Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Shadochi]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

I mean even for Zandalari and KT its a question mark since they are just members/different clan of another race, similar to Dark Iron and Maghar.

[SniperCT]

I mean even for Zandalari and KT its a question mark since they are just members/different clan of another race, similar to Dark Iron and Maghar.

True, but I feel like their general size/shape/models are sufficiently different enough to be a separate race, but generally close enough that the allied race concept works for them. Zandalari don't use the same troll models and KT doesn't use the same human models.

Whereas for example both LF and Mechagnome would work really well mechanically and lore wise as customization options.

Even Mag'har, dark iron, etc use the same models/rigs as their regular orc and dwarf counterparts.

[boyzma]

nah not really. but if you are here since a while you will realize that many long term wow players are not that hyped this time and the hopes are not that high. BfA and SL made this possible.

a lot of us don’t take this all any longer that serious, because of some repetitive disappointments in the younger past.

Who are you to talk for people? "Many long term wow players" got source? "A lot of us" who is us? Got a source? Quit spewing garbage...if YOU think that way then say you...don't say us and we.

[Makabreska]

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

I don't think we will ever get a body sliders of any type. Too much work with making all that gear fit.

[ercarp]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

Agree with most of this except that I would say KT were the only worthwhile Allied Race they added. Everything else felt half-assed.

I was never too big of a fan of recycling old skeletons for ARs (even though that was "the point") because part of the excitement of getting a new race was seeing what their animations looked like. How do they walk? How do they run? Do they do a weird spinny thing when they jump?

Reusing old skeletons only works for races like the Dark Iron Dwarves that are genuine "sub-races". But slapping old skeletons on completely new races like Vulpera, Zandalari, or Nightborne and calling them "Allied Races" felt lazy to me.

[Wangming]

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

Damn straight we do.

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, we need the Gallywix body option for goblins.

Still wish we could’ve gotten the skinny models for Kul Tirans.

But here’s hoping that if we get a dragon-based race like Drakonids we could at least get one more body type.
Like one being the big bulky one obviously, and the second being a skinnier model like DnD kobolds or Dragonmen from cata though with a new skeleton.
(Doubt it’ll happen though.)

[Wangming]

Who are you to talk for people? "Many long term wow players" got source? "A lot of us" who is us? Got a source? Quit spewing garbage...if YOU think that way then say you...don't say us and we.

A lot of us probably means "My guild"

[Nymrohd]

Who are you to talk for people? "Many long term wow players" got source? "A lot of us" who is us? Got a source? Quit spewing garbage...if YOU think that way then say you...don't say us and we.

I am not sure he even plays the game.

[NikolaiShade]

mechagnomes were the tipping point where I realized allied races was a stupid concept and needed to be abandoned lol

At this point I'd rather return to the 'new race or two every other expansion' thing where that race can actually be focused on and get a decent level of customization to start with.

Especially when so many of them could have simply been customization for existing races instead.

Nightborne, KT, Zandalari and Vulpera are the ones that could have been races (+velf on a technicality being an alliance version of a horde race), the rest should have been customization options.

ETA: Also I still think NB should have been neutral.

liked the Allied Race concept, agree on the neutral Nightborne, no (logic) reason why they sould have joined one faction instead of the other, missed opportunity imo

[Catastrophy349]

Monday "leak" day?

[Revamp Man]

It was just a weird thing tbh. The guy even claimed to have insight as some others in these forums as well. Knowing what next expansion is.. and how much fun they had doing it. Without telling this spoiler forum directly whats up.

People are here exactly for that, so idk.

My favorite was the people saying “I’m the source for the guy from WoD and BfA leaks and I got it from a different source who got it from a different source so that guy getting legion almost entirely wrong just means he’s more legit”

[Cosmic Janitor]

So I checked my sources :

New dragonflight :
- White
- Black revamped with wrathion
- Morally gray
- Dragonriders (dragons on dragons)

You'd have a better chance to get a pink dragon flight with penises for heads.

[Nymrohd]

You'd have a better chance to get a pink dragon flight with penises for heads.

Anyone wants to bet that already exists somewhere?

[Cosmic Janitor]

Anyone wants to bet that already exists somewhere?

I certainly wouldn't bet against it, that's like betting on 00 thrice in a row.

[Hitei]

You'd have a better chance to get a pink dragon flight with penises for heads.

A white dragonflight is entirely possible, it just won't be called "white dragonflight". It'd be some other synonym, just like the yellow flight isn't called the "yellow" dragonflight, it's called the "bronze flight".

Alabaster, Pearlescent, Silver, Ashen, Shadeless, Pale, Bone, Lunar, etc.

[SniperCT]

A white dragonflight is entirely possible, it just won't be called "white dragonflight". It'd be some other synonym, just like the yellow flight isn't called the "yellow" dragonflight, it's called the "bronze flight". Alabaster, Pearlescent, Silver, Ashen, Shadeless, Pale, Bone, Lunar, etc.

Man I'm not sure if 'Ashen' 'Lunar' or 'Silver' dragonflight sounds cooler

[huth]

True, but I feel like their general size/shape/models are sufficiently different enough to be a separate race, but generally close enough that the allied race concept works for them. Zandalari don't use the same troll models and KT doesn't use the same human models.

Whereas for example both LF and Mechagnome would work really well mechanically and lore wise as customization options.

Even Mag'har, dark iron, etc use the same models/rigs as their regular orc and dwarf counterparts.

I'd say despite technically being humans, Kul Tirans were actually the closest to a regular new race. They have a fully unique model and animations.

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Man I'm not sure if 'Ashen' 'Lunar' or 'Silver' dragonflight sounds cooler

Silver Flight of the ashen Moon?

[Sondrelk]

A white dragonflight is entirely possible, it just won't be called "white dragonflight". It'd be some other synonym, just like the yellow flight isn't called the "yellow" dragonflight, it's called the "bronze flight".

Alabaster, Pearlescent, Silver, Ashen, Shadeless, Pale, Bone, Lunar, etc.

We do already have the Albino dragon, so they already exist.

[huth]

We do already have the Albino dragon, so they already exist.

Albino more suggests a pigmentation issue than a flight, though.