Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

Wow, Ion wasn't kidding. November possible?

Highly doubtful because we’d still be a month from testing and normal testing is 7 months

The q1 2023 post is definitely looking possible but I’m wondering if that’s calendar q1 or not

[Dracullus]

Oh shit, Alpha in May? Then maybe 10.0 is not so far into 2023. And with talents as only progression system they will have a lot less work this time around (member 50 iterations of conduits?).

Technically that would make late November '22 possible, since 9.0 started in April and was scheduled to mid-October. Still there is season 4 'issue', both season 3&4 would have to last 4 months each when they stated that aim is for 6-8 month seasons.

For reference (corrections welcome):

Shadowlands was announced on November 1 2019, hit wowdev on February 19 2020 and public beta on April 8 2020.

Battle for Azeroth was announced on November 3 2017, hit wowdev on December 16th 2017 and public beta on the January 26th 2018.

If I remember correctly, SL Alpha was delayed, people teased some event in March which was cancelled because we-all-know-what. So 1-1.5 month sounds likely. Gives me hope that 9.2.5 will be sooner as well.

[Teriz]

I meant to say playable in combat, my brain missed some synapses.
Totally in favor of visage forms outside of combat.

The more I see them, the more I like the Dracthyr and visage forms. Love that the class has all 5 aspect fantasies. Such a rich theme. Plus them having the basic dragonriding (like dh gliding +) is so cool. Can't wait to see play their introduction.
I've seen some edits that are cool, and hope they could add that variety without taking away what they've shown us, until then. But regardless, I'm completely sold on them. I love how unique they are as a race/class combo too.

That's what I've been trying to convey through most of this conversation; Once players actually play this race the way they're meant to be played, no one is going to want to play as them in a different class, because it would make zero sense.

Additionally, if @Ersula is right and they're super tall, they might not get much of a bulk increase.

Highly doubtful because we’d still be a month from testing and normal testing is 7 months

The q1 2023 post is definitely looking possible but I’m wondering if that’s calendar q1 or not

I wouldn't be surprised if 10.0 was in November, with expansion release in Q1.

[Ersula]

So they become datamineable somewhere between wowdev and beta, or is alpha not at all datamined?

The CND is just the server that distributes updates. It can't be accessed by outside parties. This is before it becomes dataminable. They can datamine a patch as soon as it distributes the patch to users.

[Revamp Man]

The more I think about the talent system the more excited I get

Thinking about building my spec between ST and aoe instead of the weird amalgamation we currently have is just awesome to think about

Like my WW might be able to do the FoF/clone/ bone dust/ chi explosion build while there’s also the build from 7.3 with strike of the wind lord/ Rising sun kick/ black out.

MW is obviously going to have a fist weaving build

Brewmaster might get a choice between ultra stagger or ultra guard lol

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Oh shit, Alpha in May? Then maybe 10.0 is not so far into 2023. And with talents as only progression system they will have a lot less work this time around (member 50 iterations of conduits?).

Technically that would make late November '22 possible, since 9.0 started in April and was scheduled to mid-October. Still there is season 4 'issue', both season 3&4 would have to last 4 months each when they stated that aim is for 6-8 month seasons.

I think season 4 is not necessarily meant to be super long. Just enough do SOMETHING until DF release.

[Marlamin]

The CND is just the server that distributes updates. It can't be accessed by outside parties. This is before it becomes dataminable. They can datamine a patch as soon as it distributes the patch to users.

In most cases we can datamine it slightly before that, actually.

[Santandame]

Interview just confirmed that Murozond will happen in the future. My money is on him being the final boss for sure.

That's what gonna lead to Yrel coming to our time line and setting up 11.0 light vs void.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warcraf...nos-the-326792

I've been calling Murozond a lot the past few days. Gonna disagree on Yrel though.

I see one of the following happening:

- Murozond opens up a portal to an undisclosed timeline. A villain from WoW's past who we haven't encountered, a villain from far off in the future, or an alternate character of well known hero(who is a villain in their timeline) hops through and later brings their army/forces through with them.

- The portal goes to pre-sundering Kalimdor (a nod to the start of the reveal cinematic which starts with the sundering), one of the following characters jumps through to fuck with shit:

Azshara - seeking the true throne of power as referenced in her last appearance. This throne of power being her original empire. We get an Ancient Kalimdor/War of the Ancients expansion with Azshara using what knowledge she has from our timeline, to usurp power from both the Old Gods and Sargeras. Azshara is rightfully and finally the focus of an expansion.

Xal'atath - Goes back to get revenge on the Old Gods who devoured her as well as usurp their armies. We get Black Empire styled expansion set on Ancient Kalimdor.

Wrathion - Becomes increasing despondent during Dragonflight, fears there is no saving the Black Dragonflight. Instead heads back to the War of the Ancients to try and stop the Old Gods from corrupting Deathwing. Believes this is the only way to bring salvation to the Black Dragonflight and prevent their near extinction and descent into madness.

- The portal Murozond opens up can't be closed. Lots of different timelines start to bleed into our timeline, including enemies, allies, locations etc. We get a weird timey-wimey expansion. A combination of ''What If?'' style scenarios and events, and different timelines. We could have a combination of the Troll/Aqir war, an evil Alliance timeline, Black Empire, the Horde never being formed etc.

Either way, Murozond is 100% setting up 11.0.

[Valysar]

That was what I was saying, alpha in May.

[Hitei]

That's what I've been trying to convey through most of this conversation; Once players actually play this race the way they're meant to be played, no one is going to want to play as them in a different class, because it would make zero sense.

What a completely baseless assumption.

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I've been calling Murozond a lot the past few days. Gonna disagree on Yrel though.

I see one of the following happening:

- Murozond opens up a portal to an undisclosed timeline. A villain from WoW's past who we haven't encountered, a villain from far off in the future, or an alternate character of well known hero(who is a villain in their timeline) hops through and later brings their army/forces through with them.

....so Yrel?

[Revamp Man]

That's what I've been trying to convey through most of this conversation; Once players actually play this race the way they're meant to be played, no one is going to want to play as them in a different class, because it would make zero sense.

Additionally, if @Ersula is right and they're super tall, they might not get much of a bulk increase.



I wouldn't be surprised if 10.0 was in November, with expansion release in Q1.

They said that prepatch is designed for two weeks of content
SL prepatch was just long because of delays

If they launch in November it would have to be early because of the raid opening while the expansion could launch mid December and have the season beginning delayed

If they meant calendar q1 in the leak then I see January with prepatch in December for holidays

[Ersula]

Additionally, if @Ersula is right and they're super tall, they might not get much of a bulk increase.

Why does everyone say that like I'm theorizing: You can see the size comparison here. They're a good 25% larger than the larger playable races.

[Revamp Man]

Interview just confirmed that Murozond will happen in the future. My money is on him being the final boss for sure.

That's what gonna lead to Yrel coming to our time line and setting up 11.0 light vs void.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warcraf...nos-the-326792

So the leak redshirt guy posted was real

Q1 release

[Teriz]

Why does everyone say that like I'm theorizing: You can see the size comparison here. They're a good 25% larger than the larger playable races.

Ah, good point. Damn, they're pretty huge.

Yeah, you can't make that into other classes. It would cause all sorts of issues with armor and weapons.

[Ersula]

In most cases we can datamine it slightly before that, actually.

You can datamine before the player servers go up, obviously. But you have to be able to download it first.

[Dracullus]

I think season 4 is not necessarily meant to be super long. Just enough do SOMETHING until DF release.

Still I think they wouldn't bother if expac is 2022, Sepulcher from March to November would be one of shortest last tier anyway.

[Marlamin]

You can datamine before the player servers go up, obviously. But you have to be able to download it first.

We don't need the patch to be out to Battle.net launchers to download it, every now and then it just being on (the non-encrypted) CDN ready for deployment is enough. I'm kind of hoping they fix that issue so things are a bit more fair game in the future, though, which is why I'm happily publicly talking about it.

[Santandame]

What a completely baseless assumption.

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....so Yrel?

Well, you got me. Just not Yrel. I don't really see a Light themed expansion happening yet. I keep thinking it'll be Ancient Kalimdor.

[Khaza-R]

The encrypted wowdev CDN endpoint is now on 10.0!

9.2.5.43180 → 10.0.0.43342!

IT COMETH

Time to re-fire the hype train engines already.

[ChairmanKaga]

Has there been much speculation about the two halves of the sphere Stoney Tony pushes together in the cinematic to 'relight the beacon' for the Aspects return to the isle?