Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Merryck]

It would be weird if the Drakthyr and Evoker both turn into the same humanoid dragon like Scale suggested. Like, why even have Drakthyr if that's the case.

[Benedict Donald]

I dont think so. One leak mention that the dragon transformation will be one style and not have a difference between male/female

The one saying that also said you could make them thick or thin, change the wings, etc.

[horizon nowhere]

Crazy idea.

1. Drakthyr are both a race and a class. Their race can only play their class, their class can only be played by their race.
2. They will be playable in 9.2.5 (probably a pre-order bonus like DHs) and added to the PTR very soon to serve as the demo they would normally have at an in-person Blizzcon.

1 is straight up awful, please no..

[TriHardBanEvader]

I mean I wouldn't mind the dragon as long as u can turn it off in combat, I would still want the basic races with dragon features as a playable thing, but if it's like the worgen where you're forced into the furry form while in combat then nah

[Nymrohd]

And another thing. Any crouched bow legged model is a pass for me for the simple reason that mogs look crappy on them. Already have that issue on so many races already.

[Ferlion]

In other words you wouldn't take a player that wants to raid with out some, or all, gear unequipped. Which means you will factor in players that make bad choices as a raid leader. There wasn't a fundamental shift in mindset that happened between the old talent trees and the new ones. There just were no longer really bad choices to pick as talents. Again it isn't about a mindset but actual talents that were terrible choices and just existed for an illusion of choice.

If people don't have both legendary items yet, I'd still take them to the raid, despite it not being there.

If somebody didn't choose talents at all I would not.

But those are unrealistic to expect. And there is no reason to be afraid of worst case scenario things. Because the people I "choose" to play with, and thus are not strangers where that is a fundamental worry, are not people I need to worry about it.

This "Well what if, for some reason, these players you've been playing with for years all of hte sudden decided to purposely sabotage the entire group because there is a small possibility of wild outliers that might theoretically exist so we should just not let anyone have options" argument is... selfish.

[Benedict Donald]

I wonder if the preorder will include the race, the class, or both as an early unlock? I wouldn't mind taking my dracthyr evoker through sepulcher while waiting for 10.0 to drop.

[Ersula]

Crazy idea.

1. Drakthyr are both a race and a class. Their race can only play their class, their class can only be played by their race.
2. They will be playable in 9.2.5 (probably a pre-order bonus like DHs) and added to the PTR very soon to serve as the demo they would normally have at an in-person Blizzcon.

They're so ugly. I have to compare it to when they Everquest updated their player models in Shadows of Luclin & two thirds of their subscribers quit.

[Das Thora]

They're so ugly. I have to compare it to when they Everquest updated their player models in Shadows of Luclin & two thirds of their subscribers quit.

Shadows of Luclin is also when Final Fantasy 11 came out, so I'm not sure that's entirely fair to blame the graphics shift.
If the shift that began in MoP (and was spread to the other races in WoD) didn't cause 2/3rds of players to quit WoW, Dragonflight being a second shift won't.

[D4NNYB0Y]

Well final prediction, because I have to start working:

As I've said all along, it's all real. Everything from Scaleface, Axaron, and Frankystein.

It sounds like Evoker is going to be Red flight healing spec, Bronze flight chronomancy ranged DPS spec, and possibly song based ranged DPS spec?

Or possibly the healing spec is a Red/song based healing spec, and then time magic DPS spec, and mystery DPS spec (maybe Blue due to Arcane focus)?

If I am wrong, and this is somehow all fake despite coming from multiple independent, unrelated sources and multiple different screenshots, this is the most elaborate fake leak we've ever had.

It will also mean I will be totally surprised this morning which is awesome!

It was fun speculating with you guys. See you next leak season!

[KainneAbsolute]

Ok guys, if we are getting dragon people, can you guess which are going to be their racial powers?

Maybe:
- Glide
- Fire breath
- Dragon rage?

[therumblings]

Ok guys, if we are getting dragon people, can you guess which are going to be their racial powers?

Maybe:
- Glide
- Fire breath
- Dragon rage?

Glide for sure, hopefully they get a flight form like druids, but using their wings.

[ercarp]

Morning fellas.

Did any new "leaks" drop over the past 6 hours?

[therumblings]

Morning fellas.

Did any new "leaks" drop over the past 6 hours?

More Dracthyr images and I think more talent tree images.

[Voidwielder]

I am profoundly horny.

[Sugani]

There wasn't a fundamental shift in mindset that happened between the old talent trees and the new ones. There just were no longer really bad choices to pick as talents

This is the wrong way to look at it, the new trees were designed to have a quality over quantity approach based on excitement and impact. Stuff that was more impactful and interesting instead of stuff like "Piercing Ice - Increase crit by 1% per point", or "Improved Frostbolt - Reduces the casting time of your frostbolt by 0.1 second per point" on paper, that isn't a bad choice, they're both really good, they're just really boring to choose.

[Ersula]

I still don't think those dragonoids are real, but as long as they and the Darkfallen ARs are real I'll be okay. Everyone falls in two groups & those groups happen to be goth elves & scalies.

[thilicen]

This is the wrong way to look at it, the new trees were designed to have a quality over quantity approach based on excitement and impact. Stuff that was more impactful and interesting instead of stuff like "Piercing Ice - Increase crit by 1% per point", or "Improved Frostbolt - Reduces the casting time of your frostbolt by 0.1 second per point" on paper, that isn't a bad choice, they're both really good, they're just really boring to choose.

Definitely, though I've always missed the whole picture. Each talent in their own were pretty boring, putting it all together as a build however was always fun but lacked real depth back then.

[zeir]

Been wanting a talent tree rework for ages, now the chances of it happening are linked to some god awful drakonid playable race lol

[Sugani]

I still don't think those dragonoids are real, but as long as they and the Darkfallen ARs are real I'll be okay. Everyone falls in two groups & those groups happen to be goth elves & scalies.

The only bit of copium we have is that they're just a new NPC race that exists in the world and these screenshots have been manipulated in a way that makes us think we're getting a new race to play as. Had the Venthyr, or Kyrian models leaked prior to shadowlands, many would have automatically assumed it being a new allied race. Hell, even after it was announced people speculated that they were going to be allied raced unlocked in future patches. How naive we were back then.