Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

You just know there are going to be gliding and racing world quests for end game. The Kirintor/tortollan "fun" quests of end game.

If we get updrafts then my dream would be an achievement or similar that has you weave a specific path through all the zones, starting from the lowest one all the way to the peak.
Just really make flying something that feels challenging to do perfectly, not something that is given to you because actually needing to learn how to navigate a zone is boring.

[Raetary]

Did we? Not in game. Is there some gossip text with Nozdormu taking it from Thrall and then taking it back in time?.

I'm pretty sure Nozdormu mentions it at the end of DS.
That they returned it back to the point in time where it belongs.

[Teriz]

I saw in the interviews that they said at least two times, two different people, that the Evoker will have the power of the 5 dragonflights, but then they only talk specifically about the blue, red, green and bronze (first two for the dps spec and the second two for the healing spec). Did they talk about the black flight power anywhere? Or is there any chance those would be unlocked later as a third spec? I don't play tanks at all, but feel bad for them getting put aside...

One of the abilities shown in the deep dive with Ion was the Dracthyr performing Deathwing’s Cataclysm ability from HotS. So yeah, Black Dragonflight abilities are in there. I could imagine them utilizing some of Deathwing HotS’ utility and self healing abilities.

[Zulggun]

I thought Darkfallen were just nathanos looking undead? Well preserved Elven or human looking pale skinned red eyes typically as Dark Rangers.

Oh I checked and you are probably right. I thought darkfallen is just another name for Sanlayn. But I guess darkfallen is broader term that also includes undead elves like dark rangers? I dunno really.

[ercarp]

One of the abilities shown in the deep dive with Ion was the Dracthyr performing Deathwing’s Cataclysm ability from HotS. So yeah, Black Dragonflight abilities are in there. I could imagine them utilizing some of Deathwing’s utility and self healing abilities.

Btw it felt like they actually had a lot of abilities similar to what your class concept proposed. Like the Wing Buffet thing for example. Kudos to you for that.

[Chickat]

Will it be better than a dedicated endgame zone though? That's my main take. And right now - based on previous experiences - I have to say: no. It could be. But for that the zones need to be massive and with lots of stuff to do.

I mean Ogrila and Skettis worked in TBC quite well, but that's pretty far back. I don't have a good recent example where this concept worked, that's why I'm hesitant.

MoP is the most recent example of it working.

[Nyel]

Did all of those open right at the beginning though? Or were they staggered?

The second raid tends to come out close to the first one, SL not included, so I suppose it becomes a bit of a nuanced question at that point.

They were all available at launch, at least the ones in TBC, WotLK and Cataclysm. I'm not 100% sure about MoP.

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MoP is the most recent example of it working.

That's still 10 years ago. I'm not against it, I just have my concerns after BfA (no endgame zone) and Shadowlands (terrible endgame zone). I just don't understand why they scrapped the idea behind Suramar for later expansions.

[therumblings]

I am absolutely disappointed by the lack of pre-order tho.

Lack of pre-order makes me think it's not coming out for quite some time, Blizzard would love to get all those same day pre-orders people always regret lol.

[Chickat]

I find it weird how people mention that humanoid dragons are bad, and then modify them as "fixed" to making them more humanoid...

Like why have all that focus on the neck? Sure it looks better but primarily because we are used to those proportions in WoW races, but dragons have long necks and it makes perfect sense. The long necks should be kept.

Time for a /s

Add cash shop neck customization and if you select the longest neck you get a portable AH.

Eh, I don't agree but I respect your opinion. <3.

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If we get updrafts then my dream would be an achievement or similar that has you weave a specific path through all the zones, starting from the lowest one all the way to the peak.
Just really make flying something that feels challenging to do perfectly, not something that is given to you because actually needing to learn how to navigate a zone is boring.

That sounds awesome. Could get a new title for doing it too. Windborne or something cheesy like that.

[Nyel]

Lack of pre-order makes me think it's not coming out for quite some time, Blizzard would love to get all those same day pre-orders people always regret lol.

Yeah, this is another very concerning thing. I mean, how difficult can it be to have pre-orders ready? It's such a weird thing to announce this expansion so late and then not have the pre-orders ready - hello? What's going on, I'm confused.

[Xilurm]

As much as I like that game, I don't understand the mentality. I've read an "example" where Cata "copied" XIV's Bahamut (lol?) despite GW2 showing the contrary with The Shatterer. Dragons are just epic in scale and these kind of cinematic scenes are common in all media.

Yeah I love FFXIV way more than WoW at this point. But that clip is sped up lmao. Like, come on.

[therumblings]

Yeah, this is another very concerning thing. I mean, how difficult can it be to have pre-orders ready? It's such a weird thing to announce this expansion so late and then not have the pre-orders ready - hello? What's going on, I'm confused.

I guess they're waiting for 9.2.5. But it's still strange that all of the supposed pre-order stuff was hotfixed into live.

[Chickat]

Oh I checked and you are probably right. I thought darkfallen is just another name for Sanlayn. But I guess darkfallen is broader term that also includes undead elves like dark rangers? I dunno really.

Thats what I thought, but I'm not 100% sure.

[maxje98]

Okey so I might have missed it, but did they announce what to do at max level? Like I know we have M+ and raid, but is there something else? Like the Maw was or Suramar. Just something else to do

[Chickat]

They were all available at launch, at least the ones in TBC, WotLK and Cataclysm. I'm not 100% sure about MoP.

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That's still 10 years ago. I'm not against it, I just have my concerns after BfA (no endgame zone) and Shadowlands (terrible endgame zone). I just don't understand why they scrapped the idea behind Suramar for later expansions.

It was a lot of work for players to only do once. A lot of players disliked it too. My dad calls it Sewermar.

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Okey so I might have missed it, but did they announce what to do at max level? Like I know we have M+ and raid, but is there something else? Like the Maw was or Suramar. Just something else to do

No end game only zone, but they don't usually announce endgame stuff outside of raids etc in expansion reveals. That happens much closer to Alpha and beta, and in followup interviews.

[therumblings]

Okey so I might have missed it, but did they announce what to do at max level? Like I know we have M+ and raid, but is there something else? Like the Maw was or Suramar. Just something else to do

Max levels zones being a thing at launch is extremely rare and only happened in MoP and Legion (I don't really count the Maw since it's 9.0 state was very barebones) so I'd expect some sort of Dragonflight campaign at 9.0 with a new zone in 9.1.

[Teriz]

Btw it felt like they actually had a lot of abilities similar to what your class concept proposed. Like the Wing Buffet thing for example. Kudos to you for that.

Thanks! I was very pleased with what I saw yesterday (which is probably why I’ve been a bit defensive over this new class). Also I support your drive for more appearance options for the Dracthyr. I’m definitely down for a Blue or Black swole Dracthyr.

[therumblings]

Have any fan sites compiled a list of Evoker spells and abilities yet? I've seen a few gifs but I may have missed an interview or two going into more details.

[Chickat]

Few notable quotes from the front page.

Flying in the Dragon Isles will not require a Pathfinder achievement.

A Threads of Fate leveling system for alts will be utilized in Dragonflight and Blizzard is looking into making more systems account-wide.

Blizzard also plans to provide a more in-depth open world experience going forward.

Wtf does the third point mean?

[LalaGamer]

I have few questions, what will happen to the Night elf's and Undead ?? Will they get a new place to live or they are still be stuck on other cities?
Any idea how will this story progress in the future.