Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

“The race needs to be bulkier”
Blizz: there are bulkier options
“The gear will be weird”
Blizz: we got you fam

I’m huffing mega hopium

[KyleEverett]

Im pretty sure they said it starts at level 5 and you alternate between spec and class talents every level. You get 5 spec and 5 class talents from 60-70 to spend.

So 65 talents. 33 class talents and 32 spec talents. Thats my guess.

It's 31 class, 30 spec. Total is 61 or 1 per level starting at 10. You get 2-3 skills for free.

[Kohtra]

I'm happy Sorry, haters.

Same. I'm very happy with this. A lot of very grumpy people here.

[Ersula]

I’m huffing mega hopium

“The race needs to be bulkier”
Blizz: there are bulkier options
"Great, will this be an option for any of the other races, for example the ones that already have different body types in the game?"
Blizz: *Bass-boosted Cyberpunk 2077 theme*

Thats not true. Teran Gregory said last week it was only the third time he has been back on campas in 2 years. A lot of people are still working from home.

Well tell that to Ion because that's what he said last April

[Chickat]

Blizzplanet: How is the level 70 cap going to work with Chromie Time? Will Chromie Time be stretched to cover level 50-60 as well? Or will we be forced to go to Shadowlands for level 50-60?


Jackie: Oh, so we’re keeping it. For the new player experience, new players specifically will be sent from Exile’s Reach to BFA, then onto Dragon Isles. More veteran players, people who have already leveled a character to max can choose like Chromie Time to go level in Draenor or Pandaria or Shadowlands. But for new players, it’s going to go: Exile’s Reach, BFA, Dragon Isles.


Also they are talking about letting you keep soulshapes in some capacity.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Blizzplanet: How is the level 70 cap going to work with Chromie Time? Will Chromie Time be stretched to cover level 50-60 as well? Or will we be forced to go to Shadowlands for level 50-60?


Jackie: Oh, so we’re keeping it. For the new player experience, new players specifically will be sent from Exile’s Reach to BFA, then onto Dragon Isles. More veteran players, people who have already leveled a character to max can choose like Chromie Time to go level in Draenor or Pandaria or Shadowlands. But for new players, it’s going to go: Exile’s Reach, BFA, Dragon Isles.

Why BFA still? just why?

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

Blizzplanet: How is the level 70 cap going to work with Chromie Time? Will Chromie Time be stretched to cover level 50-60 as well? Or will we be forced to go to Shadowlands for level 50-60?


Jackie: Oh, so we’re keeping it. For the new player experience, new players specifically will be sent from Exile’s Reach to BFA, then onto Dragon Isles. More veteran players, people who have already leveled a character to max can choose like Chromie Time to go level in Draenor or Pandaria or Shadowlands. But for new players, it’s going to go: Exile’s Reach, BFA, Dragon Isles.


Also they are talking about letting you keep soulshapes in some capacity.

Oh my god... they're skipping Shadowlands. From BFA to the Isles directly.

That's telling.

[Chickat]

To be fair he said the dream is still alive and they want to do it, just not for Dragonflight. They may be even working on it already with a side team. Anyways, it's great to know that they are aware of the demand!

It makes more sense to come in a world revamp expansion anyways IMO.

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Now I have a stupid question. With the dragon flying, if you're a dragon person, do you shift back to your human form or are you a dragon on a dragon( and if you have a dragon pet,) with a dragon?

Id imagine you shift back.

[Khaza-R]

Oh my god... they're skipping Shadowlands. From BFA to the Isles directly.

That's telling.

That is pretty interesting they just straight up removed it from the new player experience.

[Chickat]

Why would they wait 9.2.5 to open up pre-orders when deluxe editions rewards are already IG ?

Because an old leak that got everything right said there was an allied race coming with preorder.

[Ersula]

Jackie: Oh, so we’re keeping it. For the new player experience, new players specifically will be sent from Exile’s Reach to BFA, then onto Dragon Isles. More veteran players, people who have already leveled a character to max can choose like Chromie Time to go level in Draenor or Pandaria or Shadowlands. But for new players, it’s going to go: Exile’s Reach, BFA, Dragon Isles.

So....they're decreasing the experience required to get to 60? Plus if they're adjusting Shadowlands to last from 10 to 60, that would also make Shadowlands the fastest place to level by a huge margin. That questline takes less than 4 hours. Besides going right from Exiles reach to Shadowlands busts the entire premise of the early Bastion quests.

[Chickat]

Your completely uncritical optimism is not an argument. Especially not towards the game's inability to innovate.

Your completely overcritical pessimism is not an argument.

[maplesyrupgl]

Why BFA still? just why?

Shadowlands is so disconnected from everything else in the sense of story and world. Having it be the first levelling experience for new players would just feel wrong.

[Cheezits]

BFA ends with the dragons, not at all surprised to hear about the SL skip. On top of that it will probably address the sword at the end if the Azerite tease in the cinematic is any indication.

SL is not a continuation of BFA: it’s the end of the War Campaign, and if you don’t care about Sylvanas it can be skipped entirely. The only things that matter are Anduin stepping down, Sylvanas being banished and Tyrande getting a new seed... and all of that can get explained in a few NPC conversations.

I think endgame is going to be Exiles Reach - Revamped EK/Kalimdor, but for now, Exiles Reach - BFA - DF flows the best,

[Chickat]

I'm quite sure we didn't got pre-orders yesterday because they don't want to commit to a release date again, just remember what happened with Shadowlands.

Could be that too.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Oh my god... they're skipping Shadowlands. From BFA to the Isles directly.

That's telling.

Less of a hassle to a new player I'm assuming.

[Chickat]

If you're going to reply to all my posts from 12 hours ago can you consolidate them all into one post, please.

They then also said only 4 were going to have a mythic difficulty: This tells me they're doing what FFXIV does & it uses the same dungeon for multiple instances. Really its not 8 dunegons; its just 2 slight variations of 4 dungeons. This sounds like how they intend to release it this year: A considerably smaller expansion, even smaller than Shadowlands.

"90% of people are happy with this" lol maybe 90% of the people still playing this game, which at this point is about 30% of the people who were playing at the start of Shadowlands

There are 8 dungeons, but only 4 will be M+ every estimated 3 months. Its not like the other 4 don't exist. Just not on M+ difficulty. I think its a weird decision too, but its not like the work for the other 4 isn't going to be done for launch. Its not laziness. I could see an argument for incompetence, but not laziness.

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It's 31 class, 30 spec. Total is 61 or 1 per level starting at 10. You get 2-3 skills for free.

Ah kk that makes sense then.

[huth]

Alexstrasza has a staff in the key art. Could be a sign that the Evokers use staves.

Well, staves seem like an obvious pick, since pretty much all casters use them (HPal is the only one that can't). Daggers too, probably. Hoping for Fist Weapons, that'd give us 4 casters with them (Druid, Shaman, Monk), and would fit their design well. Maybe 1h maces, since that seems to be the standard healer 1h.

[Chickat]

Why BFA still? just why?

BFA leveling is a lot better for new players and they know it. Shadowlands would make no sense. It makes much more sense to do the island, then do bfa adventures and then dragon isles. The bfa zones don't really leave any major plotholes either except for the war mode stuff, but the acutral zone stories themselves are perfectly fine for leveling. I think its a good decision.

[Shadochi]

BFA ends with the dragons, not at all surprised to hear about the SL skip. On top of that it will probably address the sword at the end if the Azerite tease in the cinematic is any indication.

SL is not a continuation of BFA: it’s the end of the War Campaign, and if you don’t care about Sylvanas it can be skipped entirely. The only things that matter are Anduin stepping down, Sylvanas being banished and Tyrande getting a new seed... and all of that can get explained in a few NPC conversations.

I think endgame is going to be Exiles Reach - Revamped EK/Kalimdor, but for now, Exiles Reach - BFA - DF flows the best,

But none of the major story plots happen during leveling. So the players wont know about those resolutions. I still agree however to keep it this way. Especially since BfA now has no borrowed power during leveling (like a different spell for each zone in SL)