Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[GhostCo]

The higher res photo of the talent tree really gets me thinking it might be real. Though the Drakthyr is to goofy and low res for me to take it seriously.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Like Allied Races?

For me, the issue is that there's only one of this race whereas the Allied Races came in packs, and even then they had at least one whose males used an entirely original animation set. There's also the whole heritage armor thing and whathaveyou to draw people in.

[s1ns]

Quick people went to bed someone else leak something.

something big will happen

the expansion name will contain a zany word

you may or may not encounter a new, colossal enemy of cosmic proportions

basic campfire will join the horde council

[Das Thora]

Quick people went to bed someone else leak something.

Level cap raised to 61

[AOL Instant Messenger]

The higher res photo of the talent tree really gets me thinking it might be real. Though the Drakthyr is to goofy and low res for me to take it seriously.

The issue is I don't know if it's possible for only one to be fake and one to be real, unless maybe Scaleface and the other guy found it elsewhere. That, or maybe Scaleface is partially embellishing real information. I'm not wholly sure how this whole thing works, since the Drakthyr are thoroughly unbelievable for me whereas the talent tree thing is very believable.

[Kohtra]

basic campfire will join the horde council

It's about fucking time.

[rhorle]

But is it so hard to beleive?

Yes. Because we know that proto-drakes existed before the existing dragon flights. That is why Galakrond looks like a proto-drake. The Titans empowered the aspects, creating the modern flights, to prevent the Hour of Twilight. As I said your timeline screws everything about existing lore up and basically erases it. Just as you using "Kirin'tor" when talking about something that predates old gods is silly. Of course magic predates a Human/Elf organization when Humans came about from the Curse of Flesh.

But sure Blizzard is doing a retcon of all Dragon Aspect lore. Frostmourne is a small object having its origin changed. Modern dragons predating Old Gods on Azeroth changes all of the "early azeroth" lore and the importance of events. It also means that the Dragons should have kept their power after the Hour of Twilight if that power predates the Titans, right?

[wombinator04]

If there really is no level cap increase, they better have one DAMN good alternative progression system that will carry over from now on.

But that just sounds like more work, so they probably will just increase cap to 70.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Yes. Because we know that proto-drakes existed before the existing dragon flights. That is why Galakrond looks like a proto-drake. The Titans empowered the aspects, creating the modern flights, to prevent the Hour of Twilight. As I said your timeline screws everything about existing lore up and basically erases it. Just as you using "Kirin'tor" when talking about something that predates old gods is silly. Of course magic predates a Human/Elf organization when Humans came about from the Curse of Flesh.

But sure Blizzard is doing a retcon of all Dragon Aspect lore. Frostmourne is a small object having its origin changed. Modern dragons predating Old Gods on Azeroth changes all of the lore.

Agreed. This whole thing smells. It's far easier to believe the whole Jailer retcon, as ridiculous as it is, to something like this which involves such a massive restructuring of the lore beyond what is visible. Believe me, I don't want to defend the Jailer, but at least his retcon didn't actively contradict several books and the entire concept of Galakrond.

Admittedly, if I were to have to defend this, I suppose it could, maybe, be possible that there were initially Dragons in this area, then they devolved, and then were remade into the modern Dragons again?

[Revamp Man]

So what leaks did we get today?
Been occupied with moving and my sister’s roommate dying so other than the Druid tree I haven’t seen anything

[Ferlion]

The issue is I don't know if it's possible for only one to be fake and one to be real, unless maybe Scaleface and the other guy found it elsewhere. That, or maybe Scaleface is partially embellishing real information. I'm not wholly sure how this whole thing works, since the Drakthyr are thoroughly unbelievable for me whereas the talent tree thing is very believable.

I think that, if I understand that new talent tree correctly, it would be impossible for it to be real. I cannot imagine Blizzard doing something like that from a balance perspective without MAJOR redesigns to the very core philosophy of the game.

The further elaborate, from the same poster who got it from his guild discord, he gave this..

Circle is passive, square are abilities, hexagon is talents as they are in retail rn and diamonds on the side seem like major abilities that are unlocked perhaps naturally just by having enough points in the tree

That is getting a lot closer to the ESO model of "You can build your class and abilities how you want within this archetype" but ESO gets away with that by not really focusing on parity between specs and treating dungeons and raids as fundamentally different than WoW.

[Melorandor]

My final prediction for World of Warcraft: Dragonflight based on leaks and speculation and because f it.

New Continent: The Dragon Isles; flying isle with each zone correspondent to each flight. Bronze, Blue, Red, Green, Black and in addition for later endgame zones based around new flights such as the Lunar/Ivory, Violet and Storm.

Never before seen flights such as the Ivory Flight that make their home in Uldaz; the White Tower and the proactive Violet Dragonflight, a flight made to counter the growing void threat

Level cap increase to 70


New talent system

New Class: The Evoker - A magic based spellcasting class empowered by the Dragonflights that wield control over time and offensive magics. Two specs, one healer (Life based) and one DPS (Battlemage-Chronomancy). Can be any race that has access to Mages, and comes with unique customization such as glowing magical eyes, runic tattoos and familiars.

New Race: Drac’thyr aka Dragonsworn - Race of Dragonsworn able to switch between a Dragonkin form and Humanoid (Human, Elven, Gnome, Tauren, ect) racials based on each Dragonflight. Basically mortals that become “Dragonsworn” or sworn to a Dragonflight in exchange for great boons and the like, and in this case, uplifted to be great servants of their respective Flight.

Player Housing

How to tame your Dragon Quest - Hunters being able to tame Dragonkin creatures

Quel’thalas, Lordaeron and Northern Kalimdor revamps

Living World

[Polybius]

something big will happen

the expansion name will contain a zany word

you may or may not encounter a new, colossal enemy of cosmic proportions

basic campfire will join the horde council

Holy smokes, WoD thread flashbacks.

[GhostCo]

The issue is I don't know if it's possible for only one to be fake and one to be real, unless maybe Scaleface and the other guy found it elsewhere. That, or maybe Scaleface is partially embellishing real information. I'm not wholly sure how this whole thing works, since the Drakthyr are thoroughly unbelievable for me whereas the talent tree thing is very believable.

That is my problem with it too. The talent tree seems so believable but the Drakthyr just seem off. However if it is just the first pass on models then I think I would like it more. Heck maybe it looks better in hi res.

[Ersula]

You are suggesting that, in a serious time of need for Blizzard's reputation, they would introduce a race reusing an entire animation set as a mainline expansion box addition?

Maybe, but they wouldn't make a race that just copied & pasted a Naga tail texture for their chest. The race has already been debunked.

I'm currently maintaining the Concept art & Cinematic shots might be real. Everything else is fake.

The talent trees are convincing, but they're a bad idea. They wouldn't return to something that didn't work just because people keep asking for it.

[Revamp Man]

While I'm sure it's not real still, someone on discord posted this, said they got it from a guild member

I’m interested in the traits with little arrows by their sides

[Leowyld]

With that new talent tree looking so detailed, it's really hard to dismiss. Which, as others have said, makes the Drakthyr hard to dismiss. If I had access to actual info about the expansion, I wouldn't mix in fake stuff with the real - it tarnishes the credibility. Me, I'm actually ok with the model we saw. But the only other alternative I can think of, that makes sense - a fake model of the real Drakthyr race was shared for laughs, so we would be blown away by the real Drakthyr model when it is shown tomorrow. It's a longshot... but we have plenty of those currently.

[Ferlion]

I’m interested in the traits with little arrows by their sides

I posted above quite literally just a moment ago, but as it was explained.

Circle is passive, square are abilities, hexagon is talents as they are in retail rn and diamonds on the side seem like major abilities that are unlocked perhaps naturally just by having enough points in the tree

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

So what leaks did we get today?
Been occupied with moving and my sister’s roommate dying so other than the Druid tree I haven’t seen anything

Well we got the logo in HD. Two text leaks, one circling back around to Light/Dragons/Revamp and one that basically backs up the Druid tree. And along with the druid tree we got that Dracthyr race that looks really awkward. And like 3 different supposed cinematic stills that all of them people think were made from a Rathalos.

And a riddler but we don't talk about him.

[therumblings]

Does anyone know if Scaleface said if those leaked pictures/models that someone else posted were real?