1. #43681
    Quote Originally Posted by Das Momo View Post
    They made Shadowlands without Dark Rangers or Necromancers.
    Yeah but that's different than adding a new class and it not being at least somewhat related to the expansion.

  2. #43682
    Quote Originally Posted by Das Momo View Post
    They made Shadowlands without Dark Rangers or Necromancers.
    Right, but this was the assumption they'll have a new class. My statement was more "if they add a new class, it's not going to *not* fit into the theme of the expansion." So if this "Evoker" is real, all the arcane murmurings are probably related to Time and/or Blue Dragons, if they're even true.

    I agree not having Necros or DRs with Shadowlands was a shit move, but it could be the current dev team doesn't seem enough uniqueness in them. (Which is a shame, and definitely not ideal, but here we are.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    So, they scheduled maintenance on Tuesday from 8:00 AM to 11:00 AM, and the announcement will be at 9:00 AM. Now, this weird timing makes sense.

    I was hoping for the announcement to be at 2:00 PM or later, so I could watch it live. It's gonna be tough avoiding all the spoilers before I can watch it six hours later.

    I'm thinking about leaving my phone at home...
    9 am PDT is already 00:00 on April 20 here. The later the more exhausting for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    pro-tip: before you use your whiteknightpowercharge cooldown, you should do 3 things:

    - think about why i NOT said „all players“
    - think about why i NOT said „most players“
    - read MMOC for the last 2-3 years, count the negative posts, and look at the user badges.

    if you then tell me, what exactly is wrong with my statement above, i will listen.

    but maybe i should it write that way, next time:

    „to me it seems there are more than maybe 100 and less than maybe 300k peoples out there, that do not like the game design of wow, of the last few years. we, the people i described in the first statement, are not happy… and for us, the people i described in the first statement, it is a disappointment…“

    is this better ?
    Oh much better. Be sure you do that.

  5. #43685
    Talent tree don't affect me, because I always take passives or ability replacers; I'd still prefer seven or eight powerful choices over fifty insignificant ones, though.
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  6. #43686
    Quote Originally Posted by Das Momo View Post
    They made Shadowlands without Dark Rangers or Necromancers.
    Because you can already play Hunter and Death Knight

  7. #43687
    Evoker, a cloth caster with dragon and time-themed abilities
    I have good news everybody: This is already a class that exists in WoW.

  8. #43688
    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Because you can already play Hunter and Death Knight
    *eye twitch*

  9. #43689
    Quote Originally Posted by Blayze View Post
    Talent tree don't affect me, because I always take passives or ability replacers; I'd still prefer seven or eight powerful choices over fifty insignificant ones, though.
    What if there are fifty medium level choices? I'm sure there will still be cookie cutter builds though. There are in every game like PoE.

  10. #43690
    i was thinking about leakers from the past and found my DM with jericho

    interestingly enough this super leaker from the past claims that galakaros was the leak
    now the more interesting part is a poster claiming to have been his source for the past was defending scaleface
    now it is also important to keep in mind jericho claimed to get the information from a direct source not a friend of a friend of a worker which is what that poster claimed to be
    so if you are having any issue with what is being leaked or presumed to be true ie class or talent system or anything

    we have nothing from any confirmed legit sources and im surprised we havent heard from towellie

  11. #43691
    Quote Originally Posted by Zankai27 View Post
    Right, but this was the assumption they'll have a new class. My statement was more "if they add a new class, it's not going to *not* fit into the theme of the expansion." So if this "Evoker" is real, all the arcane murmurings are probably related to Time and/or Blue Dragons, if they're even true.

    I agree not having Necros or DRs with Shadowlands was a shit move, but it could be the current dev team doesn't seem enough uniqueness in them. (Which is a shame, and definitely not ideal, but here we are.)
    I don't know why we'd assume 10.0 has to have a new class if 9.0 didn't.
    There hasn't been a pattern since Cata.

    TBC - 2 races
    WotLK - 1 class, new hairstyles
    Cata - 2 races
    MoP - 1 class, 1 race
    WoD - Graphics update to Pixar mode
    Legion - 1 class
    BFA - 1 race, 9 reskins and remodels
    SL - New hairstyles and faces

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRule View Post
    Because you can already play Hunter and Death Knight
    And you can play a warlock instead of a demon hunter.
    Last edited by Das Thora; 2022-04-18 at 05:24 AM.

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    Somewhat of a small detail, but if anyone had any doubt left about our Alexstrasza art being real, it does look like it uses this new thicker "world" font. Can tell in the straight R drop and thicker L point thingy.

  13. #43693
    Evokers being arcane-themed makes me think this expansion will actually be the Order cosmic force expansion. Sure, maybe we start out on Azeroth instead of going to some plane of order, because who wants a repeat of SL. Instead, it will be more like Legion, but with arcane in place of fel. We could even go to Elunaria in the final patch, kind of like going to Argus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    I have good news everybody: This is already a class that exists in WoW.
    I hate that I was eventually able to figure out you meant Mage.
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  15. #43695
    What’s with Evoker pushers?

    There’s simply no basis for the concept in WoWs narrative other than a handful of generically named NPCs… literally pulled from thin air with most thematic concepts already being expressed within the mage class…

    Thank goodness we’ll all know a bit more of what’s to come soon enough!

  16. #43696
    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    What’s with Evoker pushers?

    There’s simply no basis for the concept in WoWs narrative other than a handful of generically named NPCs… literally pulled from thin air with most thematic concepts already being expressed within the mage class…

    Thank goodness we’ll all know a bit more of what’s to come soon enough!
    because a leaker and his buddies said it is a thing

    also its fresh speculation instead of the constant debates we get where it inevitably gets derailed because people take their concepts as absolute facts

  17. #43697
    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Somewhat of a small detail, but if anyone had any doubt left about our Alexstrasza art being real, it does look like it uses this new thicker "world" font. Can tell in the straight R drop and thicker L point thingy.
    Few days late on that one.

  18. #43698
    Quote Originally Posted by Meow View Post
    9 am PDT is already 00:00 on April 20 here. The later the more exhausting for me.
    Yeah, nvm, I'm dumb, it's scheduled for the next day.

  19. #43699
    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    What’s with Evoker pushers?

    There’s simply no basis for the concept in WoWs narrative other than a handful of generically named NPCs… literally pulled from thin air with most thematic concepts already being expressed within the mage class…

    Thank goodness we’ll all know a bit more of what’s to come soon enough!
    I mean, that is exactly what "monk" was prior to MoP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazzle View Post
    What’s with Evoker pushers?

    There’s simply no basis for the concept in WoWs narrative other than a handful of generically named NPCs… literally pulled from thin air with most thematic concepts already being expressed within the mage class…

    Thank goodness we’ll all know a bit more of what’s to come soon enough!
    Someone posted this over-complicated bizarre leak that said something to the effect of "Dragonflight is real, Evoker is coming" in its metadata.
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