Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[ro9ue]

I might be misremembering, but weren't the Kul Tirans supposed to be an actual (non-Allied) race at first, before Blizzard decided to implement the Allied Race system? If so, it would explain the unique rig. After the Kul Tirans, all other Allied Races use a pre-existing rig.

Also pretty sure they were gonna double their money on them with Ogres or Mok'Nathal (Rexxar's new model) but for some reason gave horde those hideous little furries instead.

[Izalla]

Also that kobold fan art made me think about an idea I was thinking about last night; if the next batch of allied races (either in one expansion, which is entirely impractical and unrealistic, or through multiple expansions) were monsters from starting zones forming alliances with the opposite faction. IE;

Kobolds from Elwynn allying with the Horde.
Leper Gnomes from Dun Morogh allying with the Horde.
Satyrs the Kaldorei lands allying with the Horde.
Furbolg from Bloodmist allying with the Horde.

Quilboar from Durotar allying with the Alliance.
Harpies from Mulgore allying with the Alliance.
Forest Trolls from Quel'thalas allying with the Alliance.
Lightforged Scarlets from Lordaeron allying with the Alliance.

I don't think this one would go over well with alliance players and night elf fans who have wanted their allies to be playable for a while. Be like giving ogres to Alliance

[Das Thora]

Internal F&F Build.

- Level Cap is rising to 70.
- BFA and Shadowlands remain the "main" leveling track, BFA now goes to 30, Shadowlands to 60.
- Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor will be updated with uniform HD Graphics. No quest changes at this time.
- Blood Elf and Draenei starting areas are updated for flight, but remain apart of Outland's servers. Hyjal, Uldum and Twilight Highlands are also updated, but not Vash'jir and Deepholme.

- New Neutral Race, Drakenoids. Slightly redesigned to be shorter and more streamlined. Skin color options are determiend by your class. Have an optional "mortal form" you can customize. Options are Human, Blood Elf, Zandalari and Night Elf.
- Instead of a new class existing classes are undergoing a major revamp. Specialization & Talents has been completely reworked into a customization system that combines the best parts of Specs, Talents, Glyphs, and Legendaries.
- Both your Class and your Spec have Talent Trees now. These trees are used to unlock new abilities and modify your existing abilities.
- Specs are now chosen at level 5 instead of 10.
- Class Talent Points are earned every odd level starting from 3. Spec Talent Points are earned every even level starting from 6.
- Talents have ranks again, but you do not need to max out a talent in order to progress to the next one.
- The trees do not progress top to bottom, rather you will choose one of a few talents to start with and progress outward from there.

- New Continent: Dragon Isles, 5 zones, located between Lordaeron and Northrend.
- We must discover the true origins of the Dragonflights and help them restore their power.
- The Rampaging Scourge has a presence in the Green zone, picking up on Life and Death where Shadowlands left off.
- Vrykul have a presence across the isles, most importantly in the Red zone. They are trying to subjegate the remaining Dragons.
- Chromatus, Murozond, and Galakrond are also involved in the plot.
- A new group called the "Celestial Dragonflight" are a major part of the plot. They are a prelude to Zovaal's warning.

- Dragonsworn is the new Covenant-like mechanic. No AP or Renown system, the Dragonflight Campaign is what locks everything.
- Dragonflight Traits are the new Endgame Power. Gear will have a chance to drop as Dragon-Blessed, with a bonus Dragonflight Trait on it.
- Each Flight has 5 possible Traits it can roll on gear. The rolled trait is the same relative trait all players, so if you see Green Trait 5 your party members will see their Flight's 5th trait.
- Players will only be able to equip only 2 Dragon-Blessed pieces.

With how 'careful' Blizzard has been lately, I'd be very surprised if they call a new race something-oid.

[Le Conceptuel]

I hope you're at least having fun with this because otherwise you sound incredibly troubled, especially since you're running your posts through a thesaurus instead of talking like a normal person.

Time out a second here. At what point do I sound like I'm using a thesaurus?

[Alexjimithing]

100% down with a WoW sphere grid

[Das Thora]

I don't think this one would go over well with alliance players and night elf fans who have wanted their allies to be playable for a while. Be like giving ogres to Alliance

I mean... they gave blood elves to the Horde and worgen to the Alliance. Ogres on the Alliance wouldn't be too unlikely anymore.

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Time out a second here. At what point do I sound like I'm using a thesaurus?

Going to stop responding to clear mental illness. Hope you have a nice day and get better though.

[Le Conceptuel]

I don't think this one would go over well with alliance players and night elf fans who have wanted their allies to be playable for a while. Be like giving ogres to Alliance

Agreed. Zero precedent for that—Furbolgs have been pretty consistently allied with the Alliance. In fact, they probably would've joined them entirely if not for the events of Azshara.

[enak101]

Internal F&F Build.

- Level Cap is rising to 70.
- BFA and Shadowlands remain the "main" leveling track, BFA now goes to 30, Shadowlands to 60.
- Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor will be updated with uniform HD Graphics. No quest changes at this time.
- Blood Elf and Draenei starting areas are updated for flight, but remain apart of Outland's servers. Hyjal, Uldum and Twilight Highlands are also updated, but not Vash'jir and Deepholme.

- New Neutral Race, Drakenoids. Slightly redesigned to be shorter and more streamlined. Skin color options are determiend by your class. Have an optional "mortal form" you can customize. Options are Human, Blood Elf, Zandalari and Night Elf.
- Instead of a new class existing classes are undergoing a major revamp. Specialization & Talents has been completely reworked into a customization system that combines the best parts of Specs, Talents, Glyphs, and Legendaries.
- Both your Class and your Spec have Talent Trees now. These trees are used to unlock new abilities and modify your existing abilities.
- Specs are now chosen at level 5 instead of 10.
- Class Talent Points are earned every odd level starting from 3. Spec Talent Points are earned every even level starting from 6.
- Talents have ranks again, but you do not need to max out a talent in order to progress to the next one.
- The trees do not progress top to bottom, rather you will choose one of a few talents to start with and progress outward from there.

- New Continent: Dragon Isles, 5 zones, located between Lordaeron and Northrend.
- We must discover the true origins of the Dragonflights and help them restore their power.
- The Rampaging Scourge has a presence in the Green zone, picking up on Life and Death where Shadowlands left off.
- Vrykul have a presence across the isles, most importantly in the Red zone. They are trying to subjegate the remaining Dragons.
- Chromatus, Murozond, and Galakrond are also involved in the plot.
- A new group called the "Celestial Dragonflight" are a major part of the plot. They are a prelude to Zovaal's warning.

- Dragonsworn is the new Covenant-like mechanic. No AP or Renown system, the Dragonflight Campaign is what locks everything.
- Dragonflight Traits are the new Endgame Power. Gear will have a chance to drop as Dragon-Blessed, with a bonus Dragonflight Trait on it.
- Each Flight has 5 possible Traits it can roll on gear. The rolled trait is the same relative trait all players, so if you see Green Trait 5 your party members will see their Flight's 5th trait.
- Players will only be able to equip only 2 Dragon-Blessed pieces.

Didn't they stop doing F&F builds entirely? Don't really buy the race choices for humanoid form being human,belf,zandalari,nelf.

[plz delete account]

That's what I'm saying. The allied races are not baseline races. Would you really say the one, sole mainline race they're introducing (much less the first one in many years) would outwardly reuse an existing animation set?

You realize that since WoD all races have used the unified race skeleton,right?

[wowrefugee]

- New Neutral Race, Drakenoids. Slightly redesigned to be shorter and more streamlined. Skin color options are determiend by your class. Have an optional "mortal form" you can customize. Options are Human, Blood Elf, Zandalari and Night Elf.
.

Bad fake solely because of this point. Zandalari trolls are locked behind a grind. They're not going to do that especially while the alliance don't.

[rhorle]

Feel free to speculate

Speculate on what? You being incorrect or Blizzard throwing out a large part of existing lore including the time line of when Dragons were empowered and evolved into what we know today? Your leak even implies that proto-drakes came after rather then before the current Dragons.

[Exhuman]

People were exicted for Shadowlands reveal and see how everything turned lmao.

[SniperCT]

Very cool! My main has a Westron name, primary alt has a Sindarized Quenya name, and other alts have various names in Khuzdul, Adunaic, and Valarin. It's always great to meet another fan!

Oooh adunaic, that's always a fun one!

[Le Conceptuel]

You realize that since WoD all races have used the unified race skeleton,right?

Yes, I am aware of that. Skeletons are not the same as animation sets, though. They're still reusing the bulk of animations, including in the leaked combat screenshot.

[Mightytasty]

Internal F&F Build.

- Level Cap is rising to 70.
- BFA and Shadowlands remain the "main" leveling track, BFA now goes to 30, Shadowlands to 60.
- Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor will be updated with uniform HD Graphics. No quest changes at this time.
- Blood Elf and Draenei starting areas are updated for flight, but remain apart of Outland's servers. Hyjal, Uldum and Twilight Highlands are also updated, but not Vash'jir and Deepholme.

- New Neutral Race, Drakenoids. Slightly redesigned to be shorter and more streamlined. Skin color options are determiend by your class. Have an optional "mortal form" you can customize. Options are Human, Blood Elf, Zandalari and Night Elf.
- Instead of a new class existing classes are undergoing a major revamp. Specialization & Talents has been completely reworked into a customization system that combines the best parts of Specs, Talents, Glyphs, and Legendaries.
- Both your Class and your Spec have Talent Trees now. These trees are used to unlock new abilities and modify your existing abilities.
- Specs are now chosen at level 5 instead of 10.
- Class Talent Points are earned every odd level starting from 3. Spec Talent Points are earned every even level starting from 6.
- Talents have ranks again, but you do not need to max out a talent in order to progress to the next one.
- The trees do not progress top to bottom, rather you will choose one of a few talents to start with and progress outward from there.

- New Continent: Dragon Isles, 5 zones, located between Lordaeron and Northrend.
- We must discover the true origins of the Dragonflights and help them restore their power.
- The Rampaging Scourge has a presence in the Green zone, picking up on Life and Death where Shadowlands left off.
- Vrykul have a presence across the isles, most importantly in the Red zone. They are trying to subjegate the remaining Dragons.
- Chromatus, Murozond, and Galakrond are also involved in the plot.
- A new group called the "Celestial Dragonflight" are a major part of the plot. They are a prelude to Zovaal's warning.

- Dragonsworn is the new Covenant-like mechanic. No AP or Renown system, the Dragonflight Campaign is what locks everything.
- Dragonflight Traits are the new Endgame Power. Gear will have a chance to drop as Dragon-Blessed, with a bonus Dragonflight Trait on it.
- Each Flight has 5 possible Traits it can roll on gear. The rolled trait is the same relative trait all players, so if you see Green Trait 5 your party members will see their Flight's 5th trait.
- Players will only be able to equip only 2 Dragon-Blessed pieces.

This one almost fooled me. But there’s no way Blizzard is introducing covenant-specific thunderforging. That sounds intentionally written to piss the WoW community off lol

[Le Conceptuel]

Speculate on what? You be incorrect or Blizzard throwing out a large part of existing lore including the time line of when Dragons were empowered and evolved into what we know today? Your leak even implies that proto-drakes came after rather then before the current Dragons.

Indeed. I think that it would be such an abrupt and inexplicable retcon that even Blizzard wouldn't do it. They'd have to be legitimately insane to do that.

[Polybius]

Issue with this is that, regardless of whether or not they reuse the skeleton, it can be divided into different parts with their own unique movements: legs, torso, and head. It's evidenced in the unsynced waist that existed with early Draenei. Kinda pointless to even speculate when they can Frankenstein it.

[Ersula]

You can't compare a professional level CGI shot with an MS paint map and a website mockup.

She's the one comparing it to the blurry as f dragonflight cinematic shot & an already debunked Dragon race. The Scales are copy-pasted off of Naga models.

This is the original TBC leak.

Sir, what do you think the word "leak" means?

[Das Thora]

Issue with this is that, regardless of whether or not they reuse the skeleton, it can be divided into different parts with their own unique movements: legs, torso, and head. It's evidenced in the unsynced waist that existed with early Draenei.

I was posting it since it's funny to me that everyone 'agrees' someone is just reusing an old model, but no one can agree what it is.

It's fake! It's a worgen.
No, incubus!
Nooo, dreadlord!
It's Hogger!
It's clearly the bear model photoshopped!
It's clearly the invisible bunnies that were edited for a scalie server that totally exists!

[Emet-Selch]

She's the one comparing it to the blurry as f dragonflight cinematic shot & an already debunked Dragon race. The Scales are copy-pasted off of Naga models.

Citation needed. And that's not proof it's fake.