Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[KayRule]

That's definitely true, question is for how much longer it'll be making money.

WoW peaked at ~12 million players back in WotLK and then has been pretty steadily losing players over the past 11 years. At the end of MoP we were down to 7.5 million players. in Warlords of Draenor we dipped down to ~5 million players, and Blizzard decided to stop doing subscription announcements around that time.

Given that WoW lost 7 million players between 2011-2015, I'd imagine we're quite a bit lower than those 5 million over these past 7 years, even if we assume that the decline stopped being as sharp as it was before.


Blizzard's definitely focused less on WoW past couple of years so they've probably found ways to cut corners and cheap out to keep it profitable for longer, but we can't be all *that* far away from the line that crosses into unprofitable. WoW has a fraction of the playerbase it once had.

WoW's highest playerbase was during Cataclysm actually. I always like how Wrathbabies love to count the entire first year of Cataclysm reaching the peak as "WotLK"

[Wangming]

guys, what class colour do you think will evoker be?

Every colour.

[horizon nowhere]

Maybe a reddish orange

hmm yeah or like a vibrant peach color

[Veluren]

Doubt it, but why is that even restricted?

Fears of square enix suing them?

[username993720]

It's weird how there are no apparent image leaks of this supposed new class.

[Revamp Man]

I'm sorry but Tinkers are most definitely not big guns, I feel a majority will definitely prefer a new caster class over a tech one anyday.

tinkers aka tech shamans

[Raetary]

The talent trees are missing xD

[Kiria]

Uh, Tinkers are one of the most demanded for classes in WoW. You think Blizzard made that April Fool's joke because they aren't? Yeah, you might not like them, but they're a pretty consistent presence in Warcraft history. Further, there's a large audience of MMO players who highly enjoy technology classes, so bringing in a Tinker would attract that audience as well. An audience who might not be currently playing WoW because there isn't a class that appeals to them.

It's demanded by a minority of the player see on fansites, honestly if tinker gets mentioned over a potential caster class my purchase and continued subscription would not be secured and I think many others would feel the same.

[Teriz]

It goes against YOUR expectations, not all WoW fans. You always think you speak for ALL WoW fans but you don't.

Except that its proven science that people prefer the known to the unknown. WoW fans are no different. They'd rather have something known become a permanent part of the game than something unknown and untested. That's just common sense.

On Blizzard's part, it's a MASSIVE risk to implement an unknown and untested race and class concept into the game. Again, it's common sense for them to bring in something that has an established fan base within the community.

[ahgsfds]

its a race that work like worgen

human->werewolf

people want to know if it will be just

Elf->dragon form

or

Any race->Dragon form

why elf? it's something new. Neither elf human space cow or orc. Just stay tuned.

[ZyntosAran]

Perfection

[Eunomii]

It's weird how there are no apparent image leaks of this supposed new class.

At this point I dont even know if I believe theres a new class, if the talent trees are legit they might aswell just have put all their work into that to update all current classes, but we'll see later, I really do hope I'm wrong because I want a new spellcaster D:

[ZyntosAran]

why elf? it's something new. Neither elf human space cow or orc. Just stay tuned.

But we saw humanoid forms of the new race. So you say the screenshots are fake?

[Cheezits]

God, if they can’t be every race, which is 100% going to happen because of all the customization needed, we’re 100000% going to get “Chromiegate” where people shit on the concept.

[johnny download]

Back just in time for the reveal hehe.

[MCMLXXXII]

No, he's pretty right on that topic, WoW fans especially have a quite clear idea of what a dragon is supposed to look like, especially considering we've been facing them for about 15 years or so now

If people would think though, they would understand the hassle playing a real dragon PC. Armor clipping, invisible hit boxes etcetera.

[Rathwell]

is that 12m before or after the removal of china from sub count

I believe all of those numbers include China. I think a Blizzard rep mentioned around 2019 that retail WoW is about 70% Chinese players

[Syegfryed]

why elf? it's something new. Neither elf human space cow or orc. Just stay tuned.

the humanoid form you "leak" earlier was literaly an elf with pinky eyes and horns, that is awful

[Sondrelk]

hmm yeah or like a vibrant peach color

Brown could work. It's a distinct color and wouldn't be confused for any other class.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

why elf? it's something new. Neither elf human space cow or orc. Just stay tuned.

The thing is, we don't want something new. We want something that we've been shown and told about for years. We want what dragons have been doing forever.

If we're stuck with something that looks human but with dragon scales and horns here and there, it's going to be super disappointing.