Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Vakir]

I'm curious if it's worth redoing WoW's base UI when addons are so heavily used and a professional company will almost never compete with constantly iterating fans and enthusiasts.

Casual enough players that don't care - the "grandmas" being targeted as Ghostcrawler put it way back then - generally get the job done just fine with the current one. Even some "competitive" players are fine using it.

[KyleEverett]

I really really hope that we don't slideback to Wrath style talents. Classic is right there for that itch. While current talents have gotten stale, going back to the 5 points into a passive is not the route.

[Kohtra]

I'm curious if it's worth redoing WoW's base UI when addons are so heavily used and a professional company will almost never compete with constantly iterating fans and enthusiasts.

Casual enough players that don't care - the "grandmas" being targeted as Ghostcrawler put it way back then - generally get the job done just fine with the current one. Even some "competitive" players are fine using it.

Don't discount the marketing benefits of a new UI. WoW needs a makeover and a new beginning and Blizzard must know it. Showing off a new UI that they can use to say "look, we're bringing WoW into the modern era" would be huge.

[zeir]

90% sure there isnt a new class, and if there was it wouldnt be dragon fucking themed LOL

[Vakir]

Don't discount the marketing benefits of a new UI. WoW needs a makeover and a new beginning and Blizzard must know it. Showing off a new UI that they can use to say "look, we're bringing WoW into the modern era" would be huge.

That's fair, there is a marketing and optics element. Hopefully it didn't take too much attention from other things that can be spruced.

[horizon nowhere]

I'm curious if it's worth redoing WoW's base UI when addons are so heavily used and a professional company will almost never compete with constantly iterating fans and enthusiasts.

Casual enough players that don't care - the "grandmas" being targeted as Ghostcrawler put it way back then - generally get the job done just fine with the current one. Even some "competitive" players are fine using it.

I think it's probably time for a major UI update it's starting to look a bit dated. As others have pointed out it could also be why some Ui devs are so excited!

[therumblings]

90% sure there isnt a new class, and if there was it wouldnt be dragon fucking themed LOL

Why wouldn't the new class be dragon themed in a dragon expansion?

[boyzma]

I'm still baffled they picked a weekday in the middle of the afternoon for the east coast and morning for the west coast

Pretty easy really. Where is Blizzard HQ? West coast. Why should they get up super early to please one part of the world or stay up really late to please another? Being done near the normal daily resets/weekly maintenance times on the same day as usual....Taco Tuesday.

[horizon nowhere]

Why wouldn't the new class be dragon themed in a dragon expansion?

Blasphemy! D:

[Hitei]

The new UI comment is interesting, I haven't -really- seen it mentioned elsewhere other than that wowexdev Twitter account he mentioned at some point (of which I'm not sure if it's someone just squatting that username after it was deleted many years ago or if it is just also ScaleFace).

I say it is interesting because a while back in 2018 two of the people on the WoW UI team transferred to another project inside Blizz that they described as "old but new". I'm curious if that actually ends up being a new default UI for WoW. Granted it would also be a backwards/addon compatability nightmare, but it's still interesting to think about.

I assume it's just based on the current UI dev*'s tweet.

[Therougetitan]

Invest in Scaleface stock.

90% sure there isnt a new class, and if there was it wouldnt be dragon fucking themed LOL

You are gonna look dumb in a couple days. It is going to be super dragon themed.

[therumblings]

What if this is just an elaborate troll and all of the super old accounts posting the same thing are in on it

[Vakir]

Invest in Scaleface stock.

You are gonna look dumb in a couple days. It is going to be super dragon themed.

If it is, and he's correct, he's not representing it very well, that's all. The way it's been presented is very Arcane-adjacent and not necessarily draconic in theme. Hence the concern. People won't look dumb, the information wasn't being posited well in the first place.

[Marlamin]

I assume it's just based on the current UI dev*'s tweet.

Didn't spot that, definitely a possiblity as well! They could theoretically also both be referring to the same thing too, I guess. We'll see soon enough! I'm off to bed however, got to get some zzz's in before possible stuff starts happening.

[Therougetitan]

If it is, and he's correct, he's not representing it very well, that's all. The way it's been presented is very Arcane-adjacent and not necessarily draconic in theme. Hence the concern. People won't look dumb, the information wasn't being posited well in the first place.

They've mentioned the race and class are tied together. Dragons are also naturally magical.

[Ferlion]

I find it curious that people are wondering why a Dragon themed class would include something arcane adjacent when one of the Dragonflights is literally Arcane themed.

[Vakir]

They've mentioned the race and class are tied together. Dragons are also naturally magical.

Correct, but magic isn't intrinsically Arcane aligned. But it has been said to be specifically arcane-oriented, which invokes the idea of being more Bronze/Blue/Time/purple pewpew focused, which would be disappointing and not specifically draconic.

Again, if that turns out to be the case, the concern exists presently mostly because Scaleface didn't present the information with much detail, plays too coy, and has plenty of butchered English due to not being a native speaker.

I find it curious that people are wondering why a Dragon themed class would include something arcane adjacent when one of the Dragonflights is literally Arcane themed.

Because the implication was that it placed emphasis on that. Obviously if one or two of the specs only is Bronze/Blue themed for damage and/or time shenanigans, that's fine if they don't take too much from mages.

[Mferna]

36 more hours

[Therougetitan]

I find it curious that people are wondering why a Dragon themed class would include something arcane adjacent when one of the Dragonflights is literally Arcane themed.

^ this right here

[Pheraz]

I assume it's just based on the current UI dev*'s tweet.

I guess it's related to character customisation. I remember when he worked on the SL cust. he said something like "much more is possible" with the new tooling/backend work he had done/managed.
I can to totally see stuff like height sliders happening