Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Shadochi]

Few notable quotes from the front page.

Flying in the Dragon Isles will not require a Pathfinder achievement.

A Threads of Fate leveling system for alts will be utilized in Dragonflight and Blizzard is looking into making more systems account-wide.

Blizzard also plans to provide a more in-depth open world experience going forward.

Wtf does the third point mean?

Not sure about #3, but in general based on the announcement it seemed like they showed just stuff relating directly to dragons + talents and UI.

Like a lot of info was shared later in interviews. Mostly regarding systems that would carry over in some for.

As my guess for #3, I would say perhaps the way we interact with the world? Dragonriding seems to be about that.

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I have few questions, what will happen to the Night elf's and Undead ?? Will they get a new place to live or they are still be stuck on other cities?
Any idea how will this story progress in the future.

Tyrande is said to play a role in 10.0. And also we will have to wait for SL to finish to get more info on this

[maxje98]

I have few questions, what will happen to the Night elf's and Undead ?? Will they get a new place to live or they are still be stuck on other cities?
Any idea how will this story progress in the future.

As for the Night Elves, there is datamined seed that the Winter Queen gives, so it might be possible she provides them with a seed for a new world tree (speculation).
As for the Forsaken, I don't know what is planned for them. Thought I saw on Twitter that there were some changes to Brill, but don't know for sure.

[Nyel]

A Threads of Fate leveling system for alts will be utilized in Dragonflight and Blizzard is looking into making more systems account-wide.

So this means we're forced to go a linear path through the DI like it was in Shadowlands?

[Valysar]

Sargeras' sword will be transformed into a tree with the seed in 9.2.5

So this means we're forced to go a linear path through the DI like it was in Shadowlands?

Yes

[Teriz]

Have any fan sites compiled a list of Evoker spells and abilities yet? I've seen a few gifs but I may have missed an interview or two going into more details.

Not yet. So far I’ve seen the following in a few videos;

Cataclysm: Flying in a straight path breathing down a steam of fire (Deathwing HotS)

Abundance: Creates a large circle of healing that culminates into a flower of energy (Alexstraza HotS)

Wing Buffet: Flaps wings, pushing back target (Alexstraza HotS)

Flame Breath: Typical dragon breath fire ability

Arcane Breath: A stream of arcane energy coming out of the dragons mouth. Actually looks sort of like a laser.

Twin Arcane Bolts: Launches twin bolts of Arcane energy towards targets

Prismatic fireball: Launches fireball in a parabola that starts out as five colors, then rapidly coalesces into a fireball (very cool looking btw).

Green mist: Summons a wall of green mist. Seemingly a healing ability.

HoT enhancer: uses Bronze time power to speed up HoT effects.

Flight: Dracthyr can fly and perform abilities while in combat!

That’s what I’ve seen so far.

[Shadochi]

Sargeras' sword will be transformed into a tree with the seed in 9.2.5

While I'm not against it, I doubt that a world tree would be put over an old god prison again

[Hitei]

Few notable quotes from the front page.

Flying in the Dragon Isles will not require a Pathfinder achievement.

A Threads of Fate leveling system for alts will be utilized in Dragonflight and Blizzard is looking into making more systems account-wide.

Blizzard also plans to provide a more in-depth open world experience going forward.

Wtf does the third point mean?

I'd expect more Zereth Mortis-y approaches. Instead of just going through a zone and finding a rare, or a chest to loot, it'll be like finding a sealed door in a cliff wall that has hidden switches to open it that have to be looked for, or a cave with jump puzzles, or an NPC having a problem who asks you to go get something from nearby, nost as a quest but just as a dialogue.

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That’s what I’ve seen so far.

Very cool, glad they took some stuff from HotS.

[Nyel]

Sargeras' sword will be transformed into a tree with the seed in 9.2.5

Yes

I really don't like this forced concept of a storyline while questing. They deliberately opened this up in Legion just to go back to it in SL and DF? Lame.

[Wangming]

Few notable quotes from the front page.

Flying in the Dragon Isles will not require a Pathfinder achievement.

A Threads of Fate leveling system for alts will be utilized in Dragonflight and Blizzard is looking into making more systems account-wide.

Blizzard also plans to provide a more in-depth open world experience going forward.

Wtf does the third point mean?

No clue. Hopefully adding Genshin Impact to the list of ripped off games. But the cynic in me says that it is just a buzzword like savage was for WoD.

[Santandame]

To be honest I think it would be better than Tanaan or BS to give it to us in 10.1 (patch that might or might not have a zone).

Since every player experienced Tanaan and BS, but the starting zone will be limited to Dracthyr, so less people would've experienced it, and furthermore players would see it less since they wouldn't do it on x number of alts. I assume we might also get some evil black dragon lair there where we fight to reclaim black dragon eggs for Wrathion.

But why?

You can bet the majority of players will experience it at least once just to try the new class and race out. Some just to see the new zone and story there.

Just give us something new instead. Reusing that zone is just cheap.

[Wangming]

I'd expect more Zereth Mortis-y approaches. Instead of just going through a zone and finding a rare, or a chest to loot, it'll be like finding a sealed door in a cliff wall that has hidden switches to open it that have to be looked for, or a cave with jump puzzles, or an NPC having a problem who asks you to go get something from nearby, nost as a quest but just as a dialogue.

Yeah exactly like this.

[Sondrelk]

I really don't like this forced concept of a storyline while questing. They deliberately opened this up in Legion just to go back to it in SL and DF? Lame.

With a set levelling oath you can have escalating threats, and more effectively teach players the mechanics of an expansion, as well as ensure an actual narrative progression.

And besides, unless you have several accounts you only need to do it once, so it isn't like it really matter all that much whether you see unknown zone #1 or #2 first, you will probably not have gotten a grasp on which on you like or dislike levelling in anyways.

The current system is the best of both worlds. The narrative progression of the old levelling, and the freedom for alts of the newer.

[Chickat]

I really don't like this forced concept of a storyline while questing. They deliberately opened this up in Legion just to go back to it in SL and DF? Lame.

But its good. They can tell a much better story with a focused narrative this way. The story for Legion and BFA was all over the place. You can still do them in any order for alts.

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With a set levelling oath you can have escalating threats, and more effectively teach players the mechanics of an expansion, as well as ensure an actual narrative progression.

And besides, unless you have several accounts you only need to do it once, so it isn't like it really matter all that much whether you see unknown zone #1 or #2 first, you will probably not have gotten a grasp on which on you like or dislike levelling in anyways.

The current system is the best of both worlds. The narrative progression of the old levelling, and the freedom for alts of the newer.

Yeah, I don't see any downsides personally.

[Sondrelk]

But why?

You can bet the majority of players will experience it at least once just to try the new class and race out. Some just to see the new zone and story there.

Just give us something new instead. Reusing that zone is just cheap.

Everyone saw the Broken Shore during the Legion pre-patch, but you had it for 7.2 just fine.

Just have some extra areas open when you return, or some new enemies or means of transport.

[Shadochi]

But why?

You can bet the majority of players will experience it at least once just to try the new class and race out. Some just to see the new zone and story there.

Just give us something new instead. Reusing that zone is just cheap.

Exactly, meaning that the starting zone will be performed around once per player. While Tanaan and Broken Shore were completed way more than that per player because of it being mandatory for alts for some time (if you dont use the MoP skip for Tanaan, Broken Shore was also in prepatch before any skip)

[Chickat]

Also I looked at the list of posts per user in this thread, and I made top 20 again. yay.

Im gonna have to start shitposting if I want to end up In the top 10.

[Shadochi]

IMO the leveling order for zones and then threads of fate is the best approach to leveling. Upside of Legion and BfA style could be less bottlenecking in zones but honestly for SL I dont remember having a bottleneck

[Sondrelk]

Also I looked at the list of posts per user in this thread, and I made top 20 again. yay.

Im gonna have to start shitposting if I want to end up In the top 10.

Where can you see this list? I feel Iike I wasn't massively active, but would be curious to see if I am wrong.

[Nyel]

But its good. They can tell a much better story with a focused narrative this way. The story for Legion and BFA was all over the place. You can still do them in any order for alts.

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Yeah, I don't see any downsides personally.

Was the Shadowlands story really better because of that? I'm not sure about it. All of the Covenants could have worked in their own way without a set order. It really didn't matter much as the "mysteries" where not that mysterious (where's the Anima?).

Doing Revendreth first or Bastion last could have worked as well as the NPCs still were bound to their own zone, it was just the overarching narrative that was losely connected.