Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

To add on this https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/Dragoncaller_Alanna also exists in Hearthstone tho again its hearthstone.

Hearthstone has had better Warcraft lore than WoW for years though

[ChronoSul]

This is pretty much current Mage. Fire uses Dragons Breath, Phoenix Flames, Arcane is somewhat like bronze with its time-warping, slowing.

It sounds boring enough to be true though. This is afterall the company that managed to f*ck up Demon Hunters.

U arnt wrong but if I remember right Scaleface did say they were basicly going to repeat what they did to demonology for demon hunters which wouldnt shock me if they decided to rework Arcane. Specially because is Evocation core to how Arcane currently works with pumping and dumping mana? It would be the equivalent of removing meta from Demo :/

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Hearthstone has had better Warcraft lore than WoW for years though

U arnt wrong specially with the last year of sets which was basicly following 10 characters through classic wow. I would be really shocked if we didnt see those characters in 10.0 or in a patch

[KayRule]

This is afterall the company that managed to f*ck up Demon Hunters.

What reality do you live in?

[DevilDare]

It's hard to take this Scaleface fellow seriously when he just drip feeds very general information. At this point he has "leaked" enough if any of it is true to somehow find the source if that's what he is worried of. So why not just come out with a full dossier if you really do know. Still not being able to describe the class/race in detail just feels like guesswork at this point.

[Vakir]

U arnt wrong but if I remember right Scaleface did say they were basicly going to repeat what they did to demonology for demon hunters which wouldnt shock me if they decided to rework Arcane. Specially because is Evocation core to how Arcane currently works with pumping and dumping mana? It would be the equivalent of removing meta from Demo :/

Difference being that at least the intended fantasy surrounding Demo for most of its inception and DH are different. An alleged caster with two Arcane-based damage dealing specs named after an NPC name "class" that has always been a standard caster in every iteration is bizarre.

It's hard to take this Scaleface fellow seriously when he just drip feeds very "general" information. At this point he has "leaked" enough if any of it is true to somehow find the source if that's what he is worried of. So why not just come out with a full dossier if you really do know. Still not being able to describe the class/race in detail just feels like guesswork at this point.

General information that contradicts itself, like saying he has only preview information in text form but is able to bullshit out visuals for the Dracthyr because that's easier to come up with than class mechanics.

All this "just wait til tomorrow " stuff doesn't matter because, again, even if it's true, it's literally so disjointed and broken in how it's delivered that it might as well not have been told at all. It's like being criticized not believing a leak of Mists when the leaker said "new dungeons but 3 people."

[Teriz]

Yea, you are completely missing my point. As usual you refuse to admit you were wrong. Refuse show any humbleness and just want to claim you're right with everything.

Reiterating events that occurred seven years ago is irrelevant to what we're discussing now. Demon Hunter fall in the exact same line as a potential Tinker class would, so their inclusion in 7.0 in no way changes the overall argument that WoW expansion classes came from WC3 in 2015, and now HotS in 2022.

Again, the calculus has changed.

[Hitei]

Evoker is just a fancy name for Dragonbard.

[Scaleface]

It's hard to take this Scaleface fellow seriously when he just drip feeds very "general" information. At this point he has "leaked" enough if any of it is true to somehow find the source if that's what he is worried of. So why not just come out with a full dossier if you really do know. Still not being able to describe the class/race in detail just feels like guesswork at this point.

Its all I can write for now basing On screens and info i have. Later today i Will post something more. Maybe about May release of mobile game.. out for now, cheers

[Das Thora]

Evoker is just a fancy name for Dragonbard.

Okay I'm down.

[8bithamster]

Reiterating events that occurred seven years ago is irrelevant to what we're discussing now. Demon Hunter fall in the exact same line as a potential Tinker class would, so their inclusion in 7.0 in no way changes the overall argument that WoW expansion classes came from WC3 in 2015, and now HotS in 2022.

Again, the calculus has changed.

You were wrong with

Tinker this expansion so far
Wc3 being the main source for any class ever.

Neither of which are 7 years ago.

[Yus atath]

It's hard to take this Scaleface fellow seriously when he just drip feeds very general information. At this point he has "leaked" enough if any of it is true to somehow find the source if that's what he is worried of. So why not just come out with a full dossier if you really do know. Still not being able to describe the class/race in detail just feels like guesswork at this point.

The xpac reveal is tomorrow, wait one day and you’ll see. No need to lose your sh*t last minute and derail the thread again.

[Buliwyf the Omen]

It's hard to take this Scaleface fellow seriously when he just drip feeds very general information. At this point he has "leaked" enough if any of it is true to somehow find the source if that's what he is worried of. So why not just come out with a full dossier if you really do know. Still not being able to describe the class/race in detail just feels like guesswork at this point.

He's just trying to lure us away from the fact that we get mech dragon tinkers.

What reality do you live in?

I dont know which reality you live in, but I cant stand hammering Chaos Strike anymore after all these years. Vengeance is cool and all but Havoc is an absolute mess. From numerous talents that should've been baseline (and older talents that shouldnt even have been pruned to begin with) to an absurdly boring rotation aswell as no baseline leech anymore, its legit horrible.

[Hitei]

Okay I'm down.

That's how it's traditionally characterized, yes. Wouldn't be hard to build a caster out of it though. Time and sand themed healer, some sort of poison and plant based DPS caster, and then maybe some sort of earth/rock/shadowflame spec that dips slightly into twilight.

I made a joke a while back about Dragonbards, because that's absurd and won't ever happen, but conceptually it might actually work quite well. Using music and sound magic to evoke flight-like magical effects. Songs of time and stinging sands for healing, dirges of poison and slumber for DPS, discordant tones to summon spears of rock and gouts of shadowflame.

Man, I was so far ahead of the curve.

[KayRule]

It's hard to take this Scaleface fellow seriously when he just drip feeds very general information. At this point he has "leaked" enough if any of it is true to somehow find the source if that's what he is worried of. So why not just come out with a full dossier if you really do know. Still not being able to describe the class/race in detail just feels like guesswork at this point.

He also got 98% of his Legion claims wrong, and says Shadowlands Season 4 isn't happening and was just announced to "gauge interest"

[Vakir]

The xpac reveal is tomorrow, wait one day and you’ll see. No need to lose your sh*t last minute and derail the thread again.

Uh huh. Not supporting some guy's poorly formulated and garbled scoop is totally the same as "derailing" the thread.

This is how fake stories take off and disappointment gets amplified. Albeit the latter is tough to call, because who the fuck would be disappointed if something as memorable and interesting Evokers didn't come to pass?

[Teriz]

You were wrong with

Tinker this expansion so far

We don't know what the class for the next expansion will be. Tinker is still in contention based on the exact same system of hints that led to a dragon-themed expansion.

Wc3 being the main source for any class ever.

WC3 IS the main source of every current WoW class. HotS only began supplanting it as a possible class source after Legion.

[Teriz]

we might not even get a class, I really hope we do though

For the sake of the health and longevity of the game, I certainly hope that Blizzard releases another class.

I could imagine quite a huge loss of subs and interest if there's no new class added to the game after almost a decade.

[Soulwind]

Evoker is just a fancy name for Dragonbard.

Do they seduce dragons, or use dragons to seduce other people? The answer may condition my purchase.

This fits with the NPC Dating theory... it's all coming together... in more than one way.

[Buliwyf the Omen]

we might not even get a class, I really hope we do though

If we dont get a new class, what are they doing all these months? What's the big feature that gets you to buy the Expansion then?

TBC had Blood Elves & Draenei.

WotLK had DK's and the Story around Lich King luring a lot of people in.

Cata had Goblins & Worgen.

MoP had Pandaren & Monks.

WoD had nothing.

Legion had Demon Hunters & Illidan as a big posterboy to get you back.

BfA had pretty much nothing imo, Allied Races are a failure with its low customizations and no effort rig stealing.

Shadowlands is the pinnacle of nothing however.

So what will 10.0 offer, feature wise, thats the major selling point? 4 new zones and a Raid?

[Teriz]

If we dont get a new class, what are they doing all these months? What's the big feature that gets you to buy the Expansion then?

TBC had Blood Elves & Draenei.

WotLK had DK's and the Story around Lich King luring a lot of people in.

Cata had Goblins & Worgen.

MoP had Pandaren & Monks.

WoD had nothing.

Legion had Demon Hunters & Illidan as a big posterboy to get you back.

BfA had pretty much nothing imo, Allied Races are a failure with its low customizations and no effort rig stealing.

Shadowlands is the pinnacle of nothing however.

So what will 10.0 offer, feature wise, thats the major selling point? 4 new zones and a Raid?

There's literally no excuse beyond greed and sheer laziness to not add a new class at this point. The team is larger, and they're still taking in tons of money. If smaller companies can pump out new classes, Blizzard can too.