Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Marlamin]

Ultimately, I think the order they were developed in makes no difference because in either scenario they've decided to give what's supposed to be a completely new and unique rig to a warlock's pet, when it should have only been used by the new race.

We've seen Blizzard reuse rigs from other races in the past, so that's nothing new, but they've usually had the courtesy of waiting a couple of expansions before doing that. What they've done here just feels bad and cheapens the impact of getting a "new" race.

I personally don't think this is that big of a deal. Realistically, I'm not going to notice two different models move the same/similarly in the few times they're on screen together and running at the same time. If them allowing to get a new race (or new pet) out of the door quicker by basing either on the same rig and then building on top of that, that only seems like a bonus to me.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

If Drac'thyr actually had a melee or tank specialization, I think these "bulky" arguments would hold some water. I personally prefer a form that looks physically robust. But... why would they need to be? As designed, they're functionally Mages and Healers entirely. There's no need for bulk, from a design point of view.

Just so more people can enjoy it too, people should never be opposed to more options for players to have.

There's no reason for female/feminine pandas to have boobs or vulpera, yet you have it, its a fantasy game.

[Nerovar]

"Drakthyr" are some everquest level hype assassination

I want to know who is responsible for approving this race/class and who came up with the designs.

Can you imagine the interaction?
"This looks like scalesona fetish smut. Drop it."

[Nightmare Queen]

This should've been another race with multiple classes.

Agreed, but I think there was an interview there they said that other classes don't 'fit' Dracthyr

[Cheezits]

I don't know who is responsible for approving this race/class and who came up with the designs.

Can you imagine the interaction?
"This looks like scalesona fetish smut. Drop it."

The race was 100% meant for that audience... and based off twitter, they love it.

[Malorne the White Stag]

Agreed, but I think there was an interview there they said that other classes don't 'fit' Dracthyr

I meant that would be another race. Like dracthyr would stay the way they are but we would receive a second drakonid race that wouldn't have all the dragon powers. I mean, we've had two races in past expacs.

[Shadochi]

Which doesn't sound too enticing if I'm being honest.

DH was an Elf or Elf exclusive race. Still weird to me that they didn't give DH to the 2 allied races of elves

[Teriz]

Agreed, but I think there was an interview there they said that other classes don't 'fit' Dracthyr

Dracthyr are just the compromise model for standard dragons. They couldn't allow you to play as a standard dragon, so they gave you a humanoid model with all the standard dragon's attributes.

[Nerovar]

Agreed, but I think there was an interview there they said that other classes don't 'fit' Dracthyr

Seems like this entirely made-up dragon hybrid race was flawed from the start then and they should have gone back to the drawing board.

[Ersula]

And, honestly, no idea how long Dracthyr has been in the works for, but the new Dreadlord model added in Shadowlands also looks similar animation wise so might be connected to that as well.

You make a convincing argument that Dracthyr are the result of some kind of suck cost fallacy. "Well we spent 4 years on this ugly pig of an idea we can't not use it"

[Marlamin]

"Drakthyr" are some everquest level hype assassination

Or, you know, the fact there's an entire subforum for 10.0 now instead of just this thread. This happens pretty much every time until the alpha/beta starts up and builds start rolling in.

You make a convincing argument that Dracthyr are the result of some kind of suck cost fallacy. "Well we spent 4 years on this ugly pig of an idea we can't not use it"

By that logic, those arguing against the reuse of assets/rigs are effectively arguing for less content, so yeah, by all means reuse rigs/assets. I'm sure the next world revamp will reuse a ton of assets from the Dragon Isles in e.g. Northrend as some zones are pretty much the same themes. Garrison assets are still getting reused today. I don't see how any of that is a big deal.

[Syegfryed]

And what would be the point of such a race?

Are you rly serious right now?

It'd just be Draenei 2.0.

No they would not be, and funny of you to say that when they are demon hunter 2.0

A dragon race without dragon abilities is just another big, bulky race option that adds nothing new to the game.

Who said they would not have dragon abilities? you know races have racials right?

Did you ever played other games with humanoid dragons?

In D&D dragonborns can use 5 diferent dragon breaths depending on their color, like blue lightining and red fire, they get resistance to damage and other shenanigans


Literally any game did better than wow on this derpartent, its a embarassment to call this a race

[Nerovar]

The race was 100% meant for that audience... and based off twitter, they love it.

I love what these people are doing to our game.

[Syegfryed]

Agreed, but I think there was an interview there they said that other classes don't 'fit' Dracthyr

Of course it don't fit

is like saying a boomkin or a demon hunter should be other classes

[Cheezits]

If they think that Dracthyr look silly with weapons, they should lock them to casters only. That would be a cool way of letting the dragon form be other classes instead of just locking it to the visage form.

Evoker, Priest, Mage (already use mage spells), Druid (already use druid spells), Warlock

[Syegfryed]

I love what these people are doing to our game.

Funny thing is how blizzard don't learn that people on twitter being happy means nothing, they were happy for everythin in shadowlands and the game was garbage

[Shadochi]

If they think that Dracthyr look silly with weapons, they should lock them to casters only. That would be a cool way of letting the dragon form be other classes instead of just locking it to the visage form.

Evoker, Priest, Mage (already use mage spells), Druid (already use druid spells), Warlock

But what when my Arcane Mage is out of mana and wants to hit the enemy with a staff

[Cheezits]

Funny thing is how blizzard don't learn that people on twitter being happy means nothing, they were happy for everythin in shadowlands and the game was garbage

Except that it means the target audience for the race likes the race, just like Vulpera were aimed primarily at a new audience for WoW.

[Shadochi]

Funny thing is how blizzard don't learn that people on twitter being happy means nothing, they were happy for everythin in shadowlands and the game was garbage

Happy people on twitter = free twitter marketing

[wowrefugee]

I have a handful of issues with Dracthyr, but the appearance isn't one of them, and I'm not a 'scaley'. I do think some of the edits, where they slightly adjust the head size or chest width look better, though.

Earlier in the thread I mentioned how I hoped they'd let the humanoid form be other classes, and keep the dragon locked to evoker. A few people really liked that idea, but I realized there's 0% chance Blizzard does it. You can't have the humanoid form - which is just a visage for the dragon - without the dragon. Which is a shame! I wish they had done the lore for this race/class different.