1. #53281
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    I doubt it. Blizzard is clearly setting up a elemental related lore so I doubt they would just pivot to Azshara out of the blue. Remember elementals were the original power on Azeroth and I don't think it is a coincidence that the main threat we know of is Dragons that have embraced that power. We might have a brief visit to something Azshara related like we did in Cataclysm but it doesn't really seem to fit what we currently know. Yrel is just completely unconnected.
    We're getting more Life and Elemental lore, but I can't see all three raids being about dragons or about elementals. The first raid is elemental themed so that means it's unlikely going to be patch content, and we're probably not going to get a dragon as the final boss of each raid.

    We could go to the Lifelands for a patch but I don't think we are going to get too much back to back theming. All the raids will be very different like SL and BFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    There's nothing to win, you were entirely wrong and I was entirely right as I was through all of BFA without fail. I'll buy nothing and shill tinkers.
    Ermmmm no, your argument for why sylvanas hadn't betrayed people was that those people had left her cause after she had... betrayed them. Circular logic, and I'm going to stand my ground. Buy the anduin shirt.

  3. #53283
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Blizzard won't add a race that is 5 feet taller then Tauren.
    They would. Because they did. The problems you listed won't affect Dracthry because they can't be in their taller form out of combat. It's not a toggle like Worgen.

  4. #53284
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I actually think one of the possible zones we might see mid expansion is more of the elemental planes. If the giant magma dudes are the first threat, the Primal dragons probably follow and they are deeply linked to the elements. Could be an opportunity to see more of those places.
    I feel like patch/raid tier wise it's going to be:

    10.0 - the Primal Dragons

    10.1 - Elemental Plane zone and raid.

    10.2 - Chromatus raid and Dracthyr levelling zone as max level content.

    10.3 - Murozond timeways raid with bosses from Warcraft past and future, and alternate timelines - Y'shaarj, Galakrond, an evil Khadgar etc.

    Actually, with the news we may learn about the origin of the Dream. I feel like the Emerald Dream could be a zone with an attached raid. Have Chromatus for 10.1, and have the Emerald Dream as our usual funky .2 zone and raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    They would. Because they did. The problems you listed won't affect Dracthry because they can't be in their taller form out of combat. It's not a toggle like Worgen.
    I'm not sure that's accurate. How are they going to be able to fly for example if they can't shift into Dracthyr form? Flying isn't combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    We're getting more Life and Elemental lore, but I can't see all three raids being about dragons or about elementals. The first raid is elemental themed so that means it's unlikely going to be patch content, and we're probably not going to get a dragon as the final boss of each raid.
    Why can't a Dragon themed expansion be about Dragon-related threats? You keep trying to throw everything else into the expansion for no reason. Even the Lifelands has no real tie to the expansion but you are insisting it is possible. The Shadowlands raids were not all different because they were all related to the Jailer and Shadowlands.
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  7. #53287
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I'm not sure that's accurate. How are they going to be able to fly for example if they can't shift into Dracthyr form? Flying isn't combat.
    They also have a dance animation for their dragon form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    They would. Because they did. The problems you listed won't affect Dracthry because they can't be in their taller form out of combat. It's not a toggle like Worgen.
    Again I am going to ask you for a source. Blizzard has never said that it is only a combat form. They have only said that the Drac'thyr form is required for combat. Without a source explicitly stating what you claim this is yet another case of you trying to push your own idea as fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I'm not sure that's accurate. How are they going to be able to fly for example if they can't shift into Dracthyr form? Flying isn't combat.
    Okay flying is the exception. That still solves the indoor-height-problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Again I am going to ask you for a source. Blizzard has never said that it is only a combat form. They have only said that the Drac'thyr form is required for combat. Without a source explicitly stating what you claim this is yet another case of you trying to push your own idea as fact.
    Just think for one second about how disgusting that would make Goldshire Inn.

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    Drac'thur will eventually be able to play other classes, and other races will eventually be able to be evokers

  11. #53291
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    Drac'thur will eventually be able to play other classes, and other races will eventually be able to be evokers
    As long as the visage can be any race, evoker can stay unique to dracthyr

  12. #53292
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Why can't a Dragon themed expansion be about Dragon-related threats? You keep trying to throw everything else into the expansion for no reason. Even the Lifelands has no real tie to the expansion but you are insisting it is possible. The Shadowlands raids were not all different because they were all related to the Jailer and Shadowlands.
    I've just made a post about how I see the patches going, but I just remembered the news that we'll learn more about the Emerald Dream, so I see the patch content being the following:

    10.0 - Primal Dragons
    10.1 - Chromatus raid with the Dracthyr zone for max level
    10.2 - .2 patches tend to be a bit different and more funky, think Throne of Thunder, Nazjatar etc. I feel like we'll get Emerald Dream here with an attached raid.
    10.3 Murozond and a timeways raid, but I'm not sure what the zone could be. Maybe an updated Tanaris or expanded Caverns of Time?

  13. #53293
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    Drac'thur will eventually be able to play other classes, and other races will eventually be able to be evokers
    That literally says it's exceedingly unlikely for evokers to be other races. Other classes for dracthyr sound cool though and I like the little tidbit they learn from other races down the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Just think for one second about how disgusting that would make Goldshire Inn.
    So no source and instead you move the goal posts to something else to prove you are right. Lol. Blizzard has stated in an interview that Drac'thyr can glide like Demon Hunters but can't fly in their form unless they are in Dragon Isles. So you are wrong and no amount of goal post moving will change that you are wrong.
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  15. #53295
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    Ermmmm no, your argument for why sylvanas hadn't betrayed people was that those people had left her cause after she had... betrayed them. Circular logic, and I'm going to stand my ground. Buy the anduin shirt.
    Sylvanas had no objection to them following her, hence the ample dark rangers who went with her. They decided to fall on their swords for Calia without Sylvanas's intervention.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

  16. #53296
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I actually think one of the possible zones we might see mid expansion is more of the elemental planes. If the giant magma dudes are the first threat, the Primal dragons probably follow and they are deeply linked to the elements. Could be an opportunity to see more of those places.
    Kind of my thoughts. DF seems to very much pick up where BfA left off and there was a whole unexplored arc on how the elemental planes became highly unstable after the events of Legion.

  17. #53297
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    Drac'thur will eventually be able to play other classes, and other races will eventually be able to be evokers
    The former is suggested, the latter is potentially the exact opposite of what they were explicitly saying.

  18. #53298
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    As long as the visage can be any race, evoker can stay unique to dracthyr
    Pretty much this, let people go Drakthyr and choose their visage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    Drac'thur will eventually be able to play other classes, and other races will eventually be able to be evokers
    Uh, that literally says no other race will be able to play an Evoker.

    I highly doubt you'll see Dracthyr be other classes, but we'll see what happens.

  20. #53300
    Quote Originally Posted by Malorne the White Stag View Post
    That literally says it's exceedingly unlikely for evokers to be other races. Other classes for dracthyr sound cool though and I like the little tidbit they learn from other races down the line
    The thing is, they are already considering letting dracthyr fight in visage form. If they can fight in visage form then the evoker's tie to the unique physiology of the dracthyr (that name is stupid) is already broken.

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