Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

This is a big defeat for team world revamp, but eh, it means we'll be here for 11.0...

Nah, I'll be in Epsilon making the world revamp I want.

[Deadmines]

So we know that the new class wears mail armor, but I can't see to find any information about what type of weapons they wield. Anyone want to take a guess?

[Sharby]

The Good:

-Cinematic was cool, not really hype, but very pretty.
-The Zones look amazing, not unique by any means but the art is good enough to carry it, finally open zones again.
-Talent revamp was much, much needed, and was the biggest thing on my wishlist, which is enough to bump the expansion up to Legion tier for me.
-Cross-faction play will be here at the start, and will most likely get developed more.
-Seems to have flying at the start which is nice.
-Overall good theme, no shock value, just a calm adventure expansion which I wanted.




The Bad:

-The new race is terrible, the new class is also terrible, forcing the terrible new race to only be the terrible new class is the worst case scenario with me.

It screams budget and lazy, I mean come on, it's brand new race, why the fuck is it reusing so much shit? And no, I don't care if the textures are new the fact that it also is genderless and way too skinny and feminine by default is just terrible. Demon Hunters had a similar thing going on but the difference in quality is very tangible.

Literally the last thing I wanted for a dragon-race and I'm super bitter already over it lol. So many design choices for the race are bad, I hate their heads, their legs are also terrible, the wings look awkward and cheap. I already know most gear will look shitty on them. Alpha or not, the core design of the race is just bad to me.

Legit the only way to save it would be to do a complete overhaul, which won't happen. And I'm super disappointed because they had so much PREVIOUS inspiration to go off of when making this race, hell the bipedal guards shown in the deep-dive look so much better than what we got. Such a shame.



Overall: 8/10

[JDBlou]

This screams its great for me honestly.

Talent System looks interesting, I really like the humanoid form of the Dracthyr, and improved Flying that is instantly available is always a plus.

It can only be good.

I am so happy theres no Torghast/Island Expeditions/Warfronts crap.

I agree with you I'm enjoying the simplification and stepping away from pointless systems. It's a return to the MoP expac structure.

[Deventh]

So, to be honest, I am not getting the Hate.

- No borrowed power.
- Focus on the world (probably thats where the "systems" come in, they talked about "stuff the players can do here" during the zone introductions), so probably world quests / events
- New race & class
- Talent trees
- Professions matter & Revamp
- UI revamp
- More itemization through Dungeons, Raids and Professions!

this seems like what everyone always talks about what they want after the bad expansions.

Now they got it and they still are not happy.

And you get all of that in 2 years from now, which I am really curious how long will keep people playing. They are really putting all their eggs in the WOTLK basket.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Class/Talent revamp

1-60 revamp

Return of Points for Gear endgame



My interest comes down to the last one, I said they need to hit 2/3.



Continent looks nice as always, an exploration expansion feels refreshing after years of high stakes and poster villains.

Dracthyr having only Evoker is a mistake imo, but Evoker being only Dracthyr solves some issues with it. I guess they wanted to force Dracthyr to be played more than the Allied Races were.

Talent system feels real nice, just wish it was saddled with a game that was able to fix more than one gameplay problem every 2 years.

[Alanar]

Yes. Many do, in fact! You're entitled to not buying it if you find it uncool.

Haven't seen many..

But I am also part of the we and I find horrible.. this looks llike these terrible final fantasy characters.. put bunny ears on it and done.

[Mauderkin]

Didn't you hear? There's no wow factor, no hook! No Torghast or Warfr-HAH sorry I can't actually type that out.

I think the entire reaction to this shit is just proof most of the WoW playerbase (especially "lapsed players") are looking to bitch and moan about what's going on.

Healthy skepticism is fine. Inventing reasons to be upset, like the lack of... Useless systems used as a bullet point on a box? That's sad shit.

[Keyalios]

As I said Evoker is a let down. Needs 3 specs at least IMO. Excited for a ranged mail class though.

Since it’s alpha I’m really really hoping they go back to the drawing board on the Draconic models though. They look horrid right now.

[Raetary]

The Furries will defile this thing until there's nothing left of it.

[Moojhito]

i only hate the dragonkin form model , wanted it more bulky ,everything else seems awesome

[Hitei]

I dont want to play a scaley, I want to play a character like alexstrasza/kalec, so I really hope we can go humanoid form full time as a choice

100% can't. The spells themselves involve using your wings and such.

[Emet-Selch]

Now if they were more than a combat form with new visible armor and not linked to a class, I might be interested

Truth be told I could envision them having armor customization and armors that unlock from achievements.

[Deventh]

The Furries will defile this thing until there's nothing left of it.

That is literally the hyena model on 2 feet:

[[Apok]]

Please dont tell me people WANT systems now.
lmao

No i just want to know more about the expansion other than a couple of sentences on the website which gives no real info.

other than we have no idea why we are going, who we are fighting or what the threat is.

all in all, a piss poor reveal.

[Neliah]

So, to be honest, I am not getting the Hate.

- No borrowed power.
- Focus on the world (probably thats where the "systems" come in, they talked about "stuff the players can do here" during the zone introductions), so probably world quests / events
- New race & class
- Talent trees
- Professions matter & Revamp
- UI revamp
- More itemization through Dungeons, Raids and Professions!

this seems like what everyone always talks about what they want after the bad expansions.

Now they got it and they still are not happy.

People will always find something to complain about.

[Ashina]

Ugh I admit I'm finally too old for this game. I'm out. These graphics and the simplicity of everything are obviously not aimed at gamer older than mid 20s tops. I would be embarrassed to admit playing this now, at least with player housing I would have sucked it up and kept playing. So sad right now, this was my favorite game for years.

Is this satire with that pfp?

[Alexjimithing]

The tier set concept art is fucking cool

[Emet-Selch]

So we know that the new class wears mail armor, but I can't see to find any information about what type of weapons they wield. Anyone want to take a guess?

Would guess fist weapons, since both specs use their talons

[KainneAbsolute]

- Zones are meh. The dragon seat of power seems cool.
- Iam not excited for the dragon people because I don't like the dragon form. More interesting are the half-giants or the gnolls in design.
- The evoker is a sorcerer if you want the parallel with Dungeons and Dragons. In DnD the sorcerers were descendants of dragons, that's why they have magic powers. WoW makes sorcereres=dragon people.
- Evoker and Dracthyr put together save Blizzard a lot of time in animation. However, I miss we don't have a dragon knight class.
- No enemy announcement, but if the Dracthyr are experiments...I guess Chromatus may appear.
- UI changes are good news.
- New tree talents system...not convinced. We need more information.
- Dragon riding is cool, but not enough. No new islands/warfront/mage tower/torghast/covenant/class halls? Maybe housing will happen but they are not ready.