Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Raetary]

Don't know if this was brought up but:
https://gamerant.com/world-of-warcra...tory-factions/

World of Warcraft: Dragonflight will be a deeper dive into draconic lore than any previous content in WoW. Feasel teased several mysteries that may be uncovered during the story, including the origin of the Emerald Dream and the nature of the timeways of the bronze dragonflight. He also hinted that, in addition to learning about the origin of the new playable drakthyr race, players could expect to learn more about other draconic creatures, like dragonspawn and drakonids.

The draconic politics will extend beyond just the five dragonflights and the Primalists, however. Feasel made mention of the other types of dragons players have encountered over the years, such as the twilight dragonflight, the stone drakes of Deepholm, and the storm drakes of the Broken Isles, and that some of these groups may hold resentment over not being included in the main dragonflights. Players should expect these flights–and perhaps others, like the netherwing dragonflight from Burning Crusade — to be involved in the drama of the Dragon Isles as well.

More lore for other Dragonkin.
Lots of dragon politics including older broods like the Netherwing.

Origins of the ED, explains why Tyrande's supposedly involved again.
Maybe (hopefully) they'll finally let Freya do something this time.

[Varx]

You keep comparing apples to oranges.

A Dracthyr is a draconic super-soldier engineered by Neltharion that inherently hold the powers of each dragonflight in them.
'Evoker' is just the description of their inherent power.

A human can't just pick up a spellbook and become a warlock or mage, that requires an interest in an extensive magical scholarship, some intellect and years of studying.
Not everyone can nor wants to become a mage or warlock.

Dracthyr being other classes would require them to not use their inherent dragon powers.
Which makes no damn sense.

Blizz already said they're open to more dracthyr classes. A drac could just forgo their evoker abilities and still have their latent racial attributes present so they can pursue another class.

Think of it like an LFD warrior.

Really not a fan of evokers essentially being super OP racial abilities for drac.

[Syegfryed]

Don't know if this was brought up but:
https://gamerant.com/world-of-warcra...tory-factions/



More lore for other Dragonkin.
Lots of dragon politics including older broods like the Netherwing.

Origins of the ED, explains why Tyrande's supposedly involved again.
Maybe (hopefully) they'll finally let Freya do something this time.

I believe it all be as bad as the last 2 expansions, and, with lots of retcons(just like the dracthyr race itself is one) so im not holding my breath about it.

I don't know what the fuck the netherwing will be doing there since they are set in outland, guess we will find out they were here all along

[Teriz]

I am in total agreement with you. Maybe in the future....maybe....Blizzard will let other classes be dragons...but to me it makes no sense. I mean...I have mained a tauren hunter since Vanilla. How derpy would it look for her to come flying in, land, turn into some massive (because they are a lot bigger than humanoid classes) dragon and then pull out a bow/gun and start pew pewing? Is that what people want? Or to start shooting fire and magic? I don't get it. Leave it be. And I admire your patience in trying to get through peoples heads, but it doesn't seem to be working

We do what we can.

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If the drachtyr are failed experiments of Neltharion we can safely say some are such weak that they can't be evoker and have to be other classes

If they're weak, they're not going to be adventurers.

Keep in mind, an Evoker isn't a class that they choose to be, Evoker is what they are. It is as much as a race as it is a class.

[Syegfryed]

If they're weak, they're not going to be adventurers.

Says who? they can be weak with magic and strong in physical strength,put your dragon build to good use.

Keep in mind, an Evoker isn't a class that they choose to be, Evoker is what they are. It is as much as a race as it is a class.

We already understand that they are selling demon hunter 2.0 as a race, you don't need to keep reminding us of how bad it is.

[micwini]

Honestly, i hope they just replace regular flying entirely with it. Old flying hurts the game.

True that would be amazing. But they'd have to make those animations for all existing mounts. I don't see them doing it unfortunately.

[Jekyll]

I don't get why everybody is saying we don't have a borrowed power system. We do have and it's called Dragonriding.

They remove one basic feature and turn it into a new feature that's less of the original one - but hey wait, to get better in that, you need to farm and grind stuff.

Peak lazy design.

I don't hate Dragonriding. I think it's a neat idea. But it's the same they did with other features in the past, stripping them away from the players just to hand them back in another fashion as some kind of new feature.

this guy gets it.

[Revamp Man]

Yeah, it might be copium, but I'm hoping they increase wows budget. We wont see the effects of it until 11.0 or maybe not until 12.0, but we can hope.

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I meant Thornygos btw. Idk how I missed the n.

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Yeah it looks like a monk and ninja mixed. Might look derpy on a fat panda though.

I’m glad that I have the stone hidden artifact appearance because it fits

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Yeah, that Monk set is bad ass, NGL.

Anyway, it looks like we're going to be waiting for some more info. I really want to see the new abilities and talents for the new class and the existing classes.

Ion is wanting to get that out before testing so they know what we want

[Aeluron Lightsong]

this guy gets it.

No he really does not.

[Vakir]

Unfortunately I don't think the dragon form can even ride mounts.

They need to allow Dracthyr to transform into nearly any unlocked dragon mount for flying, or at LEAST the four customizable drakes for Dragon Riding. Having to sit on them in visage form would be so incredibly awkward. And staying as just that one form would be equally lame and the equivalent of only having one druid flight form option.

[Makabreska]

this guy gets it.

He gets it by calling a revamped flying system a "borrowed power?"

[Teriz]

Says who? they can be weak with magic and strong in physical strength, but your dragon build to good use.

Essentially what you're saying is that if they suck at being a Dracthyr they can be something other than an Evoker. That's not a great motivating factor to get people to roll a different class.

We already understand that they are selling demon hunter 2.0 as a race, you don't need to keep reminding us of how bad it is.

It's only bad in your opinion. There's plenty of other players who are quite excited to be getting a playable version of the dragon aspects.

[Sondrelk]

True that would be amazing. But they'd have to make those animations for all existing mounts. I don't see them doing it unfortunately.

Not really. All they need is to figure out what animations are fitting of a group of mounts and then apply it to them across the board.

All gryphon rig mounts get a barrel roll for instance. And all mechanical mounts get a boost straight forward.

So long as every mount doesn't play entirely differently it should work just fine. So far the only thing we have really heard and seen is that they will have different tricks they can do, not that one is exceptional at hovering compared to another so who is great at diving for instance.

[Jekyll]

Honestly, i hope they just replace regular flying entirely with it. Old flying hurts the game.

Normal flying doesn't hurt the game. You are just too weak and too hypocritical not to use it. You have neither the resolve nor the principal to use ground mounts and you need external force not to use it. Weak.

[rhorle]

I believe it all be as bad as the last 2 expansions, and, with lots of retcons(just like the dracthyr race itself is one) so im not holding my breath about it.

Dracthyr are not a retcon. Nothing about previous lore indicated there was no other dragonkin types out there.

[therumblings]

He gets it by calling a revamped flying system a "borrowed power?"

The amount of trolling here is going to increase since everyone is bored with nothing new on the PTR or beta going up lol

[Alexjimithing]

https://www.buffed.de/World-of-Warcr...hen-1393543/3/

I know this is Soon (TM) and he could be lying but this is promising in terms of the alpha starting sooner rather than later.

[Makabreska]

Normal flying doesn't hurt the game. You are just too weak and too hypocritical not to use it. You have neither the resolve nor the principal to use ground mounts and you need external force not to use it. Weak.

The hell did we just read? Not using ground mounts means you are weak and lack resolve? Hoooo weeeee boy, you really went deep now!

[Paula Deen]

I was impressed with Shadowlands and BFA on announcement the same way I am with this. So I am cautious (And still unsubbed, have been since early last year.), but I really do hope the changes they have announced here really do improve the game.

I had been playing a lot of ESO recently and it astounds me all the various activities I can get involved with in that game and its completely free. WoW really has a lot of catching up to do I feel.

The two primary complaints I have so far are as follows;

Dragonriding - Obviously this still remains to be seen but I am really concerned this is going to be timegated to hell and back and its power will be tied to content outside of the world. I do NOT know that, and will refrain from judgement until I see it in action, but I am looking forward to the gliding and active movement. I recently got through Immortal's Fenyx Rising and have liked the system in Guild Wars 2 so I hope to see it similar to that kind of thing, especially because they kept using the 'Exploration' buzzword in press kit stuff.

Dracthyr - Don't get me wrong, I think they look sick but I gotta agree they look a bit...furry/scalie (?) maybe too feminine, even on the males. They really could use more muscle or stronger jaws.

As always the art team seems to be trying to hit it home, but I was really disappointed in how little music I heard. Shadowlands, outside of launch, has also been severely lacking in that department and it makes me sad. Love WoW's music.

[Syegfryed]

Essentially what you're saying is that if they suck at being a Dracthyr they can be something other than an Evoker. That's not a great motivating factor to get people to roll a different class.

Seems good to me.

See, thats the problem in selling a class as their own race, you get this kind of garbage

It's only bad in your opinion. There's plenty of other players who are quite excited to be getting a playable version of the dragon aspects.

Lets not pretend that is it, and i prefer more than plenty of people being excited.