Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Chickat]

The 4 zone thing is weird.

Why not just utilize the Dracthyr zone as a regular zone?

Maybe it will be an end game zone in a patch? Maybe its small? Who knows, but they did say that the zones are the biggest they have ever made sooo..

4 Dragonflight zones could be as big as 6 WoD zones or northern or OL. Too soon to see IMO. Pandaria was 5 zones initially and they turned it into 7 due to feedback.

Its also possible that they are going to go smaller scale for the initial expansion so they have dev time for 2 more big zones in patches. 77 day patch cadence with 2 big zones added every 6 months.

[Teriz]

NGL something like this mockup from reddit would fix a TON of my complaints.

I do think that the Dracthyr were a decent compromise between playing a dragon and a humanoid drakonid…

If they fixed the race up a bit and/or added more body types I’d like them a lot more.

I think a lot of the issues people are having are aesthetics. I do think we're going to get that as a body option.

[Chickat]

Someones edit from reddit:

That looks better, but maybe too thick.

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The size of Dragonflight's continent is hard to pin down, but it's one of the largest continents Blizzard has offered to players. What is striking is that it is very lively and offers breathtaking panoramas. It is a living continent that does not lack life, as players will be able to experience by traveling through the different areas.

[maplesyrupgl]

I just really hate how Dracthyr and Evokers are locked to each other. It just feels so unnecessary.

Why not have Dracthyr be the humanoid form with all the customisation options as a neutral race that can play other classes.

And have Evoker be a class that transforms into a dragondude that flies around. But they can be any race, including Dracthyr. We don't need the horns and scales customisation for the class, 99% of dragons in WoW manifest as regular members of the race anyway, Chrome for example.

Obviously, the expectation is to make a Drac'thyr Evoker, like a Pandaren Monk, but other options are there.

I just cannot for the life of me imagine why they've done it the way they have...

[Chickat]

There will inevitably be a big bad in the expansion . However, just as we experienced with Mists of Pandaria, we will have to wait to find out who it is. We'll start by learning more about the threats to Dragonflight, just like we did with the Sha and Mogu on MoP. Eventually, we will find out who the threat of Dragonflight is. It will be necessary to explore, understand the world and wait before knowing who is the main threat of the extension. You have to understand how the story unfolds so as not to imagine that a character comes out of nowhere.

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Only 4? I hope there's more than 4 new dungeons.

There are 8 dungeons. Its likely Current seasons will be split in 2.

Season 1 and 2 will cover the expansion launch to the new tier raid and zone so 6-7 months.

Season 1 has 4 new dungeons and 4 old ones with M+ Draconic affix. I made Draconic up but its the affix for season 1 and 2 lets say.
Season 2 has the other 4 new dungeons and 4 old ones with M+ Draconic.
Season 3 will have a repeat of the Season 1 dungeons but with a new affix
Season 4 will have a repeat of the season 2 dungeons with a new affix

Repeat for 5-8 seasons in an expansion.

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Would be nice if each season meant a new batch of dungeons. That would certainly make up for less at launch IMO.

I think they would just add the new dungeon into the season and have 9 dungeons that season.

[huth]

There are 8 dungeons. Its likely Current seasons will be split in 2.

Season 1 and 2 will cover the expansion launch to the new tier raid and zone so 6-7 months.

Season 1 has 4 new dungeons and 4 old ones with M+ Draconic affix. I made Draconic up but its the affix for season 1 and 2 lets say.
Season 2 has the other 4 new dungeons and 4 old ones with M+ Draconic.
Season 3 will have a repeat of the Season 1 dungeons but with a new affix
Season 4 will have a repeat of the season 2 dungeons with a new affix

Repeat for 5-8 seasons in an expansion.

Either way, there have to be at minimum 8 dungeons or it just wouldn't work. Not sure why so many people can't figure that out.

[Merryck]

Imagine they add more visages it would be like getting infinite free race changes at the barbershop.

[Keyalios]

That looks better, but maybe too thick.

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The size of Dragonflight's continent is hard to pin down, but it's one of the largest continents Blizzard has offered to players. What is striking is that it is very lively and offers breathtaking panoramas. It is a living continent that does not lack life, as players will be able to experience by traveling through the different areas.

Yeah I agree. It looks alot better to me but I would go with a middle ground between the two. But I would prefer a bit fat over too thin especially for draconic entities.

[rhorle]

NGL something like this mockup from reddit would fix a TON of my complaints.

I think the existing model is fine and that mock up has way to tiny of a head and way to bulky. Makes the whole thing look weird.

[Chickat]

Well after watching all the information available ATM, Dragonflight is definitively a step in the right way.

I really like everything that we have seen, although I am worried about class balance with so many talents, it has to be a nightmare for them; also, Dragon riding, it could be very fun or very annoying.

Sadly, no console version, so I am afraid that I will not be able to play it

Everything about the expansion looks good. My only issue is that I worry there isn't enough new. Itl still be good fun, but it needs 1 hook to keep players. Housing, some new feature. Anything.

[Keyalios]

While it isn't how I would have structured the class spec-wise, I can understand the decisions they made. I do like having Blue and Green flights integrated into the class, and having the ability to be a blue or green dragon. In addition, having some Bronze influence on the healing spec could be very interesting.

I do feel that they should have done a tank spec, but I understand the reasoning behind it. We have a lot of tanks in WoW currently, and I can tell they wanted to keep this class largely outside of melee range.

Agreed with you on all of the above. Blue and Green is great and Bronze feels good as part of heals though I would prefer DPS a la Chromie. Though Red as DPS makes no sense nor does the exclusion of Black as a spec based flight rather than just a base. I do think they should do a third- again Hunter proves it's possible.

On that note as they are ranged I'm curious what weapons they will wield. I will probably use them to solo old dungeons (another reason I wish they could be tanks) and the more they can equip the less change of me being annoyed I get a good BOP item that I can't unlock the TMog for lol.

[shoc]

I just really hate how Dracthyr and Evokers are locked to each other. It just feels so unnecessary.

Why not have Dracthyr be the humanoid form with all the customisation options as a neutral race that can play other classes.

And have Evoker be a class that transforms into a dragondude that flies around. But they can be any race, including Dracthyr. We don't need the horns and scales customisation for the class, 99% of dragons in WoW manifest as regular members of the race anyway, Chrome for example.

Obviously, the expectation is to make a Drac'thyr Evoker, like a Pandaren Monk, but other options are there.

I just cannot for the life of me imagine why they've done it the way they have...

Have they said outright that Dracthyr can only be a Blood Elf Male and Human Female? It could just be what has been previewed so far.

I hope they do end up expanding the customization race to all possible races, Ebonhorn being a Highmountain Tauren, Chromie being a Gnome, so many Night Elf Dragons, it only makes sense.

That way, technically every race could be an Evoker. Even if they all reverted to the Dragon form in combat.

[wowrefugee]

I just really hate how Dracthyr and Evokers are locked to each other. It just feels so unnecessary.

Why not have Dracthyr be the humanoid form with all the customisation options as a neutral race that can play other classes.

And have Evoker be a class that transforms into a dragondude that flies around. But they can be any race, including Dracthyr. We don't need the horns and scales customisation for the class, 99% of dragons in WoW manifest as regular members of the race anyway, Chrome for example.

Obviously, the expectation is to make a Drac'thyr Evoker, like a Pandaren Monk, but other options are there.

I just cannot for the life of me imagine why they've done it the way they have...

Yeah, it's frustrating. It feels like the devs have listened in some areas - talent overhauls, lack of AP and borrowed power, etc

But when players talk about opening up class/race combos, or wanting to choose forms in combat (worgen/moonkin), they run the exact opposite direction of players feedback and create a locked down race/class.

[Keyalios]

I think the existing model is fine and that mock up has way to tiny of a head and way to bulky. Makes the whole thing look weird.

Funny I think the same about the current. The thin body and the small head just doesn't scream Dragon to me. WoW has always been cartoony and stylized but I just don't feel it in the current models.

[Chickat]

Tuskarr are most likely coming either way. There's no reason they'd get updated models and female models if they weren't planning to use them imo. They even gave them small baby Tuskarrs:

I think playable tuskcar and vrykul are coming. Idk which would go to which, but I speculate Tusk for alliance and Vrykul for the horde.

[maplesyrupgl]

Have they said outright that Dracthyr can only be a Blood Elf Male and Human Female? It could just be what has been previewed so far.

I hope they do end up expanding the customization race to all possible races, Ebonhorn being a Highmountain Tauren, Chromie being a Gnome, so many Night Elf Dragons, it only makes sense.

That way, technically every race could be an Evoker. Even if they all reverted to the Dragon form in combat.

They haven't said it, but the fact that they haven't said otherwise speaks volumes.

What I'm saying is they don't even need to add the customisation to other races. That's probably why the only visages you can do are Belf male/Fem human, because adding such comprehensive customisation options to every race would be heaps of work.


But like why can't I just be a regular old Tauren like Ebonhorn who takes the dragon form in combat worgen-style?

[Nuggsy]

Let's go evokers!!! I knew we'd get a dragon class.

I got to apologize for my little bro who stole my mmo champ PW. Guy has a very unhealthy obsession with techy fantasy.

Well convinced my folks to send his ass to boot camp and found my pw. Sorry for all his nonsense these past few months.

So stoked though!

Idk if anyone is buying this and if they are, they're pretty naïve. It would have been better to just not say anything at all or make a new profile. Never seen/heard of you and I've already seen several people with quotes from you as their signature along with this very post in a completely different topic with others piling on. Sometimes we're just super wrong about something and we need to accept it.

[SunspotAnims]

Well, the french interview apparently says it's one of the largest continents ever. I wonder if they counted EK/Kalimdor when they said that.

Probably not EK/Kalimdor, but if it comes close to Northrend in scale then it's a win in my books.

[Chickat]

Crazy proposition but hear me out... what if they are getting updated model because they are going to be used in the new expansion...

The model update isnt random, they are just the creature chosen this expac to be in the story

Probably, but Vrukul from legion were already almost player ready I belive. Those look great too. I wouldn't be surprised if they come, but also wouldn't be surprised if they don't.

[Kagdar]

I just really hate how Dracthyr and Evokers are locked to each other. It just feels so unnecessary.

Why not have Dracthyr be the humanoid form with all the customisation options as a neutral race that can play other classes.

And have Evoker be a class that transforms into a dragondude that flies around. But they can be any race, including Dracthyr. We don't need the horns and scales customisation for the class, 99% of dragons in WoW manifest as regular members of the race anyway, Chrome for example.

Obviously, the expectation is to make a Drac'thyr Evoker, like a Pandaren Monk, but other options are there.

I just cannot for the life of me imagine why they've done it the way they have...

They can make anmations that are unque to the combo