Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nightshade711]

I personally love it.

Exactly the concept i wanted (mortal+dragon form, can be any core race) and i really like the design.

Doesn't sound very revenue producing.
How else will blizzard sell race changes if people can just look like whatever race they want

[bryroo]

It's pre-alpha footage...

It begins.

[Le Conceptuel]

What methods did you use to upscale this, curious?

Looking at it now, I think that architecture is also familiar. It almost looks like a mix of Bastion and Legion's Broken Isles architecture. The orange-and-ivory look is familiar, but I can't put my finger on it. I am absolutely certain I ahve seen something like that before, down to the orange highlights and even the spines.

[ClassicPeon]

B-but, it was so roleplaying Game-ish and you also had all these different options and build paths, and there werent any cookie cutter specs at all. They also played so vastly different with the overall 10% different stats gained there in the Frost tree and there in the Fire Tree.

To be fair hybrid specs where sort of an interesting thing. Frostfire spec for mages in early wrath for instance

[Kohtra]

It looks cheap. This is a far cry from the quality of any other race Blizzard has ever made and it's also pretty obvious that it's using the Female DH Metamorphosis skeleton.

It's a good model edit for sure, props to whoever made it, but it's not real. I refuse to believe it.

Doesn't look any cheaper than any other WoW race to me.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Doesn't sound very revenue producing.
How else will blizzard sell race changes if people can just look like whatever race they want

Racials. Mandatory transformation in combat a la Worgen.

[Deventh]

Jokes aside, I think they're real. That looks exactly like a dragon race that Blizzard would create.

But why does it use existing skeleton/animation? I thought all new races (not allied races) use unique and new skeleton.

[Hitei]

I'd figure that to be likely, since classes always very explicitly tie into the main expansion theme (and usually the box character, too), but I am confused by the use of the name to begin with. I'm sure they could've just wanted something more general than Dragonsworn, but I do wonder where evocation of any kind connects to this.

They are evoking the power of the dragons/dragonflights. I think people read way too hard into the fact that "evocation" is a magey-arcane sort of thing in wow and D&D and forget that "evoke" is just its own word. Most of the Evoker NPCs in the game are evoking strange magic (many of the drust caster NPCs are Evokers). I think they wanted something short and punchy, that was clearly a caster. So they opted not to go the dragon<thing> route and instead establish a new class identity in the vein of mage or warlock.

[Le Conceptuel]

I'm assuming it has something to do with the class fantasy. Maybe it's because they don't want your character feeling like they have to beholden to dragons just because you use their power?

That's wholly feasible. I was talking about that as a potential problem with a Drakonid race, so it could be their solution to that.

[Raetary]

lol I'm actually laughing at how some hate this race so much. It looks totally fine to me. Are some people just upset it doesn't have enough bulging muscles for them or something?

It's typical mmo-c circlejerk where no possible middle ground can exist.

No simple "i don't like it" or "this just isn't my thing" but a whole lot of "this it the worst thing to have ever been created by mankind, it's blasphemy against the gods and i will take it personally"

[Le Conceptuel]

But why does it use existing skeleton/animation? I thought all new races (not allied races) use unique and new skeleton.

That's also fairly curious. I believe someone pointed out they are using the Draenei female animations. It could just be a placeholder, though, like Zandalari using Night Elf animations in early BfA builds before getting their own.

[KyleEverett]

PTR build just updated.

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1516187682497564680

After a long hiatus a brand new 9.2.5 PTR build has emerged

[FatCheeseMan]

I really don't understand the hate. I think they look good. If they are fake, they convinced me more than any fake has done. So that is also fun. Not sure why folks are still playing wow if this doesn't look good to you. It seems to match to me. Maybe we look at different things. But no need for anyone to actually play the race if you don't want to. Always more content than just a new race.

[Teriz]

But why does it use existing skeleton/animation? I thought all new races (not allied races) use unique and new skeleton.

That is a good point. Maybe it's an early build, or maybe Blizzard decided to put more art assets into the new class?

[Archmage Xaxxas]

That's also fairly curious. I believe someone pointed out they are using the Draenei female animations. It could just be a placeholder, though, like Zandalari using Night Elf animations in early BfA builds before getting their own.

It's the Male Incubus I think, if we're getting REALLY specific. Because it has the tail animations too.

[Le Conceptuel]

They aren't real, she has freaking nipples. After the year Blizzsrd has had, they ain't animating any nipples on player models. And for people that can't tell if it's a boy or girl, just wow.

I don't think those are meant to be nipples, I think that's just a texture error of some kind that put that there. If it's covered in scales, I highly doubt it would be meant to have those. It actually does seem easy to imagine those might've been model edits from some Scalie website, though, which actually may explain the very Scalie-esque facial shape.

[Polybius]

Some semi-known very, very bad Dragon sales are gonna go wild.

Hoping for Nozdormu merch, gotta rewind.

[Villager720]

Doesn't look any cheaper than any other WoW race to me.

Other new races had new rigs (even some of the allied races!). This one is just a demon hunter with scales and the current player models.
That SCREAMS cheap.

[Catastrophy349]

PTR build just updated.

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1516187682497564680

After a long hiatus a brand new 9.2.5 PTR build has emerged

Lines up with their blue post from last week. Just in time for reveal stuff tomorrow.

[FelPlague]

So is there NO size between too large or too small that would work in YOUR opinion?



That leak isn't related to the dragon class. That leak with the two-legged dragon is from the new neutral RACE.

No there is not, because the only size for a player model that wont be annoying as fuck is too small to be a good looking "dragon" so a draknoid human race like we have seen in warcraft since... warcraft is great.

and ok so all the more reason to not have a metamorphasis dragon form.