Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

If there is one thing which I think will sink the new class then it would be not being able to wear armor in the Dragon form, even if it's only a select few slots like shoulders, chests and belts.

They can make it as elaborate as they want, but nothing can quite compare to being able to make your dragon look like a hillbilly farmer, or some obscure comic book villain from the 80s.

I disagree. Dragons don't wear armor, and I think most players are fine with their dragon wearing minimal to no armor as shown here;



The only real hangup is all of them being stuck in skinny mode, but I think that's going to be resolved pretty quickly, because its an easy fix, and Blizzard was crowing about customizations for this race/class.

I really don't think anything is going to sink this class. It allows you to essentially be a dragon (even to the point of being able to fly while in combat), and a lot of people are going to find that very appealing.

[Raetary]

Interesting talk http s://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/a-suspicious-4ch-leak-from-3-days-ago-speculation925-spoilers/1223381

This could lead to a new type of Night Elf variation, similar to Lightbound Forsaken. Maybe Night Elves who draw power from the Winter Queen instead of Elune, for instance.

Huh, haven't even considered that.

The AR is probably just Darkfallen for both factions, but keeping Darfallen on the horde and getting a Starrande AR for the alliance would also be great.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Tuskarr allied race here we go!

don't worry, if its even true, then we will get another blood elves model but under different name. xD

[Eurhetemec]

Ff14 most players have 1 character. You most definitely have to regrind stuff on alts. It's a non comparison imo.

Have you played FFXIV much? It's a much closer comparison than you'd think. Like I said, pre-FFXIV I'd have agreed with you.

[Berkilak]

All the end game world content is tied to reps. With the reps being account wide it would kill the world for alts. Alts would just instantly buy these from a rep and move on to raiding. All alts would be is raid loggers. I don't see the appeal in that.

That's their choice. Let them make it. And you make your own. Let people play the way they want to without a million different hoops.

[Eurhetemec]

They just need to make them be able to wear armor in dragonform and I'm willing to overlook everything else right now. Maybe eventually they will give the Dracthyr more classes, but wearing armor in dragonform is really important when it goes live.

I think anyone who is expecting full armor in dragonform is so out-of-touch with reality re: how Blizzard operates (and again, has always operated, since Vanilla), and so misunderstands the "dragon-person" fantasy that they're inevitably going to be massively disappointed. At very most we might get chest/shoulders. But that's it. And even that is "not getting it".

A bulky form option would be a vastly bigger deal than armor, in terms of impacting popularity.

[Zulggun]

don't worry, if its even true, then we will get another blood elves model but under different name. xD

We already getting that, have you seen male "humanoid" dracthyr form?

[Dreen]

i think colors do alot for dracthyr, some colors make them look wimpy as fuck, like the red one theyve shown, while others can look quite good, black, white, the teal variant from the blizzard preview page... would still be nice if they gave the male ones a 20% bulk though, cant even tell whats male/female

[Wangming]

Have you played FFXIV much? It's a much closer comparison than you'd think. Like I said, pre-FFXIV I'd have agreed with you.

As a huge FFXIV shill I'll say that FFXIV is super fucking unfriendly to alts. To offset this there isn't much you need alts for as you can have all classes and all professions on one character.

[Raetary]

cant even tell whats male/female

It's a lizard.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I think there's no chance to new classes to be added for this new race.

at most, there's like 1% chance that they will be able to wear armor in dragon form or we get additional body type/model tweaked to at least have a difference.

It's a lizard.

We have female and tauren pandas with boobs, don't try logic here.

[Zulggun]

i think colors do alot for dracthyr, some colors make them look wimpy as fuck, like the red one theyve shown, while others can look quite good, black, white, the teal variant from the blizzard preview page... would still be nice if they gave the male ones a 20% bulk though, cant even tell whats male/female

Yeah and while we're at it, give females huge boobs so we can easily spot them.

[therumblings]

I think anyone who is expecting full armor in dragonform is so out-of-touch with reality re: how Blizzard operates (and again, has always operated, since Vanilla), and so misunderstands the "dragon-person" fantasy that they're inevitably going to be massively disappointed. At very most we might get chest/shoulders. But that's it. And even that is "not getting it".

A bulky form option would be a vastly bigger deal than armor, in terms of impacting popularity.

At the very least they should give a huge amount of customization options to the preset armor they have on their dragon form, lack of transmog is just gonna suck because a lot of people wanted a Dragonkin that could wear armor, but if there is enough barber options to change it can soften the blow.

[Eurhetemec]

As a huge FFXIV shill I'll say that FFXIV is super fucking unfriendly to alts. To offset this there isn't much you need alts for as you can have all classes and all professions on one character.

Exactly. You don't need alts. And for most players, that's freeing.

WoW can't work like that, but we could reduce the re-grinding to make it closer, in practical terms.

[Teriz]

I think anyone who is expecting full armor in dragonform is so out-of-touch with reality re: how Blizzard operates (and again, has always operated, since Vanilla), and so misunderstands the "dragon-person" fantasy that they're inevitably going to be massively disappointed. At very most we might get chest/shoulders. But that's it. And even that is "not getting it".

A bulky form option would be a vastly bigger deal than armor, in terms of impacting popularity.

i think colors do alot for dracthyr, some colors make them look wimpy as fuck, like the red one theyve shown, while others can look quite good, black, white, the teal variant from the blizzard preview page... would still be nice if they gave the male ones a 20% bulk though, cant even tell whats male/female

Yep. Bulk is the real issue here. Some players (myself included) prefer being large, imposing characters. I think if you resolve that issue, you're removing 70-80% of complaints. Seeing that Reddit alteration made me like the race 100% more than I already did.

[Eurhetemec]

At the very least they should give a huge amount of customization options to the preset armor they have on their dragon form, lack of transmog is just gonna suck because a lot of people wanted a Dragonkin that could wear armor, but if there is enough barber options to change it can soften the blow.

I definitely agree with that. It might be cool if raids (etc.) gave you extra dragon-armour/jewellery customization options, either as drops or just unlocked by killing certain bosses, too, though the very second that happened, Druids would be humping Blizzard's leg frantically shrieking "ME TOO DADDY BLIZZARD ME TOO!".

[Shadochi]

i think colors do alot for dracthyr, some colors make them look wimpy as fuck, like the red one theyve shown, while others can look quite good, black, white, the teal variant from the blizzard preview page... would still be nice if they gave the male ones a 20% bulk though, cant even tell whats male/female

Honestly, the bulk option shouldn't be related to the option of gender in human/elf form. It makes more sense that way seeing how dragons don't really have such genders and can choose a different one for humanoid form

[Raetary]

I said it before, but they should either add Drakonids as another dragon race option, so we can fulfill our regular dragon fantasies.

Or keep slowly expanding the dracthyrs humanoid customization options to other race models, the class is quasi available to all.

[therumblings]

I said it before, but they should either add Drakonids as another dragon race option, so we can fulfill our regular dragon fantasies.

Or keep slowly expanding the dracthyrs humanoid customization options to other race models, the class is quasi available to all.

Or both at the same time, that would be awesome.

[Hugnomo]

Interesting talk http s://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/a-suspicious-4ch-leak-from-3-days-ago-speculation925-spoilers/1223381

I seems less and less likely, but I'm still hoping for shadowlands covenant playable races.
When can we expect to know what it is? (if we actually do get some sort of ar)