Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[cone of cold]

Less popular? I barely ever see a Mechagnome, nobody cares about them. Besides, they're pretty much just Gnomes anyway.

People would've cared about Ankoan even less. Ugly fishfaces.

[Raetary]

People would've cared about Ankoan even less. Ugly fishfaces.

I'd take the fierce and rebelious samurai fishman any day over cyborg diaper gnomes.

[cone of cold]

I'd take the fierce and rebelious samurai fishman any day over cyborg diaper gnomes.

Most people wouldn't.

[Wangming]

I still want Snake Bois dammit!

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I always wondered, how could Naga join one of the factions? I guess it would have to be the faction among them that opposes Azshara and has allied with Neptulon against the Old Gods? In my dream version of WoW, Illidari would have been a faction and I always wondered how the Naga lore could develop to make them turn on Azshara (especially Vashj)

In my fake leak from a few months back the playable Naga were a splinter group that believed that Illidan also sank with them and was Nagafied, he is just hiding somewhere. And they worship him instead of Azshara. They join the Horde and seek help when Azshara comes and takes control of them.

[Raetary]

Most people wouldn't.

*snort* Sure.

[Polybius]

Not really, or they would've brought them as an Allied Race. Vulpera had a good reception, and they did just that with them.

If anything they'll be minor details ala Night Elf black eyes. They're not done with character customizations just yet.

[SniperCT]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

[Wangming]

If anything they'll be minor details ala Night Elf black eyes. They're not done with character customizations just yet.

They better not. We need more options. We always need more options.

[Eurothemist]

Cautiously optimistic / excited for Tuesday

[Malorne the White Stag]

They better not. We need more options. We always need more options.

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

[Shadochi]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

I mean even for Zandalari and KT its a question mark since they are just members/different clan of another race, similar to Dark Iron and Maghar.

[SniperCT]

I mean even for Zandalari and KT its a question mark since they are just members/different clan of another race, similar to Dark Iron and Maghar.

True, but I feel like their general size/shape/models are sufficiently different enough to be a separate race, but generally close enough that the allied race concept works for them. Zandalari don't use the same troll models and KT doesn't use the same human models.

Whereas for example both LF and Mechagnome would work really well mechanically and lore wise as customization options.

Even Mag'har, dark iron, etc use the same models/rigs as their regular orc and dwarf counterparts.

[boyzma]

nah not really. but if you are here since a while you will realize that many long term wow players are not that hyped this time and the hopes are not that high. BfA and SL made this possible.

a lot of us don’t take this all any longer that serious, because of some repetitive disappointments in the younger past.

Who are you to talk for people? "Many long term wow players" got source? "A lot of us" who is us? Got a source? Quit spewing garbage...if YOU think that way then say you...don't say us and we.

[Makabreska]

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

I don't think we will ever get a body sliders of any type. Too much work with making all that gear fit.

[ercarp]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

Agree with most of this except that I would say KT were the only worthwhile Allied Race they added. Everything else felt half-assed.

I was never too big of a fan of recycling old skeletons for ARs (even though that was "the point") because part of the excitement of getting a new race was seeing what their animations looked like. How do they walk? How do they run? Do they do a weird spinny thing when they jump?

Reusing old skeletons only works for races like the Dark Iron Dwarves that are genuine "sub-races". But slapping old skeletons on completely new races like Vulpera, Zandalari, or Nightborne and calling them "Allied Races" felt lazy to me.

[Wangming]

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

Damn straight we do.

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

Still wish we could’ve gotten the skinny models for Kul Tirans.

But here’s hoping that if we get a dragon-based race like Drakonids we could at least get one more body type.
Like one being the big bulky one obviously, and the second being a skinnier model like DnD kobolds or Dragonmen from cata though with a new skeleton.
(Doubt it’ll happen though.)

[Wangming]

Who are you to talk for people? "Many long term wow players" got source? "A lot of us" who is us? Got a source? Quit spewing garbage...if YOU think that way then say you...don't say us and we.

A lot of us probably means "My guild"

[Nymrohd]

Who are you to talk for people? "Many long term wow players" got source? "A lot of us" who is us? Got a source? Quit spewing garbage...if YOU think that way then say you...don't say us and we.

I am not sure he even plays the game.

[NikolaiShade]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

liked the Allied Race concept, agree on the neutral Nightborne, no (logic) reason why they sould have joined one faction instead of the other, missed opportunity imo