1. #53561
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    With this final interview, it is confirmed that Turalyon officially assumes the role of King of Stormwind and High King of the Grand Alliance.

    With Turalyon as King and High King, Alleria Windrunner becomes de-facto Queen of Stormwind and High-Queen of the Grand Alliance.

    The Kingdom of Stormwind and the Grand Alliance are now ruled co-jointly by Alleria Windrunner and Turalyon, with the full support of the House of Nobles; but as is often the case, behind a great man there is a great woman, and so we must ask ourselves who will truly be leading the Alliance.
    Turalyon is the perfect modern day villain. He is your classic Mighty Whitey, who leads an army of alien soldiers with a thick russian accent. And he was Afrasiabi's pet during Legion. I mean, this stuff writes itself. So his and Alleria's days are numbered.

  2. #53562
    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Turalyon is the perfect modern day villain. He is your classic Mighty Whitey, who leads an army of alien soldiers with a thick russian accent. And he was Afrasiabi's pet during Legion. I mean, this stuff writes itself. So his and Alleria's days are numbered.
    Alleria will never die. If she died, the Ren'dorei would be left with only Magister Umbric as major story character.

    There has never been a case before where a playable race only had one major character left.

    All playable races require at least 2 major characters to be represented in the story.

    Neither Alleria nor Umbric will die.

  3. #53563
    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Turalyon is the perfect modern day villain. He is your classic Mighty Whitey, who leads an army of alien soldiers with a thick russian accent. And he was Afrasiabi's pet during Legion. I mean, this stuff writes itself. So his and Alleria's days are numbered.
    Gotta love how the Afrasiabi boogeyman just keeps morphing in people's heads. His pet character was Garrosh supposedly but now is suddenly Turalyon. Funny stuff.

  4. #53564
    Quote Originally Posted by JDBlou View Post
    And behind every great woman is a great drogbar, so we must ask ourselves who will truly be leading the Alliance.
    Obviously Onyxia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Alleria will never die. If she died, the Ren'dorei would be left with only Magister Umbric as major story character.

    There has never been a case before where a playable race only had one major character left.

    All playable races require at least 2 major characters to be represented in the story.

    Neither Alleria nor Umbric will die.
    Who were the two major Darkspear troll characters after Vol'jin died exactly? Rokhan and who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    All playable races require at least 2 major characters to be represented in the story.
    That isn't true at all. When Vol'jin died who were the two major trolls? Alleria or Umbric can easily die if Blizzard wants. Even if your rule of 2 is true they can easily create new lore characters to take their place, right?
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  7. #53567
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...21758835478529

    We are getting a follow up with Sylvanas, and Tyrande is carrying the second ToE somewhere.
    The earlier blurb from yesterday is a really good depiction of why, for a very long time, the devs never seem to be on the same page about what is actually going on in the story: Example, the comments about the sword in Silithus.

    Ion: The Sword is fine. It's good the way it is. Just think of it as a part of the scenery.

    Danuser: The Sword has a greater role in what is to come *w*

    The Audience: ?????

    This is how it feels to engage with the lore; this is why there are so many lore arguments. Maybe for them this is what they consider a normal, engaged fandom but it's not healthy & it's not completely the fault of the fans. So when Ion talks about the future of these characters its like, do you even know? Cause it seems like Ion isn't part of creating the lore at all.

  8. #53568
    Quote Originally Posted by JDBlou View Post
    Who were the two major Darkspear troll characters after Vol'jin died exactly? Rokhan and who?
    Vanira and Master Gadrin.

    If anything, Darkspear fans should have been glad that, despite Vol'jin's death, they still had 3 solid characters left to represent them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Turalyon is the perfect modern day villain. He is your classic Mighty Whitey, who leads an army of alien soldiers with a thick russian accent. And he was Afrasiabi's pet during Legion. I mean, this stuff writes itself. So his and Alleria's days are numbered.
    I dread not but it is aiming that in that general direction. I could be surprised by Blizz but I think if the Light ever makes a move Turalyon will open the gates willingly.


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  10. #53570
    What you people don't realize is that the Windrunners are not dying, ever.

    Sylvanas didn't survive because she's popular, that's BS and nothing more, because Arthas and Garrosh were also popular and they got erased from existence.

    Sylvanas survived because Danuser likes the Windrunners and the story of this ancient elven family. He was the one who wrote most of the Hunter order hall featuring Dark Rangers (Sylvanas clones) and Vereesa Windrunner and also wrote the questline for Thas'dorah, Alleria's bow, featuring both Vereesa and Sylvanas. He also wrote the Windrunner Reunion comic leading up to BfA.

    Neither Alleria nor Vereesa will EVER die!

  11. #53571
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    The earlier blurb from yesterday is a really good depiction of why, for a very long time, the devs never seem to be on the same page about what is actually going on in the story: Example, the comments about the sword in Silithus.

    Ion: The Sword is fine. It's good the way it is. Just think of it as a part of the scenery.

    Danuser: The Sword has a greater role in what is to come *w*

    The Audience: ?????

    This is how it feels to engage with the lore; this is why there are so many lore arguments. Maybe for them this is what they consider a normal, engaged fandom but it's not healthy & it's not completely the fault of the fans. So when Ion talks about the future of these characters its like, do you even know? Cause it seems like Ion isn't part of creating the lore at all.

    These two statements aren’t that contradictory and address different things.

    Ions quote says the sword is no longer a danger to Azeroth.

    Danusers is about whether the sword has a role to play in the story eventually.

  12. #53572
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Vanira and Master Gadrin.

    If anything, Darkspear fans should have been glad that, despite Vol'jin's death, they still had 3 solid characters left to represent them.
    Vanira has 10 lines in the entire game, of which 5 are in her Hyjal cameo. Captain Fareeya, a non-character par excellence, has more lines within just one quest of the Lightforged allied race recruitment scenario. I'm fairly sure she also has more than her and Gadrin combined, but that remains to be seen.

    As for the sword, that whole argument is retarded, Ion is clearly joking. His very next sentence starts with "But no".
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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  13. #53573
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Vanira has 10 lines in the entire game, of which 5 are in her Hyjal cameo. Captain Fareeya, a non-character par excellence, has more lines within just one quest of the Lightforged allied race recruitment scenario. I'm fairly sure she also has more than her and Gadrin combined, but that remains to be seen.

    As for the sword, that whole argument is retarded, Ion is clearly joking. His very next sentence starts with "But no".
    She was literally Vol'jin's second-in-command during the reclamation of the Echo Isles and the ensuing years of the Cataclysm. She fought alongside Vol'jin against the Sea witch to save the Echo Isles. How can you downplay her importance and contribution to the Darkspear people?

  14. #53574
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    She was literally Vol'jin's second-in-command during the reclamation of the Echo Isles and the ensuing years of the Cataclysm. She fought alongside Vol'jin against the Sea witch to save the Echo Isles. How can you downplay her importance and contribution to the Darkspear people?
    I mean, you aren't wrong, the Darkspear bench is so shallow and their net contribution so low that she's still like their number 4 character behind Master Gadrin. It's just that that doesn't count for much when the entire non-Vol'jin roster of the race is mogged in screentime and characterization by T'paartos.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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  15. #53575
    Quote Originally Posted by wowrefugee View Post
    These two statements aren’t that contradictory and address different things.

    Ions quote says the sword is no longer a danger to Azeroth.

    Danusers is about whether the sword has a role to play in the story eventually.
    They might not be contradictory on the most literal level, but in terms of two people talking about a fictional story, to a person asking about that story? They're complete contradictions. This is the gist of what they said when asked about the sword:

    Ion: Don't worry about the sword.

    Danuser: Worry about the sword!

    I'm constantly bewildered why Blizzard has these people engage directly with the audience. They have zero social skills. That complete with the corporate marketing team behind the scenes dictating how they make these announcements its the worst of both worlds: Impersonal & Corporate while also being awkward & confusing.

  16. #53576
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    What you people don't realize is that the Windrunners are not dying, ever.

    Sylvanas didn't survive because she's popular, that's BS and nothing more, because Arthas and Garrosh were also popular and they got erased from existence.

    Sylvanas survived because Danuser likes the Windrunners and the story of this ancient elven family. He was the one who wrote most of the Hunter order hall featuring Dark Rangers (Sylvanas clones) and Vereesa Windrunner and also wrote the questline for Thas'dorah, Alleria's bow, featuring both Vereesa and Sylvanas. He also wrote the Windrunner Reunion comic leading up to BfA.

    Neither Alleria nor Vereesa will EVER die!
    The stories of Alleria and Turalyon are intertwined. They are basically like yin and yang, even Alleria says it herself. There is no shadow without light. So if one dies, the other will follow.

  17. #53577
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    They might not be contradictory on the most literal level, but in terms of two people talking about a fictional story
    They aren't contradictory either. They're simply talking about different things.

    Danuser said it will be important in the future.

    Ion said it isn't important right now.

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  19. #53579
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    They aren't contradictory either. They're simply talking about different things.

    Danuser said it will be important in the future.

    Ion said it isn't important right now.
    That's not what they said. Ion's comments are explicitly "It's not important."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Ion: Don't worry about the sword. Danuser: Worry about the sword!
    Except that isn't a fair summary of their comments. Danuser is saying worry about the sword later. It is amazing how people look for every little thing to twist to justify their hate, dislike, or whatever it really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    That's not what they said. Ion's comments are explicitly "It's not important."
    Because it isn't important. That is how things always go with WoW. It isn't important until it is.
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