Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Jodmos]

I think it really comes down to their starter zone. We don't know if they even know about any other mortal races. However if they run into Humans & Elves in their starter area (perhaps some sort of Alliance/Horde meetup chain like Pandaren have), it's theoretically possible that's all they'd know on their Visage Day.

Given it's the Explorer's League and Reliquary leading the way you would imagine Dwarves would also be met early on. Even saying that, seems hard to believe that once they set a visage they would be stuck with it. You'd wonder why not Gnoll, Tuskarr or centaur. All races on the Dragon isles. Unless of course it was set when Deathwing did is magic combining the mortal race and dragon DNA (which will probably be Blizzard's lore explanation now I think of it).

[Chickat]

It's actually worse than the druid problem because these dragon forms are humanoid and can probably fit armor on rather well.

Also druids have multiple forms. And while dragons can change their colors, horns, etc its not enough long term. Druids have multiple colors and models for each form.

[Shadochi]

Given it's the Explorer's League and Reliquary leading the way you would imagine Dwarves would also be met early on. Even saying that, seems hard to believe that once they set a visage they would be stuck with it. You'd wonder why not Gnoll, Tuskarr or centaur. All races on the Dragon isles.

But these are experiments, they might be just stuck to those 2 options

[Teriz]

A total lack of chicken or the egg on which was conceptualized first or if one was an easy shortcut for the other. It's irrelevant though, because...

Does it matter which one was developed first? How do we know the rig wasn't built with both in mind? Obviously the Dracthyr would be kept under wraps longer than the Incubus would be, since the former is part of a future expansion, while the Incubus was just a class minion. A very real scenario could have been that they built the rig for the Dracthyr and thought it was good for the Warlock class, and we simply saw the Incubus use the rig first.

Who cares? The point is that it was built on a new rig.

This is not a sufficient response to justify saying "they definitely will" in response to this stuff.

But they definitely are going to add more options to the Drakthyr model. We're not even in beta yet my dude, chill.

[Raetary]

Has Drachtyr been added to the hype train, yet?

Been on there since before the announcement.



That said, it's still the low res leaked images, i'll update it tomorrow with the new stuff after some good nights sleep.

[Chickat]

I agree somewhat. I think this one would be a better look;

Yeah that looks good.

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I am going to guess their backstory is dragon infused human/vrykul. They just happen to use the Belf and Human model because it's more "fair" than choosing either full Belf or full Human.

You know what would have been great?

Neutral Vrukul as well. Then the vissage form could be based on Vrykul.

[Teriz]

Are you oppsed to them allowing a limited selection of gear in dragon form? Like chest belt and legs?

If it looks good I got no problem with it. I don't see them wearing tons of armor, but I can see them wearing lioncloths, tabards, head adornments, cuffs, and other things.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

This really isn't a problem. The sad reality is that even if this racial option was open to all races, 99% of the community would just make elves and humans. Thus, it makes sense for Blizzard to just make Elf and human options. I'm not a huge fan of either race, but that's not going to stop me from being a dragon.

It's not going to stop me either.

So it isn't a point of complaint: rather, it's a point of feedback. Dragons have been able to choose any form, 'new race made by Deathwing' be damned. It's a letdown when we have the likes of Chromie and others.

I'd be sending feedback to the devs rather than posting here, but the only avenue open right now is through Twitter and I would be insanely annoying that way.

[Jodmos]

But these are experiments, they might be just stuck to those 2 options

Wow. you responded so quick. I edited to comment that they may be stuck with whatever happened when Deathwing did his thing so that sort of ties with what you said. Plus they're not real dragons so Blizzard probably have that as a a lore reason for why they're choice is limited. Would be nice to have options though. on saying that, not sure what I'd pick if all races were available. (Also Void Elvish might be possible depending on the customisation options they add or could RP as one anyway as they share BE options)

[Sondrelk]

Yeah that looks good.

The more I look at it, the more I appreciate how convincingly androgynous the actual model looks. It definitely loses out in menace and looking like something that could actually exist, but the latter also looks very masculine, even if that is closer to what dragons actually look like.

Not sure how I would actually make a compromise solution either, might just be one of those things that is effectively impossible.

[cocomen2]

Has Drachtyr been added to the hype train, yet?

eWOKEr without tank spec tanked our train, now it lays on sea floor.

[Chickat]

Surely the flight aspect of Evokers is going to be broken in PvP?

Im pretty sure its just a cooldown like Spiritwalkers grace.

[Xilurm]

Are we finally going to find out who is going to try to kill chromie? Or do we still need to wait for like level 112/113 for that?

I still haven't done that quest lmao.

[Sondrelk]

If it looks good I got no problem with it. I don't see them wearing tons of armor, but I can see them wearing lioncloths, tabards, head adornments, cuffs, and other things.

Players do love transmog though, and if this is a form that will be closer in practice to a Worgen form then it seems a bit unfair to make players exempt from all the cool transmog being added, even if it's what Druids have to live with all the time.

Where would you draw the line though? If full transmog was added, what slots do you think would be fitting to allow?

[Vakir]

How do we know the rig wasn't built with both in mind?

Burden of proof. You said that they were, but you now acknowledge that too is an assumption. The rest of what you typed is a waste of keystrokes and site bandwidth.

But they definitely are going to add more options to the Drakthyr model. We're not even in beta yet my dude, chill.

Nope. You said something blatantly false because it's not something actively correct at this time. New options can be added without them being body types. They can change how they look...and you would STILL be wrong because you said "oh, they're going to add all of them."

Admit it. Have some actual fucking standards for a change and stop moving goal posts and being a mealy-mouthed coward like with your stupid Steamscale that went absolutely nowhere.

[Chickat]

It's possible. They were definitely raving about all the customization options your Dracthyr would have.

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Blizzard has already shown that they can indeed fly during combat. It's more like a hover that goes way higher that you can control.

Im pretty sure its just a visually interesting cast while moving spell with a cooldown.

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So when do we think DF will be released? 2022 or 2023?

Feb-May 2023. Guessing March personally.

[Teriz]

Players do love transmog though, and if this is a form that will be closer in practice to a Worgen form then it seems a bit unfair to make players exempt from all the cool transmog being added, even if it's what Druids have to live with all the time.

While players love transmog, Druids are by far the most popular class, and like this class they spend their combat time in a form that doesn't show weapons or gear.

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Im pretty sure its just a visually interesting cast while moving spell with a cooldown.
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Actually no, they said literal flying. As in you go airborne, move around, and use your abilities on targets. They showed it on one of the deep dives.

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Admit it. Have some actual fucking standards for a change and stop moving goal posts and being a mealy-mouthed coward like with your stupid Steamscale that went absolutely nowhere.

I've said my piece about the Dracthyr form obviously getting some changes before release. No need to discuss that further. As for the Steamscale, clearly it was a hint for the dragon expansion. So yeah, it went somewhere. Did it go as far as I thought it would? Nah, but hey, that's what speculating in speculation threads is all about.

[ChronoSul]

Due to bronze dragons they would know about all races, even possibly those that don't exist

Would work if they were created by Noz and Not Deathwing

[Chickat]

Yeah, I'd love to be running around in Goblin form, then suddenly turn into a dragon to smite fools, but alas, it is not meant to be.

Again, I don't like their decision, but I understand why they did it.

And I love Wrathion anyway, so I'm looking forward to being an approximation of one of my favorite characters.

I want to be an elf anyways, so it doesn't effect me much, but more options are always better.

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Is Blizz adding in any content in Shadowlands to hold us over?

A new Season with all 3 shadowlands raids being relevant increased item level and affixes added to the raids to spice them up. Also they are adding 8 old dungeons as mythic+ dungeons for season 4.

[rhorle]

Actually no, they said literal flying. As in you go airborne, move around, and use your abilities on targets. They showed it on one of the deep dives.

You might be over selling it slightly. They say you can fly then show a clip of moving in a straight line. So it looks like the flying might be simply abilities you trigger and similar to things we already have examples of in the game for "airborne" attacks.