth revamp

[Polybius]

The Classes wouldnt end up this bad if Blizzard didnt intentionally butcher them starting from WoD and going specifically into Legion with their horrible Spec focus.

You're making it sound like endgame content suffers because there is not enough varied casual content? Currently you can do pet battles, transmog farming, alt leveling, professions and all the available endgame content like PvP, BGs, Arenas, Raids and Dungeons aswell as the Covenants. I dont really see why there needs to be more.

The problem is that the endgame content is straight up shit. Who enjoys running into the Maw every day, Korthia, Torghast, the horrible Legendaries exactly? And around that you have poor Class design, and to top it off, PvP is an absolute nightmare that is by now completly ignored by Blizzard and the Raids and Dungeons are as dull as ever.

And you want to tell me, this is fixxed by housing and NPC dating, and similiar things like that?

Hot take, but classes were fine in WoD. Some specs improved in Legion. Spell effects were updated, and specs were reworked to make talents less of a nightmare to balance.

I do miss MoP hunter, so i’ll say MoP-Legion was a great time for them to refine classes, but they got neutered in BfA, with some specs unrecognizable in SL. They didn’t even have to reinvent the wheel.

[Sondrelk]

Agreed. Systems wise Mechagon has to be one of my favorite zones.
Would hope we could get something similar next expansion.

Zereth Mortis is extremely similar to Mechagon really.
It has a similar crafting system. It has a similar setup with unique rares. Same combination of respawning and unique treasures.

I almost wonder whether ZM fails in that regard because it might be too large. Mechagon is nice and compact with everything but that one island close by. In ZM meanwhile everything is quite far apart with all the dead space.

[Lady Atia]

Zereth Mortis is extremely similar to Mechagon really.
It has a similar crafting system. It has a similar setup with unique rares. Same combination of respawning and unique treasures.

I almost wonder whether ZM fails in that regard because it might be too large. Mechagon is nice and compact with everything but that one island close by. In ZM meanwhile everything is quite far apart with all the dead space.

No, that's the good thing about Zereth Mortis - it feels like a zone, not like tiny Mechagon which felt like an gnome adventure theme park. Also Zereth Mortis has a tons of new mounts while Mechagon only had ... 3 or so?

ZM is thousand times better than boring Mechagon (which felt btw horrible without flying, unlike ZM).

[Niwes]

I'd be more than happy if the new class was just a mail-wearing copy-paste of Dragoons from FFXIV.

sounds like you have some proof of there being a new class at all ?

oh, and btw: just 1 another day… let the disappointment begin!

edit:
announcement minute1: „no new class“. bam!

[Alanar]

It's as interesting as vampire stuff, so not at all.

Ye the dragon stuff seems boring as fuck tbh.

[Niwes]

This prediction thing sounds funny, I'll write down mine

Theme
What I Want: Dragons & Dragon Isles
What I'll Get: Dragons as a side/initial plot then Light and Turalyon

New Races
What I Want: Drakonids and more customizations for existing races
What I'll Get: Nothing

New Class
What I Want: Dragonsworn and class skins
What I'll Get: No new class

Main Characters
What I Want: Murozond/Nozdormu, Alexstrasza, Chromie, Calia, Tyrande
What I'll Get: Bane, Malfurion, Turalyon and Thrall.

New Features
What I Want: Paragon Point system you carry over in the next xpack
What I'll Get: Dragonflights as Covenants, Heart of Azeroth revamp

it seems… you want…. dragons.

[ercarp]

sounds like you have some proof of there being a new class at all ?

No proof, just that it's been 6 years (potentially 7 by the time 10.0 releases if there's still no class) since they added a new class to the game. I think it would be good to add one now if they want to win back any of the players they lost with BfA and SL.

[Makabreska]

Oof, on reveal day this thread will turn into a Twitch Chat when it comes to message speed. Hype did not spare me at all, am stocked af for the 19th.

[Niwes]

Ye the dragon stuff seems boring as fuck tbh.

yep, get a bit same feeling in my guts.

while many of us don’t want another halfassed outer space like expansion, we at the same time don’t want boring dragons. 17 years of wow were full of dragon stuff. i would say wow had enough dragons. so…

[Raetary]

1 day, 23 hours, 23 minutes and 7 seconds left to go.

[NikolaiShade]

it seems… you want…. dragons.

yes and no, I'd like an expack like Legion were the main theme is the same for the whole ride, being it Dragonflight (maybe) I expect dragons

[Alanar]

I'm not really interested in it either but if they make a new class I will be happy to try it out and see if it is fun. It's just not something on my personal wish list or anything that speaks to me really, and I don't look at any of the available races and go "man why can't I be an orc dragon?" the way I look at other races and go "man why can't I be an X Y?"

Same here, Its just isnt interestring to me. The talks about wanting a dragonform with any race like dragons just sounds lame to me, but to each and their own.

Just wait for the kyrian recolors with more spikes as cloaks. Its just not going to be cool..

[Buliwyf the Omen]

Theme
What I Want: Dragons &/ Tinkers
What I'll Get: Only Dragons

New Races
What I Want: Something like Demon Hunter but with dragon scales, also horns, a tail, fangs, claws for the core races
What I'll Get: Probably the Drakonid, but thats cool too

New Class
What I Want: Tinker or Dragonsworn
What I'll Get: Dragonsworn without Dragonform

Main Characters
What I Want: Dont really care aslong as its neither Sylvanas or Anduin
What I'll Get: Sylvans and Anduin in one shape or another

New Features
What I Want: A roguelike/lite from a dev team that actually played something like Binding of Isaac or equivalent
What I'll Get: Aspect Power and another Covenant/Heart of Azeroth Grind

[Raetary]

To add my own Bingo card since i didn't do it earlier: