Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Magenugget]

Just please be good and don't let Danuser talk.

[MCMLXXXII]

Pandaria wasn't an unknown, and the Mogu and the Thunder King were all part of it. Pandaria was known and demanded by a lot of people for a very a long time.

Nightborne are just recolored Night Elves, one of the most popular races in WoW, hardly a risk. Additionally, they came out with 9 other races.

The Mogu and the Thunder King were invented for MoP and never mentioned before...

[therumblings]

What are you referring to?

ahgsfds posts

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

You can customise both forms, like you do with worgens, but saying that humanoid is human? that's harsh. Depends how you will do it. Sadly, you cant be a dragon gnome.

My point is that the humanoid looks human, but I get ya.

Are you saying we can't be draconian other races like Pandaren? We're stuck with some human with scales?

[Hitei]

Just please be good and don't let Danuser talk.

Rent free.

[Revamp Man]

neither, its drakonid

ok so that (if we take you as 100% legit which at this point im not doubting anyone really) confirms the screenshots of the new dragon race and the character select to be fake

[Deventh]

For that one i do need the link, as its not in ercarps spreadsheet.

https://i.imgur.com/eSKpNHv.png

[Syegfryed]

You can customise both forms, like you do with worgens, but saying that humanoid is human? that's harsh. Depends how you will do it. Sadly, you cant be a dragon gnome.

So its just garbage elf dragon then

fuck, its demon hunter all over again

[TriHardBanEvader]

You can customise both forms, like you do with worgens, but saying that humanoid is human? that's harsh. Depends how you will do it. Sadly, you cant be a dragon gnome.

On the topic of the alternate form though, can you use it in combat? Or are you forced into the dragon form >.<?

[Nyel]

His name was Gul'dan

Zovaal *chuckles*

[Rathwell]

Definitely not the last expansion. No matter how bad the game gets, they'll keep making it so long as it makes them money.

That's definitely true, question is for how much longer it'll be making money.

WoW peaked at ~12 million players back in WotLK and then has been pretty steadily losing players over the past 11 years. At the end of MoP we were down to 7.5 million players. in Warlords of Draenor we dipped down to ~5 million players, and Blizzard decided to stop doing subscription announcements around that time.

Given that WoW lost 7 million players between 2011-2015, I'd imagine we're quite a bit lower than those 5 million over these past 7 years, even if we assume that the decline stopped being as sharp as it was before.


Blizzard's definitely focused less on WoW past couple of years so they've probably found ways to cut corners and cheap out to keep it profitable for longer, but we can't be all *that* far away from the line that crosses into unprofitable. WoW has a fraction of the playerbase it once had.

[Venasea]

I think the game is being held together by the Classic versions. If that was not a thing it wouldn't survive that many bad rolls.

How many people are playing EverQuest? It got its 27th expansion in 2020 and EverQuest 2 got its 17th the same year. WoW probably has a few good years left, if anything I could see it going F2P if they lose too many subscriptions down the line.

[Deventh]

You can customise both forms, like you do with worgens, but saying that humanoid is human? that's harsh. Depends how you will do it. Sadly, you cant be a dragon gnome.

Imagine if they exclude gnomes when there's a Chromie around. Blasphemy. She is more popular than Alexstrasza.

[Teriz]

I agree here in general, but Dragon stuff seems to appeal people. So giving the players random Dragon stuff might be good enough.

Here's the thing though; WoW fans have an expectation of what a WoW dragon is and looks like. You can't deviate too far from that aesthetic or people will think it looks terrible. Hence why if Blizzard was making a dragon race, they would go with Drakonoids because WoW players have known of Drakonoids for years and they appear in WoW related material like the TTRPG, CCG, and Hearthstone. Will everyone like a Drakonoid? Probably not, but they would ACCEPT it because they know its been a part of WoW for decades. You don't have that cushion of familiarity with some random dragon race using the Metamorphosis skeleton.

The same applies to classes. WoW has never just plopped out some unknown class. All WoW expansion classes are known quantities that players have asked for and actually played with in other Blizzard formats. If Blizzard just plopped out random classes like other games, we would gotten a new class in Shadowlands. Blizzard doesn't work in that fashion, they're very careful about what new classes they bring into the game. They even tie new classes to established lore figures to make the class more of a fit in the game. Evoker/Envoker/Invoker doesn't go along with that philosophy at all, and seems like a random class addition with no rhyme or reason to a WoW expansion.

[Revamp Man]

Blizzard probably thinks dragons are more appealing then Tinkers. And I think they are right.

like 99% of nerd culture agrees
heck this year has added new dragon stuff to most IPs including a new dragon subclass in D&D which imo is amazing

[horizon nowhere]

Trying not to doom too hard but..

[Cheezits]

It’s going to be really funny seeing the people angry that you can’t be a gnome if that’s true. The most hated race in the game and people will complain that you can’t be Chromie, despite probably not having a desire to roll a gnome in the first place.

[Kiria]

Die from laughter because it would be a massive fail on Blizzard's part. If you're trying to course correct, you do what you did in Legion and bring out the known big guns. You don't take wild chances on unknowns.

I'm sorry but Tinkers are most definitely not big guns, I feel a majority will definitely prefer a new caster class over a tech one anyday.

[ahgsfds]

On the topic of the alternate form though, can you use it in combat? Or are you forced into the dragon form >.<?

That is I dont know. I just got a quick look at the looks. No idea about theirs combat.

[therumblings]

That is I dont know. I just got a quick look at the looks. No idea about theirs combat.

Did you see anything to do with Evokers at all? We have a critical lack of information on the class except that it may have one flame healing spec.