Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[m4Zzo928]

I think the Alex picture and logo is basically confirmed at this point too. The R in World on that image is clearly using the new font that they have been posting with online in the past week or so. I was skeptical till I noticed that, but I'm pretty sure it came out way before they started using that font online.

Yea I forgot to mention that. It looks off to me. It just does for some reason. It doesn’t seem congruent to my eye from other Blizzard promotions. I could be wrong, but there’s something very distinct about seeing Blizzard art that I’m not getting here.

[Luck4]

This is just gold:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...are_repeating/



Though I would change the name of 11.0 to Twists of K'aresh, and 12.0 to Lightlords of Draenor.

[Raetary]

This is it folks.
It's the day before the day!

I like the candle-less kobold thing in the middle can I have the full image of him???

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/WKBQEE

[m4Zzo928]

Omg back to the Draenor. Freaking nightmare.

[horizon nowhere]

Omg back to the Draenor. Freaking nightmare.

I mean... yeah.

[Nymrohd]

The entire evoker concept given the necessary link to Dragons comes from Hearthstone and not D&D. While it will be a bit confusing to anyone familiar with D&D nomenclature, which truth be told has suffused western RPGs so may be linked to energy-based mostly battle magic to people who've never seen a PHB, the intent seems to be much closer to the concept of Invoke from Hearthstone.
In the relevant expansion, Galakrond comes back and spells that Invoke Galakrond are closely linked to dragons and empower the eventual transformation into Galakrond. THis is actually something that could mechanically be implemented in game. You could have either a resource bar or a number of CD on a short timer that are Invocations and each time you use it you build up charge. When you use your Dragon Form major cooldown perhaps its effect could be tied to how many charges you have. Think of something like the Holy Word System that is now unique to Holy Priests.

[FossilFree]

Yea I forgot to mention that. It looks off to me. It just does for some reason. It doesn’t seem congruent to my eye from other Blizzard promotions. I could be wrong, but there’s something very distinct about seeing Blizzard art that I’m not getting here.

I think what made it seem fake at first is the fact that there is a monitor in the picture. I'm so conditioned by fake leaks with angled shots of monitors in poorly-lit rooms to automatically think something like that is fake .

[Das Thora]

Doesn't really matter? The selling point of a class isn't in the recognizability of its name, but what it actually is No one saw the recent trend of JRPGs using names like "Astrologer" and decided "wow that's awful why isn't it named 'Wizard', I'll never play that". If they added (tinker) to the game but called it "Machinist" because they didn't like how silly Tinker sounds, no one would be confused. They'd see a tech class with robots and mechsuits or whatever, and decide if they want to play it or not.

If they announce an "Evoker" and its a mail caster turning into drakes and using sand breath and other dragon shit, people will go "Oh it's like a dragon based class" and that will be that, not get hung up on the fact that Evoker isn't a base D&D class or that NPCs with that in their name haven't been dragon-based in the past.

I dunno, if an MMO I wasn't currently playing announced a class with a name I recognized and knew I liked that concept of (Necromancer, Bard, etc) or at least was descriptive like Astrologer is in your example, I might look into it. I wouldn't look into a class of a game I'm not currently playing that was practically called Glogoobigowjqalla for all I'm concerned.

ESO's Morrowind got attention because of Morrowind, not because of a class called Warden which is entirely undescriptive. Meanwhile Necromancer got attention from people who weren't even playing ESO.

[Luck4]

Omg back to the Draenor. Freaking nightmare.

While I agree with this, I'm 100% sure, it's not off the cards.

[KayRule]

Also famously back in 2012 Blizzard and Valve settled out of court over a massive lawsuit about Dota. Blizzard dropped the name Dota Allstars from what became HotS, and in exchange Valve made several changes to characters who were blatantly evocative of Warcraft and Diablo characters. Windrunner became Windranger, Brewmaster got a color change and removed mention of Pandaria from his tooltip, Skeleton King became Ostarion the Wraith King, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if some agreements made far back then lead to the choice of Evoker over Invoker - if the hypothetical class were to be real - especially since Invoker is one of the most iconic heroes in DotA and Dota 2.

[Cosmic Janitor]

This is just gold:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...are_repeating/

https://i.imgur.com/5veJlxW.png

Though I would change the name of 11.0 to Twists of K'aresh, and 12.0 to Lightlords of Draenor.

The order of WoD and Legion being wrong bothers me alot more than it should. I also find it kinda funny how you can tell exactly where everything went wrong, just by looking at the cover (the SL one is wrong though, weird oversight).

[Nymrohd]

Thx for answering.

I'm not against Dragons Isles, and I also believe it's coming. I just think the scope is debatable. Anyway, we're gonna find out soon.

I mean Dragon Isles could be a full continent or it could just be an endgame Suramar-like zone that is also tied to partial revamps. And the revamps could be full, partial but in a single continent (Lordaeron and/or Quel'thalas) or just specific zones in the map that are tied to dragons (e.g. Burning Steppes (black), Feralas (green), Tanaris (bronze), Wetlands (red), Winterspring (blue) )

[Das Thora]

Omg back to the Draenor. Freaking nightmare.

If we went to Draenor and never went back to Azeroth, instead seeing new Draenor continents and other new worlds like K'aresh, I'd be fine with that.

[m4Zzo928]

I think what made it seem fake at first is the fact that there is a monitor in the picture. I'm so conditioned by fake leaks with angled shots of monitors in poorly-lit rooms to automatically think something like that is fake .

Oh yea, the “I pulled out my phone, and only had a 1 second window to take the poorest possible quality pic” always at the same angle. To me the leaked art doesn’t quite look like Blizzard art, but maybe it is and I’m just making the reveal more spicy for myself, but at the same time I really do think it could be something we’re not expecting completely.

[Fahrad Wagner]

More fuel to the hype train my love!!!

[m4Zzo928]

If we went to Draenor and never went back to Azeroth, instead seeing new Draenor continents and other new worlds like K'aresh, I'd be fine with that.

I wouldn’t mind it either, under two conditions. Azeroth gets blown up, and it’s an actual good expansion. Warlords wasn’t my favorite.

[KayRule]

I mean Dragon Isles could be a full continent or it could just be an endgame Suramar-like zone that is also tied to partial revamps. And the revamps could be full, partial but in a single continent (Lordaeron and/or Quel'thalas) or just specific zones in the map that are tied to dragons (e.g. Burning Steppes (black), Feralas (green), Tanaris (bronze), Wetlands (red), Winterspring (blue) )

I really don't understand why there's been this large apprehension by fans for Dragon Isles to be the next continent. From the first mentions in BfA to the clear signals in Exploring Kalimdor, every step people keep hoping it's just an endgame zone (or back in BfA, a Island Expedition Island ). It just sticks out to me as we've gotten closer and closer and it's all but basically a foregone conclusion, alot of people don't want Dragon Isles to be "the" continent.

[Scaleface]

dragonflight name
evoker is not confirmed because the "trustworthy" leaker got more wrong than he did right when he "leaked" legion and the people claiming to be his source also have connections to jericho who was another that got leak guesses but lost credibility 4 years ago

It is last post from me about Legion stuff and things between Legion and Dragonflight, but:

Legion was just a description of what we saw "inside". Maybe then some translation errors broke in and it turned out a little weird - but the description was based on the snippets of the trailer and cutscenes that were shown. I don't want to come back to it anymore, but wasn't it enough that I wrote about it (and not only me) before gamescom? And how about Diablo 4? Okay we can say "anyone can predict that".

As I described in my guessing post that we didn't have much information after the legion. Somewhere in the post there was a 4chan interview with the game developer - many of his answers were right and some were not. It's not that he lied - just the details and priorities have changed.

Developers don't just work on one add-on that comes next, they have X projects that are linked and prioritized during the work.

For example, I can say that in one of today's (previous posts) there was also a hint about the mobile game project The name of the mobile game project is so strange that I am almost sure that it can be a trick for informants to track them down ... On the other hand, it is accessed by hundreds of industry people and "inside" employees. This is why I rather omit it in my posts and focus only on WORLD of warcraft, not WARCRAFT: XXXXXXXX XXXXXX (the number X corresponds to the name of the project).

Sorry for misstranslation

Of course, believe or not - it can be as someone said "next level of trolling" which we will know tomorrow if it is, or not.

[Luck4]

Still hoping for a world revamp...

[Nymrohd]

I dunno, if an MMO I wasn't currently playing announced a class with a name I recognized and knew I liked that concept of (Necromancer, Bard, etc) or at least was descriptive like Astrologer is in your example, I might look into it. I wouldn't look into a class of a game I'm not currently playing that was practically called Glogoobigowjqalla for all I'm concerned.

ESO's Morrowind got attention because of Morrowind, not because of a class called Warden which is entirely undescriptive. Meanwhile Necromancer got attention from people who weren't even playing ESO.

A class' name is the starting point of its branding. It needs to communicate what the class does. Most people would either not know what an evoker is or would expect an energy mage. Now WoW has class trials and if the class is a hero class it will have a starting experience as well which can do most of the job but you still need a reason to even try it.

And yeah ESO's warden never made sense. And while I get it was released with Morrowwind, the fact that they themed almost all the animal summoning spells after the local creatures with the exception of the bear was imo a very bad call. They should have shipped it together with accessible cosmetics so people could reskin it to fit Bosmer and Bretons (both of which have very prominent Warden cultures) instead of just Argonians and Dunmer.