Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

Taken purely from a lore perspective, why would a Dracthyr forgo the power of the 5 dragonflights and draconic power in general to be a Paladin or a Shaman? If you were a Dracthyr, would you clip your wings so that you can be a better Rogue or Hunter? It makes zero sense.

That and the size thing. Look at the demo reel of their abilities: The Dracthyr's combat form is so big imagine having to run a dungeon with a melee dps who completely engulfs the trash mobs.

[rhorle]

briefly stacking in melee is dramatically different than playing a melee class who towers over most of its enemies. This is a third person game, remember.

That has nothing to do with anything you've stated. Where is your proof that they are taller then 14'6". Even brief stacking in melee for encounters will still have you towering over most enemies and other players. Of course it is a third person game. Lmao. You really do bring in random crap so you don't have to admit you are wrong about something don't you?

[Cheezits]

Letting people attack with the visage form would be nonsense and would defeat the purpose of making such ridiculous class/race combo in the first place, is like wanting to attack as a feral druid in your normal form.

No, it's like using Moonkin spells outside of Moonkin form, which is exactly what they added. Why would you need to be in a certain appearance to use 90% of the spells that aren't actually breathing fire or flapping wings?

[plz delete account]

No, I won. I'll shill tinker though.

buy the anduin shirt you coward, you never won the argument with me.

[Teriz]

That and the size thing. Look at the demo reel of their abilities: The Dracthyr's combat form is so big imagine having to run a dungeon with a melee dps who completely engulfs the trash mobs.

Oh? They’re taller than other races? That’s good to know (and really great news).

[Ersula]

Broke: Dracthyr will never be other classes and other classes will never be Evoker.

Woke: They can give us absolute freaks for new classes. Dark Rangers aren't too similar to hunters anymore. Blood mages that are 99% mage, 1& blood. Want to play as a swarm of bees? Anything is possible now.

[Varx]

That and the size thing. Look at the demo reel of their abilities: The Dracthyr's combat form is so big imagine having to run a dungeon with a melee dps who completely engulfs the trash mobs.

Eh that's a technical issue. Plus sometimes even ranged need to go melee too so there's that.

[Super Dickmann]

buy the anduin shirt you coward, you never won the argument with me.

There's nothing to win, you were entirely wrong and I was entirely right as I was through all of BFA without fail. I'll buy nothing and shill tinkers.

[Cheezits]

There's nothing to win, you were entirely wrong and I was entirely right as I was through all of BFA without fail. I'll buy nothing and shill tinkers.

Are you going to change your signature now?

[Teriz]

Idk, why did illidan forgo the arcane to become a DH? I mean we know the answer to that, but the point is to each their own.

To seek more power. Necromancers and Warlocks are typically arcane mages who do the same thing.

Not close to being comparable to going from a Dragon down to a common Rogue.

[Syegfryed]

No, it's like using Moonkin spells outside of Moonkin form, which is exactly what they added. Why would you need to be in a certain appearance to use 90% of the spells that aren't actually breathing fire or flapping wings?

As far we know the visage form is not a real form, like dragon its not supposed to be suit for combat, rather just to blend with mortals. Same argument can be made for a bear form, they just slap people with their bear arm, why not make a glyph to do in your humanoid form?

Which again, this comes to the problem of blizzard trying to tie the class and the race together, when everyone could be happy if they did like mop.

[Hugnomo]

Broke: Dracthyr will never be other classes and other classes will never be Evoker.

Woke: They are going to give the visage forms combat animations for Evoker so that two racial models already have the animations ready for Evoker in the future... and go figure, it's two of the ones that most use Arcane, AKA Evoker powers! (Humans/Belves)

I don't understand the idea of making the humanoid forms playable in combat.
There's spells where they're flying through the air. They're flying around the battlefield. one of them seems like a push with their wings. How would that work?
People should look at it the same as druid forms, but even better because they have even more customization.

[draugril]

Letting people attack with the visage form would be nonsense and would defeat the purpose of making such ridiculous class/race combo in the first place, is like wanting to attack as a feral druid in your normal form.

On that note, Worgen should be able to choose their base form for Bear and Cat forms.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Awakenings!

I was actually thinking about doing a "hypothetical 11.0 revamp expansion" and calling it Awakenings at this point. Unironically.

Base it around a double meaning of "the world is reawakening" and "the world soul is awakening."

[Cheezits]

As far we know the visage form is not a real form, like dragon its not supposed to be suit for combat, rather just to blend with mortals. Same argument can be made for a bear form, they just slap people with their bear arm, why not make a glyph to do in your humanoid form?

The bear argument is a physical attack. If 60% of Evoker is spellcasting without the physical aspects of a dragon, then evokers should be able to do that outside of dragon form: they could just turn into dragon form for those wing/breath/flying attacks and then morph back, which is how other non-Dracthyr classes could do it if they are taught.

Hell, Blizz could make it a draconic outline or something for other races to keep Dracthyr special.

[Super Dickmann]

Are you going to change your signature now?

Way ahead of you.

[Varx]

To seek more power. Necromancers and Warlocks are typically arcane mages who do the same thing.

Not close to being comparable to going from a Dragon down to a common Rogue.

It might seem silly but it's possible.

Again with the LFD example. You got a race that has been made immortal through the light, yet they'd rather be a simple archer or warrior ove a paladin or a priest?

Idk maybe some dracthyr are runts and don't have acute evoker abilities and thus decide to pursue the path of a hunter?

Like a squib in Harry Potter.

Or maybe you have dracthyr who are just humble by nature and want to be a more simple being so they decide to be a warrior.

The options will be possible since they are now members of the world.

[Teriz]

I don't understand the idea of making the humanoid forms playable.
There's spells where they're flying through the air. They're flying around the battlefield. one of them seems like a push with their wings. How would that work?
People should look at it the same as druid forms, but even better because they have even more customization.

Exactly. If the Dracthyr are also taller than other races, that’ll cause problems with armor and weapons as well.

[Cheezits]

There's spells where they're flying through the air. They're flying around the battlefield. one of them seems like a push with their wings. How would that work?

It would work just like the DH spells that temporarily turn you into Demon Form.

I really don't think its a big deal. Let people cast as dragonform or visage form, both will still be dragons when they fight at different times. Adds flavor to the race that some dracthyr like being a dragon and some like being a half-dragon.

[Vakir]

Way ahead of you.

"This deal's getting worse all the time."

The irony is that they have the best odds now because there's no way they can avoid a revamp and possibly housing AGAIN and that would lend to an industrial revolution class.