Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Jodmos]

It is a little weird.

For the first time, I'm actually wanting to buy a WoW print. That Alexstraza with the dragons art is sick.

That was something I expected to be there. Plus possibly the shot that was leaked of her and koranos on the tower 9similar to how the conematic shot of Bolvar was leaked early and was a print).

Obviously there was little substance to the presentations, just the usual slapping each others backs and saying how great the new stuff is. It's possible they didn't go down the route of getting prints done as they wanted to keep this closer to their chest before the reveal. Ironic given they leaked the title themselves. Though the lack of actual detail on the tip your toe in the water (not a deep dive by any means) presentation would imply they maybe aren't that far along with the system iteration.

[Teriz]

Tbh, I think the above image is a bit TOO bulky, but I'm not against it.

I agree somewhat. I think this one would be a better look;

[Jodmos]

Tbh, I think the above image is a bit TOO bulky, but I'm not against it.

The one that was shown in the other thread of the black version looked about right. Not too bulky but bulky enough to look like it is a threat. The skinny model just looks a bit wussy. Can't see Deathwing thinking they'd be able to do anything he wanted them for.

Edit - Teriz posted the one I mean.

[Shadochi]

Both the raid bulky version and the black more muscular and harder edges version look good and I hope both get added alongside the current one.

And if we push more for them they probably will get added as cutomization options for body type.

[Teriz]

The one that was shown in the other thread of the black version looked about right. Not too bulky but bulky enough to look like it is a threat. The skinny model just looks a bit wussy. Can't see Deathwing thinking they'd be able to do anything he wanted them for.

Edit - Teriz posted the one I mean.

I think the key to them being viewed as very powerful soldiers is their ability to use the powers of all the flights.

[ercarp]

After watching some of the dev interviews and taking time to properly mull over everything, I think overall DF looks very promising. The talent tree rework and profession overhaul are things that will carry forward beyond 10.0, and this is basically the first time they've done anything like that since Legion when they added Mythic+.

Speaking of which, retroactively applying Mythic+ to dungeons from past expansions also sounds fun (in a potentially chaotic way, but fun nonetheless) and I'm excited to see what they'll look like. Can you imagine something like Deadmines in M+? That would be awesome.

However, I will continue to voice my displeasure with the Dracthyr model until Blizzard acknowledges the community feedback and agrees to do something about them. But aside from that, as far as the gameplay and setting are concerned, DF sounds much better than either BfA or SL.

[Jodmos]

It does have a sort of "We scrapped together everything we managed to put together during covid and hope it's enough" vibe the more I think about it. All of it feels like it's just short of being great but they ran out of time and none of it is good as a result.

I wondered if they tried to get this out to reignite a bit of interest in WoW now that Shadowlands is pretty much on the way down player numbers wise.

[Teriz]

Both the raid bulky version and the black more muscular and harder edges version look good and I hope both get added alongside the current one.

They will. They're all going to be options for the race.

[Akta]

I disagree. Dragons don't wear armor, and I think most players are fine with their dragon wearing minimal to no armor as shown here;



The only real hangup is all of them being stuck in skinny mode, but I think that's going to be resolved pretty quickly, because its an easy fix, and Blizzard was crowing about customizations for this race/class.

I really don't think anything is going to sink this class. It allows you to essentially be a dragon (even to the point of being able to fly while in combat), and a lot of people are going to find that very appealing.

This is a red dreadlord

[Shadochi]

They will. They're all going to be options for the race.

Yeah, thats how I see it, we are at the point atm where they still can add it no issue or delay, I wouldn't be surprised if they already started work on concepts.

At the end of the day its just model edits, and if they cant have gear even easier. Rig stays the same

[JDBlou]

They will. They're all going to be options for the race.

Gosh I hope so. The mentality of limiting Evoker to Dracthyr and vice versa, means they should be pushing the envelope on customisations for them.

[Jodmos]

After watching some of the dev interviews and taking time to properly mull over everything, I think overall DF looks very promising. The talent tree rework and profession overhaul are things that will carry forward beyond 10.0, and this is basically the first time they've done anything like that since Legion when they added Mythic+.

Speaking of which, retroactively applying Mythic+ to dungeons from past expansions also sounds fun (in a potentially chaotic way, but fun nonetheless) and I'm excited to see what they'll look like. Can you imagine something like Deadmines in M+? That would be awesome.

However, I will continue to voice my displeasure with the Dracthyr model until Blizzard acknowledges the community feedback and agrees to do something about them. But aside from that, as far as the gameplay and setting are concerned, DF sounds much better than either BfA or SL.

I'm worried about how the dragon-riding will work. I hear it may be like GWs (which I don't know anything about) so if anyone knows how that works it would be nice to know. I really don't want some sort of constant input flying as that would cause me problems.

The UI is another issue. As long as the default stays as it is it will be fine but they do like to tinker with things.

Can't see the Talents panning out as they expect though. Almost certainly a 'best' path will be set and it will just end up being a more complicated talent tree without the freedom of choice they want players to have. At least for high level stuff. Won't be an issue for open world. on saying that they could maybe allow for things like a ranged survival hunter to come back

[Vakir]

They will. They're all going to be options for the race.

Based on what...?

Like, that would be lovely, but...this community does a great job of overexpecting and misunderstanding development pipelines all the damn time. Just look at the expectations for the last 3 expacs.

[Shadochi]

I'm worried about how the dragon-riding will work. I hear it may be like GWs (which I don't know anything about) so if anyone knows how that works it would be nice to know. I really don't want some sort of constant input flying as that would cause me problems.

The UI is another issue. As long as the deafult stays as its it will be fine but the do like to tinker with things.

Can't see the Talents panning out as they expect though. Almost certainly a 'best' path will be set and it will just end up being a more complicated talent tree without the freedom of choice they want players to have. At least for high level stuff. Won't be an issue for open world. on saying that they could maybe allow for things like a ranged survival hunter to come back

In every expansion there was a "best" path for talents, even in classic. For me the main part of this is the ability to have and freely switch between loadouts. There is really not a lot they could do for the best path. But this might add more utility to chose from

[Jodmos]

Gosh I hope so. The mentality of limiting Evoker to Dracthyr and vice versa, means they should be pushing the envelope on customisations for them.

I wish they'd open other class for dracthyr and say those just weren't equipped to be a full on evoker for whatever reason. Sorry Bob but your Midi-chlorians count is too low. You just can't evoke the dragon aspects. Here's a sword and shield. Go stand over there and hit things.

[Teriz]

Based on what...?

Like, that would be lovely, but...this community does a great job of overexpecting and misunderstanding development pipelines all the damn time. Just look at the expectations for the last 3 expacs.

Blizzard stated plainly that customization was a big part of this race/class. They're not going to limit the dragon form's appearance to one body type and give them different heads.

[Jodmos]

In every expansion there was a "best" path for talents, even in classic. For me the main part of this is the ability to have and freely switch between loadouts. There is really not a lot they could do for the best path. But this might add more utility to chose from

They did seem to suggest changing (I'm assuming outside of combat) would be pretty easy. no doubt with a cost though. So you could use one loadout for one boss and switch for the next.

[Blayze]

They missed the easiest of open goals by not giving us the ability to pick our illusion form's race.

[Jodmos]

They missed the easiest of open goals by not giving us the ability to pick our illusion form's race.

That seems to be about the only thing I've seen that everyone agrees on.

[Shadochi]

They did seem to suggest changing (I'm assuming outside of combat) would be pretty easy. no doubt with a cost though. So you could use one loadout for one boss and switch for the next.

You can presave a couple loadouts and then freely switch them from what I undestood (not sure for rested area)