Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[huth]

From the Fanbyte interview:

As you level up, there is a schedule that we have laid out on our end of which type of point you are going to get at which level. I'm going to make up numbers here but at level 37, you might get a Druid points, at level 38, get a Resto point, at 39 and 40 Druid points and 41 and 42 Resto points.

So, apparently, we're not necessarily going to get them alternating every level. Given the setup, i'd expect Class to be more frontloaded while spec is more backloaded (since class tree mostly covers your toolkit that you kinda need)

[Ersula]

Sounds like a deal to me.

If we do get Nightfallen, I hope we get an unexpected class choice: Perhaps some of the Blood Knights were raised to undeath (paladins) or we borrow some of the stoneborne magic to give the venthyr's brothers-in-vampirsm Druid abilities: Gorgon bear forms, Tombstone ancients, Bat flight forms; The environment of Revendreth seemed ripe to give us a new form of Druidism.

[Chickat]

I wouldn't be so certain. If Ion is saying that something will probably happen on WEEK ONE, and we're talking about the lawyer here, it probably will.

They will take their time to add classes for Dracthyr because they can use lore as an excuse, but it will 99% happen.

Ion also said they might add other races to demon hunter.

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From the Fanbyte interview:


So, apparently, we're not necessarily going to get them alternating every level. Given the setup, i'd expect Class to be more frontloaded while spec is more backloaded (since class tree mostly covers your toolkit that you kinda need)

Does make sense.

[huth]

On an somewhat unrelated note, i'm getting the feeling whoever transcripted the Buffed.de interview was drunk.

Welcome to the magical planet of Azur Off!

[Ersula]

Dude, what are you fucking talking about. They have said multiple times you can, even comparing it to the Worgen form directly. Why is literally every other post you make on these subjects just blatant lies and misinformation?

They said it's like Worgen form in that you're forced into it while in combat.

They didn't say its like Worgen from so you can toggle in & out of it at will because that would be pure chaos for how big they are, and have photographic proof of.

[Revamp Man]

I think I’m very jaded because fuck me is all the Information coming out sounding more and more awesome

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They said it's like Worgen form in that you're forced into it while in combat.

They didn't say its like Worgen from so you can toggle in & out of it at will because that would be pure chaos for how big they are, and have photographic proof of.

What about when they were describing being able to use it for dragon riding

[elderu]

10,000 years ago, the Dragon Isles were not part of the main continent? I say this because the trailer shows how they observe the Legion invasion on the horizon.
It also caught my attention that their immediate action was to hide the dragon isles, so I guess there is something essential to hide it immediately from the Legion...

A friend of mine had the same conclusion but we quickly realized there the key context is probably when Alexstrasza says

"The World has been sundered..." past tense.

So seemingly the Dragon Isles have endured the events of The Sundering at this time and the Cinematic is showing the more immediate response to these events.

But I do find it odd how this might not line up with the Dragon Soul/Well of Eternity events.

The cinematic shows the shadows of Dragons flying over head to "go to it's aid."(the world), and if I'm not mistaken, didn't we already see ingame the Dragon Soul events during Hour of Twilight 4.3?

Maybe The Sundering is happening in stages and the actual area of Zin'Azshari is still intact at the time of the cinematic, just engulfed in a felstorm?

Not like the ingame representation was all that grand compared to the revisions in Chronicles.

[huth]

A friend of mine had the same conclusion but we quickly realized there the key context is probably when Alexstrasza says


So seemingly the Dragon Isles have endured the events of the Well of Eternity and the Cinematic is showing the more immediate response to these events.


But I do find it odd how this might not line up with the Dragon Soul/Well of Eternity events.

The cinematic shows the shadows of Dragons flying over head to "go to it's aid."(the world), and if I'm not mistaken, didn't we already see ingame the Dragon Soul events during Hour of Twilight 4.3?

Maybe The Sundering is happening in stages and the actual area of Zin'Azshari is still intact at the time of the cinematic, just engulfed in a felstorm?

Not like the ingame representation was all that grand compared to the revisions in Chronicles.

There's also the possibility that the narration happened a bit after the events shown, or even that Alexstrasza speaking is the present day one.

That aside, even if it was after the Sundering, that doesn't mean they were part of it before that. It's the Dragon Isles, not the Dragon Mountains, after all.

[elderu]

There's also the possibility that the narration happened a bit after the events shown, or even that Alexstrasza speaking is the present day one.
That aside, even if it was after the Sundering, that doesn't mean they were part of it before that. It's the Dragon Isles, not the Dragon Mountains, after all.

Probably fair to say that the quote:

"The world has been sundered. It cries out in pain. We must go to it's aid. We entrust our ancestral home to you, The Watchers. Let the land slumber. Hidden even from our own eyes.
You will feel our return in the waking of the land. Then, you must light the Beacon of Tyrhold, lest the path home be lost to us."

Seems to be straightforwardly a command to The Watchers from Alexstrasza during the time of her departure though, no?
and that's why the end is awkward because I think, who is she talking to?

But I definitely don't rule it out that the Isles could be Isles to begin with though. Could be a neat idea for sure.

[sambubu]

So why did the guy that leaked the photos of Dracthyr say that they would have 2 dps spec and that the healer would heal with fire?

[Varx]

How would you guys feel if dracthyr form remained armorless and without a male / female form, but we had more than one visage option that could freely be swapped somehow.

So like humans, tauren, nelves, gnomes, belves, trolls, etc. All with crazy draconic features.

Would that even it out? I think it's be a good compromise for this lack of armor issue.

[rhorle]

Would that even it out? I think it's be a good compromise for this lack of armor issue.

How is that a compromise? Creating art pieces for Drac'thyr is a whole lot easier then creating visage models for all the different races and their different features (hair, face, etc). "Freely" swapped implies in combat which sort of undermines even having a dragonkin form to begin with.

[Zulggun]

No matter what they add they will be people who will hate it and scream about it.

[Varx]

How is that a compromise? Creating art pieces for Drac'thyr is a whole lot easier then creating visage models for all the different races and their different features (hair, face, etc). "Freely" swapped implies in combat which sort of undermines even having a dragonkin form to begin with.

By swap I mean just the visage you choose to represent.

Combat still remains drac only but at least we can have multiple visages to choose from instead of just male belves or female humans.

[Chickat]

the interview talks about Anduin's fate. I wonder what his own journey means. So he's not with Sylvanas "thank God"

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Wow interesting. So he's saying that the 4 zones of dragon isles are larger than All other continents except northrend.

Bigger than pandaria, broken isles, bfa continents, outlands, draenor. He even said the 4 zones of dragon isles are significantly bigger than the shadowlands zones.

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in an interview, Ion said that Anduin will no longer be king of stormwind forever

He will be back at some point to overthrow evil Turalyon.

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I don't get why everybody is saying we don't have a borrowed power system. We do have and it's called Dragonriding.

They remove one basic feature and turn it into a new feature that's less of the original one - but hey wait, to get better in that, you need to farm and grind stuff.

Peak lazy design.

I don't hate Dragonriding. I think it's a neat idea. But it's the same they did with other features in the past, stripping them away from the players just to hand them back in another fashion as some kind of new feature.

But it isn't used in instanced content so I don't see what your point is.

[Syegfryed]

How would you guys feel if dracthyr form remained armorless and without a male / female form, but we had more than one visage option that could freely be swapped somehow.

So like humans, tauren, nelves, gnomes, belves, trolls, etc. All with crazy draconic features.

Would that even it out? I think it's be a good compromise for this lack of armor issue.

I doesn't even need those crazy draconic shenanigans

Give the base core races as visage and we are set

This way "any race" can be the class.

[Vakir]

the interview talks about Anduin's fate. I wonder what his own journey means. So he's not with Sylvanas "thank God"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ82gxFV...jpg&name=large

Nothing indicates he isn't. I think they're being vague for non-book readers. Plus the book never confirmed it, so they likely read 9.2.5 as a "surprise."

[Sondrelk]

How would you guys feel if dracthyr form remained armorless and without a male / female form, but we had more than one visage option that could freely be swapped somehow.

So like humans, tauren, nelves, gnomes, belves, trolls, etc. All with crazy draconic features.

Would that even it out? I think it's be a good compromise for this lack of armor issue.

Would be a terrible decision, as it would essentially make Dracthyr humanoids whicturn into dragons, rather than full on dragons with a humanoid form for convenience.

Being a dragon is the big selling point. If they remove that then making it its own race is kinda pointless when they could just make it a class that gets extra customization options like DK or DH.

[Chickat]

That's actually a good point. A Jed'hin class would be something similar for Draenei that is Draenei-only because it is something only Draenei are able to do, with the tail, hooves and crests all being used in wrestling.

However I again disagree with the idea that they can't be other classes in the future because there is no lore locking them into NOT branching out into other classes. Until there is lore for that, it's not impossible. Same as how Draenei are every class but not (only) Jed'hin wrestlers.

I do agree it makes no sense for drakthyr to be other classes ATM.


They could easily use narrative to change that. Maybe a certain group of drakthyr lost their connection to the aspects. They are still dragons. But they don't have aspect power. Idk what would make them loss their power but it's a possibility.

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Speaking of lore I am excited to see the novel for this expansion. Hopefully it’s Golden again, loved the Sylvanas book.

I hope it centers around nozdormu. A timey wimey book could be fun.

[Nyel]

No matter what they add they will be people who will hate it and scream about it.

That's definitely true. But Blizzard chose the lazy way yet again. I think that's what upsets people.