Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[FossilFree]

Call it at least invoker then..
Linguistically evoke from evocare would imply something to be "called out" (not in the modern meaning of blaming afaik), wheres invoke from invocare would imply "calling up", which would fit way better with the intent of channeling the powers of the flights.

Here is the thing: Obviously Blizzard can name their stuff whatever they want, but all they'd be doing here is that they show once again that they (the current clown possy) don't remember their own lore. WoW may not be DnD, but WoW built it's magic system on the back of DnDs and therefore made that part of it it's own lore. It also doesn't make sense to name name a class after a widly known mage synonym when you could name your dragon-power-channeling class something way catchier.

I honestly wonder why people are so adamant about definding this rubbish leak so much.

This is a weird thing to say when evocation comes directly from DnD.

http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wizard:evocation

[Cosmic Janitor]

This is a weird thing to say when evocation comes directly from DnD.

http://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wizard:evocation

And if you'd actually read your link you would realize that evocation is simply what mages in WoW already are, because it's one of the most prevalent schools of magic being taught in dalaran. So calling something else entirely evoker would just be nonsense.

Again I ask, why are people so adamant about definding this rubbish leak?

[Hitei]

I honestly wonder why people are so adamant about definding this rubbish leak so much.

I mean... you're the one trying to apply latin definitions as some weird side argument for why it can't be used. An argument that doesn't even hold up well since calling out/forth is the logical action here for a class calling forth dragon magic. Invocare (call upon) doesn't make much sense unless your class is literally summoning dragons (i.e. calling upon them).

It's also not even a matter of defending a leak, so much as it's pointing out that people apply really faulty reasons for why a thing can't be added.

[FossilFree]

And if you'd actually read your link you would realize that evocation is simply what mages in WoW already are, because it's one of the most prevalent schools of magic being taught in dalaran. So calling something else entirely evoker would just be nonsense.

Again I ask, why are people so adamant about definding this rubbish leak?

And arcane mages are supposedly going the way of old demonology. That was part of the leak too. So yes, seeming like mages isn't a bug, it's a feature.

[m4Zzo928]

I think we’re getting baited a bit, but I do think the expansion will in some sense be dragon related, but not how we think, definitely not like that leak.

[Mferna]

I mean... you're the one trying to apply latin definitions as some weird side argument for why it can't be used. An argument that doesn't even hold up well since calling out/forth is the logical action here for a class calling forth dragon magic. Invocare (call upon) doesn't make much sense unless your class is literally summoning dragons (i.e. calling upon them).

It's also not even a matter of defending a leak, so much as it's pointing out that people apply really faulty reasons for why a thing can't be added.

Ahahahahahahahhahahaha

[Luck4]

So far the only leaked stuff that was somewhat confirmed by either data mining, strings, or a "trustworthy" leaker, was a new class, likely being the Evoker, and also the Dragonflight name. There is anything else?

I'm asking this because everyone believes that Dragon Isles as a continent is somewhat confirmed as well, but nothing is confirming it, right? No data files, strings, or even a "trustworthy" leaker, or did I lose something?

[Cosmic Janitor]

And arcane mages are supposedly going the way of old demonology. That was part of the leak too. So yes, seeming like mages isn't a bug, it's a feature.

Which is weird, because the spec is in a fairly decent place right now, certainly nowhere near as broken/boring as it has been previously.

[Mferna]

So far the only leaked stuff that was somewhat confirmed by either data mining, strings, or a "trustworthy" leaker was a new class, likely being the Evoker, and also the Dragonflight name. There is anything else?

I'm asking this because everyone believes that Dragon Isles as a continent is somewhat confirmed as well, but nothing is confirming it, right? No data files, strings, or even a "trustworthy" leaker, or did I lose something?

No, just putting two and two together about the dragon isles. Especially since it being hinted at thru BfA

[Revamp Man]

So far the only leaked stuff that was somewhat confirmed by either data mining, strings, or a "trustworthy" leaker was a new class, likely being the Evoker, and also the Dragonflight name. There is anything else?

I'm asking this because everyone believes that Dragon Isles as a continent is somewhat confirmed as well, but nothing is confirming it, right? No data files, strings, or even a "trustworthy" leaker, or did I lose something?

dragonflight name
evoker is not confirmed because the "trustworthy" leaker got more wrong than he did right when he "leaked" legion and the people claiming to be his source also have connections to jericho who was another that got leak guesses but lost credibility 4 years ago

[Therougetitan]

I think we’re getting baited a bit, but I do think the expansion will in some sense be dragon related, but not how we think, definitely not like that leak.

Tuesday right around the corner anyways

[m4Zzo928]

So far the only leaked stuff that was somewhat confirmed by either data mining, strings, or a "trustworthy" leaker was a new class, likely being the Evoker, and also the Dragonflight name. There is anything else?

I'm asking this because everyone believes that Dragon Isles as a continent is somewhat confirmed as well, but nothing is confirming it, right? No data files, strings, or even a "trustworthy" leaker, or did I lose something?

The title Dragonflight, and ensuing tiered levels of purchase (base, epic, heroic editions) was data mined from a Blizz website. That would be the only “official” leak of any kind. There was a leak prior to the data mine with the game titled as Dragonflight, so since that leak potentially got the name right, people started thinking the rest of the big leak may be right, but I don’t have much faith in it tbh.

[Luck4]

No, just putting two and two together about the dragon isles. Especially since it being hinted at thru BfA

Thx for answering.

I'm not against Dragons Isles, and I also believe it's coming. I just think the scope is debatable. Anyway, we're gonna find out soon.

[ChronoSul]

I'm still baffled they picked a weekday in the middle of the afternoon for the east coast and morning for the west coast

Tho it is a tuesday and when was the last time they announced anything not on a tuesday while not at a blizzcon? Hearthstone used to have thursday announcements but those have been swapped to tuesday too

[Cosmic Janitor]

The title Dragonflight, and ensuing tiered levels of purchase (base, epic, heroic editions) was data mined from a Blizz website. That would be the only “official” leak of any kind. There was a leak prior to the data mine with the game titled as Dragonflight, so since that leak potentially got the name right, people started thinking the rest of the big leak may be right, but I don’t have much faith in it tbh.

The dragon flight leak was the one with the micro classes and class skins though. Ah well, less than 33 hours until this nonsense leak season is finally over.

[Luck4]

dragonflight name
evoker is not confirmed because the "trustworthy" leaker got more wrong than he did right when he "leaked" legion and the people claiming to be his source also have connections to jericho who was another that got leak guesses but lost credibility 4 years ago

The title Dragonflight, and ensuing tiered levels of purchase (base, epic, heroic editions) was data mined from a Blizz website. That would be the only “official” leak of any kind. There was a leak prior to the data mine with the game titled as Dragonflight, so since that leak potentially got the name right, people started thinking the rest of the big leak may be right, but I don’t have much faith in it tbh.

I see.

Thanks for answering, it has been hard to keep up with this thread in the last couple of days.

[FossilFree]

The title Dragonflight, and ensuing tiered levels of purchase (base, epic, heroic editions) was data mined from a Blizz website. That would be the only “official” leak of any kind. There was a leak prior to the data mine with the game titled as Dragonflight, so since that leak potentially got the name right, people started thinking the rest of the big leak may be right, but I don’t have much faith in it tbh.

I think the Alex picture and logo is basically confirmed at this point too. The R in World on that image is clearly using the new font that they have been posting with online in the past week or so. I was skeptical till I noticed that, but I'm pretty sure it came out way before they started using that font online.

[m4Zzo928]

It's worth remembering that very few expansions have one specific theme.

BfA was our "High Seas"-expansion, but Kul Tiras, Zandalar and Queen Azshara were basically poster children while the story increasingly turned towards Old Gods.

MoP was a chillax adventure with cooking pots and beer in a lush valley, yet somehow ended up being about Old Gods and war too.

WoD was a bold foray into another world to push back the war machine of the Iron Horde. Bam, Burning Legion.

And so on.

Even Legion, which was very focused around the Burning Legion, included lots of other lore. From the Emerald Dream to all the different classes and their artifacts/class halls. Not to mention Suramar!

While I think the potential in a new continent full of dragons sounds very exciting, my heart is still more on the side of a world revamp. In this version of the expansion, the Dragon Aspects are important to the story and they do teach us to defend Azeroth. But it is more about Azeroth itself and all the various little stories going on in the old world that has been revamped.

The Dragon story would serve as connective tissue bringing it all together, but it would also be a bit in the background.

Nature needs healing, the Green flight is involved. Life needs a boost, the Red flight is involved, the fundaments of the world itself are in peril, the Black flight is involved, and so on.

Major patches could involve threats from the Infinite flight and perhaps culminate with a visit to the Dragon Isles.

Yea, I agree with you about the multiple themes over an expansion. I just think something big is being left out for the reveal, something really cool to get people hyped to buy the expansion. Almost like with the shadowlands predictions, the name was known for a while, but people had some wild theories about it being mainly old god themed. I’ve heard about the restoring Azeroth theme, and even the trailer “leak”, but what I’m guessing is the reveal is going to be dragon themed, but completely different than anyone has guessed so far.

[KayRule]

Thx for answering.

I'm not against Dragons Isles, and I also believe it's coming. I just think the scope is debatable. Anyway, we're gonna find out soon.

We're past the point of reasonable scope. The Broken Isles and Kul'Tiras were scaled up enough to cover a "continent", despite all previous existence being much much smaller. The INFINITE AFTERLIVES of the Shadowlands ended up being only 5 floating islands.

It's very easy to buy the Dragon Isles as the next continent.

[m4Zzo928]

I think the Alex picture and logo is basically confirmed at this point too. The R in World on that image is clearly using the new font that they have been posting with online in the past week or so. I was skeptical till I noticed that, but I'm pretty sure it came out way before they started using that font online.

Yea I forgot to mention that. It looks off to me. It just does for some reason. It doesn’t seem congruent to my eye from other Blizzard promotions. I could be wrong, but there’s something very distinct about seeing Blizzard art that I’m not getting here.