Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Syegfryed]

I think mechagnomes are way better than normal gnomes

[KayRule]

That doesn't mean that Mages now get to command ships, though. Magni's new abilities aren't Mountain King abilities, they are the abilities of the Speaker.

Why can't Speaker be a spec for Mountain King....

[Berkilak]

Exactly. I remember the Mechagnome discussions vividly to this day. Clockwork gnomes are what people wanted, not the diaper abominations we got.

But even the Junker Gnomes we got could have been a pretty good addition if executed better. Like why can't we just choose to have one arm or leg replaced with a robot part? That would be so much cooler if we could do that.

They should have been options for expanded core Gnome customization. They don't even have the cultural distinction that would necessitate the creation of an Allied Race. They're just Gnomes.

[huth]

Allied races make up 16.47% of all counted characters, with some of them having significantly higher representation than some non-allied races. With gnomes at 1.51% and dwarves at 1.78%, you'd be hard-pressed to consider any of the current allied races an abject failure, even with mechagnomes at 0.63%.

Let's put it this way; of the 10 allied races so far, 3 are more popular than Pandaren and Draenei, 5 are more popular than Goblems, Worgens and Dwarves, and 7 are more popular than Gnomes.

If I were pressed to guess, I'd imagine that Blizzard considers allied races as a concept astoundingly successful, because they have been. After accounting for the elf factor, as well as ~10 years of character creation prior to them existing, the representation of most allied races vs. the effort to create them is astoundingly good in most cases. It's certainly better than many of the stand-alone races that have been released after the burning crusade.

It's likely numbers are actually rather skewed due to the requirements for Allied Races. I've probably seen more Kul Tirans run around Oribos than i have Gnomes. Admittedly, they're also a lot easier to find.

Meanwhile, i'm not sure i've seen any Mechagnomes at all.

[Yus atath]

We’re 100% getting a new class reveal tomorrow

[Sondrelk]

It's likely numbers are actually rather skewed due to the requirements for Allied Races. I've probably seen more Kul Tirans run around Oribos than i have Gnomes. Admittedly, they're also a lot easier to find.

Meanwhile, i'm not sure i've seen any Mechagnomes at all.

I am pretty sure I have seen a total of 2 Mechagnome at max level ever since they became available.

[ercarp]

We’re 100% getting a new class reveal tomorrow

It's definitely going to happen. 100% guaranteed.

[JDBlou]

It's definitely going to happen. 100% guaranteed.

I hope so my dudes, I hope so.

[Soulwind]

It's definitely going to happen. 100% guaranteed.

I can 100% confirm that it's 100% a possibility.

[horizon nowhere]

I hope so my dudes, I hope so.

Surely it has to.. right? right?...

[Wildmoon]

Hahaha, 1-hour explanation on why Alextrazza wears armor.

What is the worse that can happen? Which is the sum of all your fears?

- No class.
- No race.
- Borrowed power.
- Cosmic battle.
- No dragons

I enjoy borrowed power a lot just not the methods of acquiring it. Playing different kinds of druid like necro or nf is fun.

[AngerFork]

Yep. Honestly if they would have gone the Titan-route, Mechagnomes would be up there with Vulpera IMO.

Most likely. And there wouldn't be nearly the same discussion about them being a customization rather than a different model because they would have been so culturally & physically different from the Gnomes we had.

We’re 100% getting a new class reveal tomorrow

I hope so. WoW has IMO needed one for a while & I think the game/community could use the excitement a new class would provide.

I am pretty sure I have seen a total of 2 Mechagnome at max level ever since they became available.

I've seen more, but mostly because guildies took them for the strong racials. Which in itself says something to me...if those racials are that good & yet the adoption rate is so low, that shows how awful those models really are to the player base.

[ercarp]

Hahaha, 1-hour explanation on why Alextrazza wears armor.

What is the worse that can happen? Which is the sum of all your fears?

- No class.
- No race.
- Borrowed power.
- Cosmic battle.
- No dragons

My worst fears would be:

- No new class.
- Getting a new class but it not being dragon-themed.
- Cosmic setting / expansion not on Azeroth.
- No dragons.
- Covenants recycled as the "new" feature.
- "Somehow, Sylvanas has returned!"

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[ercarp]

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Thanks! Although we basically already know it's gonna be Dragonflight. I would be very surprised if it was something else.

[Yus atath]

Yeah there’s just no way we’re NOT getting a new class for 10.0. I mean after SL Blizzard needs pull everything out of their bag to reveal something mindblowing. This is their last chance to make things right.


Anyway i hope the new class is a spellcaster

[Grimbold21]

I think mechagnomes are way better than normal gnomes

Incorrect answer.

Mechagnomes, like all gnomes, should be exterminated. Alliance or Horde, it is everyone's moral duty to rid the world of those plagues.

[Syegfryed]

Thanks! Although we basically already know it's gonna be Dragonflight. I would be very surprised if it was something else.

imba: Blizzard uses all the time after the name leak to change the name to Explosion of Dragon

[horizon nowhere]

Incorrect answer.

Mechagnomes, like all gnomes, should be exterminated. Alliance or Horde, it is everyone's moral duty to rid the world of those plagues.

This is a good post.

[manypillars]

This is what Mechagnomes should've been.
This is what everyone wanted them to be.

Everytime people discussed potential subraces before BfA, Mimirons clockwork gnomes were prime contenders.
Yet instead of giving us them, with their unique aesthetic, we got midget cyborgs in diapers.

It's so damn sad.

I'm going to give the unpopular opinion: I think there's a ton of thought, care and effort that went into gnomes and mechagnomes. Probably more so than some other races. They have a ton of nice customizations, especially ones that really play on their on game culture and themes without being gross or creepy. The direction they took mechagnomes is one I find more interesting than the robognome thing everyone seems to have a boner for. They're well done even if people don't care for them. Alliance players would be mad no matter what they got if it wasn't high elves.

That said, I hate playing tiny races, find them unintentionally disturbing. That wobble back and forth idle just.. I dunno. Bothers me way more than it should, which is a dumb personal issue. Trying to level one of each for the heritage set will be rough.